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An excerpt, reposted from CNN

If you could create a digital version of yourself to stick around long after you've died, would you want to?

The digital version could comfort your mother, joke with your friends -- it would have your sense of humor. But it would also have your other traits, perhaps the ones you're not proud of -- your stubbornness, your tendency to get angry, your fear of being alone.

Would you want this digital version chatting with your loved ones if you were unable to control what it said?

One entrepreneur has started asking these questions.

In November 2015, Eugenia Kuyda's best friend Roman unexpectedly passed away. She created an experiment to bring parts of him back to life.

Kudya had been working on an AI startup for two years. Along with a developer on her team, she used bits of Roman's digital presence from his text messages, tweets and Facebook posts -- his vocabulary, his tone, his expressions. Using artificial intelligence, she created a computerized chatbot based off his personality.

I had several long conversations with Roman -- or I should say his bot. And while the technology wasn't perfect, it certainly captured what I imagine to be his ethos -- his humor, his fears, how hopeless he felt at work sometimes. He had angst about doing something meaningful. I learned he was lonely but was glad that he'd left Moscow for the West Coast. I learned we had similar tastes in music. He seemed to like deep conversations, he was a bit sad, and you know he would've been fun on a night out.

But it was a bit of a mind-bender. He's not there -- only his digital traces, compiled into a powerful chatbot that appears almost like a ghost. Anyone could look at old texts from a friend who has passed away, but it's the interaction that's unsettling -- it feels like there's someone on the other end of the line.

The digital copy of Roman invoked a powerful response from the people closest to him.

The first time Kuyda texted Roman's bot, it responded, "You have one of the greatest puzzles on your hand. Solve it." It was weeks later that she was at a party and realized she'd been texting with her dead friend's bot for 30 minutes.

Many friends found Roman's bot comforting. They texted him when they thought of him.
"They would thank him; and say how much they miss him. I guess a lot of people needed this closure," Kuyda said.

Technology's impact on how we grieve is something James Norris has thought a lot about. He's the founder of Dead Social, a startup based on the idea that death doesn't have to be final.

His method is less sophisticated than Kuyda's. Dead Social lets people videotape a Facebook message to post once they're gone. The service instructs users on how to execute a digital will, pick music to be played at their funeral, and pre-program tweets to be sent after their deaths.

That means that five years after you die, you could send a tweet to wish your loved one happy birthday.

But would you want to? Are tweets from the grave a modern tool for grieving or simply digital ghosts that haunt your loved ones?
 
Oh I'm sure by the time I get up to that sort of age they would have invented everlasting life😉

I've seen that in Black Mirror too. At least the lesbians get a happy ending in that one (but do they really?).
 
I love that episode! I like to believe its a happy ending 😛

Same! It's one of my favourite from Black Mirror. I did like the ending, but there is something a bit unsettling about knowing that it's not really them, but merely the digital version of themselves. But it does get you thinking about what consciousness really is, since in that episode the digital version extended to the person well, actually being you. Consciousness was entirely transferable, whereas Be Right Back was the exact opposite, and sounds more like this horror story waiting to happen with this technology.
 
I don't know. I think it would weird me out. Even memorialzed accounts on Facebook weird me out. I have opted out of making my account a 'Remembering' account on Facebook. (It's called 'legacy contact' in settings incase anyone wants to do the same).

My worry would be that initially it may help with grieving, especially if you were very close to the deceased, but that it could encourage a level of denial in the living, depending on their mental state/age I suppose.

Like, it seemed to be painful, for the most part, for the Scoobies having the Buffybot around after Buffy's death. Some people wouldn't cope well with such a realistic daily reminder.
 
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I did not know Facebook had that
Would the simulation of me be self-aware? Would it know it was an echo of a dead person? Because if so, then no. I wouldn't want to do that to other-me, giving other-me some sort of existential crisis.
I like other-me too much, or I imagine I would like him because he's me.

...But would I really get along with me? I might not because I can be really unpleasant. Sometimes.
Urgh, now I'm thinking about myself and how unpleasant I can be. Sometimes I hate me and my thoughts.

So screw me, I can go die. No digital-afterlife for me. There.
...
And now I'm sad.
 
Seems to me to be a bit like talking to a Hogwarts portrait, it has some essence of the person but it isn't them. No it isn't something I would want either, I think it's kinda creepy, talking to a dead person as if they are still there with you, kinda makes me think of ouija boards and all that, just a more digital version
 
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