Darla and Dru question

Not to be mean or anything, but becoming a vamp means dying! And then he got slayed at the end of season 2 aswell!
 
It has always been born out in the show. I was actually going to bring up the Kakistos point as well. Then there is the master, who spews black stuff for 2 minutes while dying.

We also have examples of (age = strength) from the Angel series. We have Darla lifting Angel right off of his feet with one hand around his neck, and holding him at arms length (she is after all 150 years his senior, in earth years anyway). At the same time, Drusilla seems considerably weaker than that, but still strong in her own right.

We also get to see how even Drusilla can cow younger vampires with her stength. She's hardly a warrior-princess, so they couldn't have been cowed by her kung-fu skills. No, I think they were in fear of her terrible strength.

We have other examples, as the two strongest of the master's original servants (The harbringer and Darla) were vampires of great age. We have Dracula, who is able to do all sorts of unusual things, and is also of (relatively) great age.

On the other hand, we then have Spike. He's of significant age, yes, but he also possesses a romantic fire, that when ignited, makes him a more capable fighter than he really should be. Spike without that fire is good for comic relief and constant comedic failure. Spike with that flame ignited and burning strong is a force to be reckoned with.

So I guess it's safe to say that Age isn't everything. It does however, mean a great deal.
 
I'd say experience rather then age. Spike killed two slayers from that you get considerably more experience then from 20 more years on earth as a regular vamps.

Kinda like the Saiya-Jinns on DragonBall Z, the more they fight, the stronger they get.
 
On the other hand, Spike claims it was just a good day. The same kind of thing that gave that peon Mullet-vampire the ability to gut Buffy, and almost end her life. The second slayer he killed was a different story, as he was beginning to come into his strength.

That's not saying he hasn't lived on the edge and learned a great deal. I think he's a hell of a fighter.
 
Well, we always have those hidden motives behind everything. But I love to patch them up as if the story evovled on it's own without a writer behind it all. I know, it's a sad need for denying the truth hehe.
 
Joss's ideas are actually the only thing that matters. He wants them to live, they live. But if he really wasn't the one to decide i think the age and experience also allowed them to live through certain things better than young, unexperienced vamps. You've got to pick up a few things after a couple centuries as a vamp.
 
The whole age of the vampire explanation does not work, because Darla as a vampire is what, 3 days old at the end of Redefinition.

If you watch the scene, is rather fast, they go out directly to the hydrant and put the fire out, it is not that ultra-powerful of them.
 
To me Darla and Dru did not die because they did not get in contact direcetly with the fire, most vampires we see in Buffy get burned right up in the face connecting directly with the fire while Dru and Darla didnt, and the fact that they were fast enough to get to the water.

Its like when sometimes we see a vampire(like Angel for example) step into sunlight, they dont automatically turn into dust, they start smoking then catch on fire and it takes like 1-2 minutes to kill them.
 
Well, if we start looking at writer's motives etc., we might as well begin by acknowledging that they are only actors, and that they didn't burn because it was a stunt. But lets not get into that. That way lies madness and spooky carnival death.

But within the context of the show, taking all events as real, and ignoring the percieved reality behind the scenes, we can find other reasons for things. That's what we're really discussing here, right? The reasons within the context of the Buffyverse
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Lorne, I was waiting for somebody to point that out, and I'm really suprised the discussion got that far before anyone brought that up.
Darla was a newborn.
I think it was because they were quick in getting to the hydrant.

And like somebody else said, stupid vampires die faster.
 
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