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So, I saw Revelations last night. I thought it was well done, and watchable, kind of Stephen King/Disaster filmish, borrowed from everything that's gone before, and a little by the numbers.

It kind of got me thinking though, from a moral code standpoint, you can kind of pidgeon hole, what we're calling post-modern into sub-categories.

Nihilistic - Nothing really matters

Humanistic - Rationalized morality (greatest good for the greatest number, and that sort of thing) laid over top, and sometimes conflicting with traditional religious and secular moral codes.

Centrist - No real unifying moral code but morality borrowed from anywhere when convenient.

Mercenary - Anything is good, if it allows you to sway audience opinion to believe your buried agenda. (You see it a lot in commercials)
 
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Like your assessment of moral codes. Seems to make sense to me.

I liked Revelations as well. A little hokey. No real irony. Or at least, if there is, it's pretty well disguised. I wonder, is something that seems slightly hokey, campy like this in fact "superhip"? Is that the case here? I think the show's creators are in fact trying to be deadly serious.

Loved the cast. Bill Pullman, great. Though it's hard to take him seriously in dramas sometimes. He's so good at playing dumb guys. Natascha McElhone, great. John Rhys-Davies, brilliant. Hope he's alright, seems very thin. Satanist guy was good too. Music was fun, very melodramatic. Kind of like something you'd hear in a Hitchcock film.

Love shows that try to address religion, science, purpose"”take these issues seriously.

Another thing. Like the portrayal of McElhone's character. I think TV often portrays nuns, religious as blissfull hicks, cut off from the world. I think Buffy did that a lot. McElhone's character reminded me of some of the nuns I knew growing up, going to Catholic school. Very smart, savvy, curious about the world.
 
Yeah. John Rhys-Davies is always brilliant, and I imagine he can do those professor parts by heart now. I hadn't noticed, but you're right. He does look sick. Bummer.

I was more concentrating on the nun. I thought it was Jane Seymour, and I was thinking, "Gee. Jane Seymour doesn't look very good". 😀
 
Gavin Polone was on Michael Medved's radio show yesterday. He apparently produces Curb Your Enthusiasm, Gilmore Girls and Revelations. Interesting combo. There was a Catholic calling in saying the show was insulting, not an accurate portrayal of Catholic doctrine. And a Baptist saying it was just a cynical cash-in. It probably will alienate some religious folks.

I think Buffy avoided much scrutiny because it seemed so casual, dismissive of traditional religion, people just ignored that aspect.

I like that Revelations may get some people stirred up, thinking about religious, moral issues who might not otherwise. Or not. At any rate, it'll probably be at least as entertaining as The Day After Tomorrow.
 
Youthful seekers try to find...


"One study, released Wednesday, is the most comprehensive ever done on the subject. Researchers from the Higher Education Research Institute at UCLA base their conclusions on survey responses from 112,232 freshmen at 236 diverse colleges and universities.

A complex picture emerges. On the one hand, students show a hearty interest in spiritual matters: 79% say they believe in God, 69% say they pray, and 76% say they are searching for purpose or meaning.

On the other hand, respondents confided some uncertainty and discomfort. Fewer than half reported feeling "secure" in their current views on spiritual and religious matters. And students strongly committed to doing acts of charity and living by an ethic of caring showed higher levels of psychological distress than their less socially concerned peers.

Researchers hope they've hit upon potentially useful insights for anyone who works with college students.

"They are searching for answers to big questions: What is the meaning of life? What is my purpose in life? What will happen to me? Will I leave my mark in this world?" says Helen Astin, co-principal investigator of the study with her husband, Alexander Astin. "No one, including ourselves, ever thought of that as being an important aspect of student life. I hope we'll get to know the students better and look at them in a more holistic way.""



"...On campus, individuals are finding others to probe the depths with them. At Marquette University, for instance, about 2,000 of the 7,500 Catholics on campus go to Mass regularly on Sunday, and many more are involved in Catholic activism, says the Rev. William Prospero, director of campus ministry.

At the University of Oregon, 300 students attend Friday night Bible study at Onyx House, a ministry of the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel; five years ago, 100 did.

"I've never met an atheist on the campus of the University of Oregon," said pastor A.J. Swoboda. "I've only met people believing in some form of a higher power, and they might not know what that higher power is."

College is often a place to test old beliefs and try out new ones."


