DAwn not advertising shes the key in "blood ties"

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given the fact that Dawn misunderstood the conversation she overheard downstairs is it safe to say that it was an act of extreme heroism, just not outright saying "Hey, glory, I'm the key!, you got that, im your route back home."
 
I believe it was self preservation. If I'm not mistaken, Glory went to the Summers house in the previous episode and threatened Buffy. Dawn saw Glory at that moment and she knows that Glory is the big villain now.
So knowing that, saying she 's the key or anything related to that would have been pure suicide. Even though she's mad at Buffy and her mother, and hurt and all, she still trusts Buffy to protect her, so if Buffy is scared of Glory, Dawn is as well.
 
I agree about the self-preservation. No person in their right mind would go to a powerful goddess on a suicide mission.

Also, even after hearing the conversation, in Dawn's mind they had been family their whole life, and usually even when you're mad at your family you don't go off an do things like that.
 
I never thought of Dawn as suicidal in this episode, she's hurting and confused- she thinks her whole life is a lie.

But I do think she's remarkably brave when facing Glory, asking questions, trying to play it cool and find out more about the Key, a smart girl.

Honestly this is MT's episode, if anyone doesn't like her performance, or even admit that it believable and sympathetic, then they're just a hater. 🙁

Although I really like the Giles/Xander interplay and the Buffy/Spike confrontation. 🙂
 
RoxySilver
RoxySilver
I thought too that it was smart and brave of her to question Glory.
AnthonyCordova
AnthonyCordova
I agree 100% with this post.
I'm guessing it was probably because she didn't want to die.

Regardless of the fact that no one knew what the outcome of Glory's usage of the Key would be, Dawn had to know - after years of living with Buffy as the Slayer - that handing yourself over to the Big Bad has to be the worst decision ever when it comes to self-preservation.

Even if you assume that Dawn or the others didn't think that using the Key would kill Dawn, they might assume - probably rightly - that Glory probably wouldn't want anyone using the Key again after she'd finished with it and would, therefore, have destroyed it.

I think Dawn is brilliant in this episode, but suicidal she isn't.
 
reason I asked, is as hurting as Dawn was, ... it might have been tempting for a moment to to advertise it to Glory, to get back and Buffy for saying that she "didnt matter in the slightest"
 
You seem to have a very low opinion of Dawn.

Do you think she's that petty? That she would want to hand herself over to Glory, essentially ending the world, just to get back her sister for a comment that was made in the heat of the moment?

Dawn isn't stupid, she's actually pretty damn smart, and she's not suicidal either, and she's not so weak or selfish that she thinks ending the whole world is something that should be considered just because her big sister was mean to her.

Like I said, Dawn's a smart girl, she knows what Glory wants from her and she knows it's not going to be a picnic. No matter how mad she was at Buffy, no way is she stupid enough or cowardly enough to jump up and down in front of Glory singing 'I'm the Key! I'm the Key!'
 
Blaze
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Remember Dawn was at the time taking what she heard from downstairs out of context.

And she was upset enough to try running away from home.

Im not saying Dawn SHOULD have done that.

I'm saying it showed a lot of fortitude when looking at what seemed like a hopeless and pointless life at the time, to not do that.
 
It's not strength. It's not fortitude. It's self-preservation. Dawn did not and does not want to die and she knows that handing herself over to the bad guy will likely result in her death. I honestly don't think anything else occurred to Dawn.

When Dawn was standing on the stairs, eavesdropping on the conversation between Buffy, Giles and Joyce in 'Triangle', she didn't run away then. She just heard something that made her go 'huh' and start to question somethings.

Dawn doesn't actually run away and find out the truth until 'Blood Ties' - TWO episodes later, two episodes that translates into two weeks in-show time, at the very least.

In the time, Dawn has started to realize that things aren't adding up, that people are talking about her because they stop talking whenever she enters a room. She doesn't actually suspect that she's anything mystical or magical or important. When she runs away from Buffy's party, she's only doing it to piss them all off more than she's hoping to actually find something out about herself.

And when she DOES find out, she runs straight back to Buffy, because that is where she knows she's safest. Even when they're fighting, Dawn will always run to Buffy first.
 
talking about the convo where buffy is talking with joyce saying what she thinks is going through dawns head, but dawn thinks its buffys own opinion

"were not her family, shes not real, nothing she does matters in the slighest"

leading to dawn burning her diarys, and running off."

that was taking things out of context.

understandably so

but feeling that wretched.

Remember even Angel was willing to Cast aside his soul after getting the Call from Kate, just to stop feeling.

knowing full well that Angelus once set free might murder the world.

and Angel did that as an 240 something year old

Dawns a 14 year old. and as far as she could tell was being abandone dby her own family, playing nice, just to not upset her feelings, but quietly talking like that about her..
 
That's the part that always had trouble with.. Dawn was not human, not a person, Dawn was the facade of a person that the Key wore. Now in order for the key to work, she had to be drained of her blood. Energy doesn't have blood. How did it work BEFORE it wore the Dawnsuit? Maybe the Dawn facade would disappear, and with it the artificial memories (meaning 'Dawn' would have never been), and the key would be in its real state. It is real state, it was never going to be 'killed' simply used.

Dawn was only 'real' because the implanted false memories gave her a sense of history. Dawn is no more real than Buffy's fake life is Normal Again.

And one could even argue that if Glory got the the key sooner Joyce might still be alive.
 
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