Chosen vs NFA - which one was correct?

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Buffy and her merry band risked life and limb to destroy the hellmouth and keep the world from being over-run by the Uber Vamps

Angel and his merry band did get rid of key players but the cost was an invasion of demons that they knew they wouldn't be able to beat back. Yes, they planned on dying but there is no recognition of how many casualties this would cause.

So which one got it right? Just talking about the reasoning behind the decisions and the probable results - not which one was better.
 
I suspect I'll be in the minority here but I actually think they both got it right. Everyone had fled from Sunnydale and there was no sign of the Calvary arriving to help Buffy so she came up with a plan of her own. She discussed it and worked on the details with everyone and then went in with all the strength she had and the element of surprise. It might not have been perfect and I know lots of people on here hated the plan but I think given the rather limited options it was a decent effort with a positive result.

Angels plan simply involved making a stand against a great evil. Again this was discussed with the group, including human representatives, and they went ahead with Angels idea. I don't think the fact the Wolfram and Hart were upset and flooded the streets with demons is a justification for no action. They were working towards The Apocalypse. They had control over all sorts of aspects of human life and they are an enemy of humanity. The fact that they could flood the streets out of anger after being caught by surprise means they could have done much worse if given the time. Angel and his team made a stand for humanity and regardless of the consequences I think it was the correct thing to do.
 
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Without a doubt, Buffy and her team did it right, and for the proper reasons. They were stopping the army of the First Evil from overrunning the world, and they pretty much accomplished that, at least as far as the ubervamps were concerned, and, with Caleb's death, the Bringers were left pretty much leaderless, at least until a new general could be recruited and conditioned (assuming, of course, that Caleb was the commander of all of the Bringer forces) Buffy's team stopped the First Evil from escaping the hellmouth, and, as we saw by the events of Dark Horse's Season 8, there were long lasting results from her actions.

Angel's team, I'm not so sure. What they did to the Senior Partners seemed more of a gesture of defiance, and a most likely suicidal one at that, than any sort of plan aimed at actually stopping any plans that they might have had. Yes, they killed all of the members of the Circle Of The Black Thorn, which apparently served as the Senior Partners' Board Of Directors for the world, but that didn't in any way stop what they were capable of doing, as was illustrated by the army of demons in the alley and the act of sending the entire Los Angeles area and its entire population to hell, as we saw later on IDE's "After The Fall" arc. Angel might have caused the Senior Partners to act prematurely on plans that they already had in place, but they were still able to act.

On the other hand...

Would the fact that the Senior Partners apparently left Earth at the end of IDE's final Spike miniseries count as an eventual victory for Angel's team? If so, then it might be argued that Angel set in motion a chain of events that culminated in what might be interpreted as the success of his plan.

Ultimately, the results of the 2 battles were that Buffy and her team pretty much stopped the First Evil and its plans to take over the world, whereas Angel just manager to stir the Senior Partners up enough to make them send a whole bunch of noncombatants to hell a bit sooner than they had originally planned to do.
 
Part of me was never keen on how Chosen ended as imo basically Buffy could be accused of doing to the potentials what the shadowmen did to the first Slayer and thats force a physical change on them without their consent.

I know she was trying to make the best of a bad situation, but I'm amazed Whedon didn't see the problems some might have with this 'empowerment' spell when he entered in to writing the script.

Luckily the AtS 'Damage' addressed some of the problems that folks like myself had with it.

On the other hand I had no qualms over how AtS ended at all. I know some did, but I love the almost mythic quality it had.
 
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