"...For some students, the individualized approach hasn't led to greater religious or spiritual involvement. Adam Kemp, a 22-year-old senior at Texas A&M, co-leads the Agnostic and Atheist Student Group and describes himself as "not spiritual at all." Still, the topics discussed at the group's weekly meetings sound a lot like those considered by spiritual groups elsewhere: morality, death, sex, love and euthanasia, to name a few.

"There really isn't a purpose in life, but it's more that we define our purpose," Kemp says. "Because we're alive and we enjoy being alive, that's our purpose "” to live as long as we can and as happily as we can, and hopefully make other people feel the same way.""


http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2005-04-14-youthful-seekers_x.htm
 
goldenboy said:
I think Buffy avoided much scrutiny because it seemed so casual, dismissive of traditional religion, people just ignored that aspect.

I think I have to disagree on this one point. My impression was Buffy took a lot of flack from the religious right. I'm almost positive it was high on the list of some religious right, censor, ban or boycott lists.

I know some religious types were not happy with the introduction of Caleb, and quite vocal about it.
 
Well, I can imagine Caleb sticking in people's craw. And many Christians do dislike Buffy, Harry Potter, you're right. I guess maybe I'm just thinking that the whole vamp/Christian legend, lore is so ingrained in Western Culture, people don't even think about it too much. I don't remember people, before Caleb, getting too upset about the portrayal of Catholics/Christians in Sunnydale. I just didn't hear it. The main complaints I recall are that it was pagan, slightly nihilistic, agnostic. Not explicitly anti-Christian or anti-Catholic.

The criticisms of Revelations seem more specific because the show is more specific.

But maybe you're right about the Buffy backlash. I don't discuss the show enough with folks (outside this board) to know.

Now I need to find out if there's a Catholic consensis out there about Buffy...




Whoa. Found something interesting. A massive piece drawing comparisons between Buffy and her Scoobs and The Catholic idea of the Church as a 'family" united by a common morality, belief system. The Scoobs as the "Christian Family"....


"In the whole, the show's depiction of Christianity is no less--and in some cases considerably more--harsh than its depiction of any other social institution.  What I do want to suggest is that the show is susceptible to an interpretation in terms of Christian faith and the domestic church.  Critics of Buffy the Vampire Slayer have amply shown how the supernatural creatures and situations of the show often serve as metaphors for the dilemmas of growing up, of psychological development, and of ordinary life.[25]  However, by appealing to the supernatural to develop these themes, the show can also provide a model or metaphor for the transformation of ordinary social realities--like the family--in the light of the transcendent.  Hence, it can be constructively re-visioned as an intriguing and possibly influential conversation partner for the U.S. bishops and other North American Catholics who wish speak about the family as domestic church."



Buffy the Vampire Slayer and the Domestic Church:
Revisioning Family and the Common Good

http://www.slayage.tv/essays/slayage6/Locklin.htm





I'm sorry, posting so much stuff today....

But this one is interesting as well. A conservative Christian woman criticising Buffy, and Joss for being a mushy, guilty feminist. And she's claiming that Joss's 'verse is a closed system too in a way, like Christianity....


"Tellingly, one of the scenes that Christians most frequently cite to show the role of redemption on Buffy "” the scene where Xander's love stops a grieving Willow from destroying the world and turns her good again "” was ripped off from a rather well-known book (A Wrinkle in Time) by a Christian, Madeleine L'Engle.

Speaking of which, it's instructive to look at another Christian fantasy writer whose work has enjoyed massive popularity. Now, neither Joss Whedon nor J.R.R. Tolkien shows God playing an overt role. But there's a crucial difference: There is a God in Tolkien's world. The references in The Lord of the Rings are subtle, but they're unmistakably there, especially for readers of The Silmarillion, in which his mythology is more fully explained. (I haven't read it, but for a recent research paper, I did enough poking through Tolkien's letters and biographies to get the idea.) Unlike with Buffy, there is a First Good who is stronger than what Whedon calls the "First Evil."

Furthermore, Tolkien's theme is that mortals must not seek power for themselves, for it brings only corruption. The divergence between Buffy's mythology and Christian theology can be summed up in one of Buffy's lines from the last season, spoken to a group of slayers-in-training: "There is only one thing on this Earth more powerful than evil, and that's us." And that's because "” um, well "” that would be because . . . well, they have lots of power! And they're against evil! So, naturally, that combination means they'll be able to defeat evil.

Not so for Tolkien. His characters, with all their nobility and goodness of heart "” and the considerable powers that some of them possess "” are not strong enough to defeat evil, not on their own. I don't want to give too much away for those who don't yet know the ending of The Lord of the Rings, but I'll say this much: While certain characters' wise and merciful decisions contribute to the outcome, the final victory is won by no one but the unseen, benevolent power that rules Tolkien's world, intervening with a miracle when all seems lost. Because of the nature of power, and the fact that only One is good enough to be fully trusted with it, the story could turn out no other way.

Tolkien, unlike Whedon, was criticized for not portraying his evil characters clearly enough. That was a conscious decision on his part; he believed that wallowing in depictions of evil did far more harm than good. But he certainly had a handle on the other side of the equation. He was able to share a realistic, compelling vision of goodness because he actually believed in it, and in this, his work succeeded where Buffy failed.

It's not that atheists can't tell a good story, or that Joss Whedon isn't a talented writer of fantasy. The problem is that his closed universe "” closed, at least, to the idea of a loving God "” didn't give him enough to work with. Fantasy has to be grounded in reality to be completely convincing, and Whedon's was not. (Even some of his most ardent fans have been complaining about inconsistencies in the show for the past two or three seasons.) Or to put it another way, "if therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!" (Matt. 6:23, NKJV) You can have all the talent in the world, but without a clear understanding of the nature of reality, at best all you've got is a pop-culture phenomenon that ultimately trivializes the great themes it tries to deal with.

For some, that's enough. For Christians, it shouldn't be."

http://www.boundless.org/2002_2003/features/a0000763.html
 
I remembered this old petition. I had to look it up. It's small, unimportant, and dumb, of course, yet fun. I thought you might get a kick out of it. I remember I did -

To: Joss Whedon and the writers and producers of Mutant Enemy Productions and the Executives of the WB and UPN

Anyone who has watched "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" or its spin-off "Angel" will tell you what a well written and well directed television show it is with very high production value and talented actors. However after the events of September, 11, America has been thrown into the realm of prophecy fore Jesus Christ, king of kings and son of God, will soon walk the Earth again. Because of this we ,who have created this petition, believe that "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and its spin-off "Angel" must be cancelled immediately or it will draw the wrath of Jesus upon us with the show's endorsement of the use of magic and its philosophy of demon worship. From the very depths of our hearts and souls, we beg the staff of Mutant Enemy Productions and the WB and UPN networks to stop the show for the sake of posterity before our Lord scorches the land with plagues like the Land of Egypt.

Sincerely;

:banana: :evillol: :winking11
God Hates Buffy Petition
 
LOL! That seems like something the South Park guys would come up with...

I love that there's so much expression, controversy, religion, secularism in America. There's such a free market of ideas, and no "official", state sponsored religion"”actually makes people more active in seeking out "truth", spirituality.

Irony died for a couple of weeks after 9/11, then it started to claw its way back again. I loved the way The Onion managed to express outrage and despair right after 9/11. All the while, it maintained its irony"”used it as a scathing attack on the terrorists.

I can understand that woman's critique (boundless.org). I can see why, from a traditional Christian perspective, she'd see the 'verse as limited and potentially spiritually "dangerous". Not because it's "pagan" or "demonic", but because it's in effect, "agnostic", humanist, like you mentioned.

And, maybe you'll disagree, but I think Joss's 'verse is kinda stacked against goodness. There seems to be a known, apparently absolute evil (the First), but no known absolute goodness in the 'verse. Known goodness is only in the heart of the individual, not outside us, like God. And because of that, the "evil" in the verse seems slightly banal, relativistic to me.

The only "miracle" in the 'verse I can recall was the snow falling after The First failed to corrupt Angel. And that's obviously left to the viewer to decide. Well, there was also the time Angel was able to save his detective friend when she tried to kill herself"”entered with no invite. Perhaps caused by a Power.

The Powers, gods in the 'verse can cause "miracles", but they're petty, selfish like ancient pagan gods.

Joss strikes me as an atheist who at least has a longing, desire for belief. His show seems alternately bitter, ironic and deeply spiritual, "Christian".

I can see why some might view Buffy as "dangerous" for some committed Christians. But it's inspiring, motivating for the spiritually conflicted, like me.
 
I know.

There was a recent thread on this board where the poster was asking for the image from the series that best summed up the whole of Buffy.

Someone responded with the image from the end of Bring on the Night, where Buffy is battered an bruised yet with a look of determination on her face. It's the part where she says -

There is only one thing on this earth more powerful than evil, and that's us. Any questions?

I get that you know. I mean I get that that image sums up the central message of the series if there is one.

Buffy is saying we have to take the responsibility on ourselves to battle what feels wrong.

I mean you can still have the odd miracle, and the suggestion that maybe a larger force is watching, but ultimately it's our own lonely little fight.
 
Saw something kinda cute at the bookstore today. Don't know if it's any good, but...


Pocket Guide To The Apocalypse: The Official Field Manual For The End Of The World

"¦ takes a humorous look at our culture's ongoing love affair with the "End Times." A handful of anecdotes, acknowledgements of the phenomenon in pop culture and insights from the author precede chapters like: "Apocalyptionary: A Glossary of the End Times," "Fun with Eschatology" and "Armageddon Grab-Bag." Don't get left behind on this end-times extravaganza!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...f=sr_1_1/102-1715903-3000111?v=glance&s=books



"”it actually looks like a real field guide, like something an ornithologist would carry around.
 
Man, that slayage site has some good stuff. Just found a piece suggesting that Joss's 'verse may be effectively "Thomist", as in St Thomas Aquinas.

It really does seem like Joss is an atheist who wants to be a Christian. Even as he demonstrates contempt, ambivalence about Christianity. He walks the line. The shows seem to exhibit philosophically Christian ideas about the nature of evil, sin. This article has so many interesting points about seasons 6, 7. Just a couple....


"...the code of ethics underpinning the Buffyverse is ultimately eudaimonistic. [19] This is another convergence with Thomism, via Greek philosophy. In eudaimonism, humans are figured as seeking happiness, while happiness is understood as the attainment of those things that are genuinely good for oneself, as opposed to those things that only seem to be good. Thus, along with eudaimonism comes a theory of human nature and of the fulfillment of one's nature. For Aquinas we are ordered ultimately to God. While we are free to make various choices about the means of attaining the final end, we are not free with respect to the end itself. Humans naturally and necessarily seek for their happiness. [20] Ultimately, happiness is the attainment of the Perfect Good, i.e. the beatific vision (ST 1-2.5.2: II.609). An implication of this view is that the will is ordered to the good and "can tend to nothing except under the aspect of good" (ST 1.82.3: 1.414).  For Aquinas, sin results not because we choose evil as evil, because that is impossible, but rather because we choose a good relative to us in place of a greater good. Such a choice is not a mere mistake, due to lack of information or the like, but rather an irrational failure to obey the dictates of one's own conscience as to the ordering of goods. Such a choice is often incredibly damaging and horrific. But it remains that one chooses under an aspect of good."

"...[13] Willow is the bigger bad of the season, and while much has been said about her arc being a metaphor for addiction, her decision structure is the same. Magic becomes an easy means to attain goods that while genuine, must be fully understood in their contexts. To avoid the risk of losing Tara by letting her see her deep insecurities, an event which must occur if they are to establish the greater good of genuine intimacy, she uses forgetting spells with variously disastrous effects. This can be understood in Thomistic terms as choosing the more immediate, lesser good (a peaceful life with Tara now) over the more remote, greater good (a genuine intimacy with her). Upon Tara's death Willow's inability to handle her painful emotions, resultant in part from a lack of practice, is partly what prompts her to seek the immediate satisfaction of action. Squaring off with Giles she hijacks the power loaned him by the coven. But as it contains "the true essence of magic" (the communicativeness and interconnectedness of Being), she gets more than she bargained for when she is confronted with the reality of others' pain."



And here's something that could slightly challenge that boundless.org woman's critique of The First Evil....

As the First in the guise of the Master tells Spike in the opening episode, we're going "Right back to the beginning. Not the Bang. Not the Word. The true beginning" ("Lessons").  By specifically discounting the Bang and the Word as heralding the "true beginning," I think the First is claiming primordiality, perhaps even priority. At first it seems like maybe things are setting up for some sort of Manichean model, or, more interestingly, a view of evil as the ground of reality. But what we get is a situation where the First's story cannot be the whole story of the First. We get, appropriately enough, a half-truth. And we get a teller--an entity that yearns to communicate. The power of the First, while formidable, is also always parasitic. Giles instructs, "it only works through those it manipulates" ("Bring on the Night," 7.10) and this entails the prior existence of creatures to be manipulated. While "it has eternities to act, endless resources," it could not have been the one to have created those resources, for it remains unable to take corporeal form except "in the guise of someone who's passed away" ("Bring on the Night," 7010)."

http://www.slayage.tv/essays/slayage16/Curry.htm


"”So, The First seems to lie about its own primacy. This implies something comes before The First. Yet Whedon never explicitly refers to God. Left up to the viewer to explore...Joss is right on the precipice it seems to me. If his shows actually reflect some personal existential struggle on his part, you'd think he could fall into theism with just a little nudge. But maybe this is all just metaphor to him.





 
 
That's pretty cool.

I always used to look at it in a similar way, but I used to use that other one. What's it called? I think it's Kaballah.

As I recall it goes something like there's two forces En Sof and Sephiroth. One force is the pattern through which all energy is filtered that forms the physical universe. The other is the force that breaks the pattern down, and returns it to it's chaotic state.

A person is naturally predisposed to vibrate at the pattern's frequency, but the entropic force perverts it.

So when Willow is all the time looking for the quick fix, that's what's happening. The natural instinct to seek the good is perverted, and rather than exist at a sympathetic frequency to the pattern it breaks it down, and bad things happen.

I guess the only difference here would be there's no real necessity of having pattern, or chaotic force of entropy pre-date each other. They both just are. The existence of a pattern implies entropy. They're both part of the same construct. If a pattern is created it has to ultimately be returned to the natural chaotic state of non-existence.

Interesting how you can have 2 different disciplines describe the same thing, yet arrive at slightly different conclusions.
 
That makes me think of the basic concept of dualism:

"In theology, dualism can refer to ditheism: the belief that there are two basic principles in the universe, usually personified as deities, that work in polar opposition to each other. For example, one god is good, the other evil; or one god works for order, the other for chaos."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism



"Central to Zoroastrianism is the world's constant struggle between Good and Evil. In the beginning of creation, the Supreme God ("Ahura Mazda") (meaning wise God and characterized by endless light, omniscience, and goodness) opposed Angra Mainyu (or Ahriman) an evil spirit of darkness, violence and death. This cosmic dualism between good and evil stands in marked contrast to the Abrahamic faiths of Judaism, Christianity and Islam in which Satan is in no way the equal of God and is a creation of God.

Mardanfarrokh, a Zoroastrian theologian in the 9th century CE, posited, "If God is perfect in goodness and wisdom, then ignorance and evil cannot come from Him. If they could come from Him, He would not be perfect; and if He were not perfect, He should not be praised as God and perfectly good..."

The resulting cosmic conflict involves the entire universe, including humanity, which is required to choose one of the two paths to follow. Evil, and the Spirit of Evil, will be completely destroyed at the end of time. Dualism will come to an end and Goodness will be all in all. Men are free to choose the path of either spirit. The path of good or righteousness ("Asha") will lead to happiness ("Ushta"), whereas the path of evil will lead to unhappiness, enmity, and war. Therefore, it's strongly encouraged that one chooses Asha. This philosophy is symbolized in one of the religion's main mottos: "Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds."

With the duality of good and evil comes the concepts of Heaven, Hell and the Final Day. After death, a person's soul crosses a bridge ("Chinvato Peretu") on which its good deeds are weighed against its bad deeds. The soul reaches heaven or falls to hell based on the outcome. When evil is finally defeated on the Final Day, the world will be purified by a bath of molten metal and the souls of sinners will be released from hell."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism


Zoroastrianism is interesting. A form of "temporary dualism". Sinners are released from hell after evil is finally vanquished.



"”Just got Joseph Campbell's Occidental Mythology (vol 3), since I'm such an ignoramus in terms of Western mythology, philosophy in general. I know Joss loved the guy. And Campbell was basically a humanist, atheist if I understand correctly. Influenced by Jung, Freud, other 20th century thinkers.

I still haven't seen Firefly, but the show's weird premise is making more sense to me as I discover the books on Joss's coffee table. Another one: "Regeneration Through Violence: The Mythology of the American Frontier, 1600-1860 " by Richard Slotkin. So, his love of Campbell, and this Slotkin guy I think partially explains Joss's love of Western, Eastern philosophy, the American Frontier.
 
I wonder if it might be possible to postulate a kind of patchwork religion called Whedonism.

It would be kind of dualistic, but vague.

In Whedonism there would be the two forces of good and evil. Of the two evil would be the one that manifests itself for direct confrontation here on earth.

It is a force of physical substance, and an agenda that it preaches telling us it is a part of everything. It advices us to accept it or be ultimately destroyed by it. We hear this repeately from manifestations of evil on earth such as dream Joyce, or the Holland Manners manifestation.

Good is a force that may or may not exist both on this plane and others. It may possibly watch over us, and on occasion offer assistance as seen in Amends, but for the most part it is something we must make a conscious choice to set up personally in opposition to the real presence of evil as a result of inborn revulsion to it, or what Whedonism calls conscience. The amount of opposition offered is a matter of personal choice.

The soul is eternal, and it's treatment after this life, appears to depend on the choices made in this life based on our acceptance of evil here, or choice to oppose it.
 
That description seems to fit...

I wonder if Joss devised a theology for the verse before Buffy even started? Or, was he working out his own angsty frustrations through the show?

Joss's "ism" does seem supernaturally lop-sided towards evil, reflecting the anger, frustration of a spiritual searcher. If there is a force for good, it is the more remote force, like you said. In the 'verse, one is (maybe) dropped into physical reality to figure out truth, morality, the possibility of "purpose". Plus, one has all these impediments, not just demons, external evil, but one's own fear, selfishness.

And yet, characters again and again seem to be learning, progressing towards goodness, happiness, as they fail, succeed. Are they approaching the force of good (God) in doing this?

Did Buffy, other Scoobies ever pray, cry out for help to a (hoped for) Ultimate Power?
 
I don't know. Would Osiris apply? On Angel there's the PTB, but that's more like a business arrangement.

In general when someone solicits a higher power on the shows, they want to connect with one that can offer physically manifested proof of results.
 
The Osiris case is interesting. And the Powers. Good point about those. Again, I claim ignorance on the basic issue of Western mythology, but it seems like prayers to pagan gods are different than prayers to God. It's a bartering system. I'll give you the the blood of a virgin if you give us a good harvest. That's sort of what Willow was doing for Buffy. Slashed that deer's throat. Bartering for Buffy. And people still try to barter with God all the time.

Christianity kinda tipped the sacrifice concept on its ear. God becomes the sacrifice. Christians pray for strength, God's intercession. Above all, that God's will be done. I'm not sure any protagonist ever prayed to a modern, monotheistic "God" in the 'verse. Just can't recall...

It seems like Angel had "God" on his mind maybe more than Buffy. So obsessed with redemption. He sensed that some kind of justice existed in the universe. He'd been to hell. Seemed to think he was destined to go back. Who or what might be the source of this just order in the 'verse?

Buffy "felt" there was a point to existance, seems like. She wanted to believe it. Her feelings for those she loved seemed real enough to her. She'd decided on her code, her system of what felt right and just to her by the end of the show.

I'll never completely resolve Joss's 'verse, I know. That's sort of his point I suppose...




...Saw Revelations again. (spoilers)












Seemed like a more boring version of the premiere. Do like the rogue nuns, doing their own wacky thing, looking for the Christ-child. And the demon supermodels were fun.
 
Yeah, I found that second Revelations, boring, irritating, and in a "look at how smart I am" way, kind of dumb.

I mean, everyone's so smug. I really wanted a go at that pompous old nun who made her point, then said, "Aha. Go ahead. Challenge me."

And how many commercials can you get in what's supposed to be an hour-long television episode anyway? That ep was torture to watch. Luckily I had it on tape, and could fast forward.
 
I think Revelations could have been great if it was directed by Chris Carter or someone like that. There's mystery, but it's too stiff, self-important. Even the Stephen King TV adaptations have a sort of nihilistic playfulness"”as they get all serious and important (The Stand).

The director did "The Omen" and it has that same kind of stilted 70's earnestness. It's too late for this kind of style in the wake of ironic 90's TV, film. It just doesn't resonate like it once did. X-Files was deadly serious at times, yet it gave you a little breathing room with some irony an humor. Felt more "real" because of that.

All that being said, I still like the cast. Hope the pace, weirdness factor increases. Still want to give it a chance.

Speaking of ads, I introduced myself to Alias via DVD. Can't even watch on Broadcast"”so many breaks! How long before Broadcast just implodes? Don't know...

Oh, wait...Revelations co-creator David Seltzer produced and wrote The Omen. Richard Donner directed it. Wild.
 
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