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FahrbotDrusilla
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nope, he was Angel in china when Spike said he'd let him have the next one.
as far as i'm aware, there has never been any reference in either show to suggest Angelus killed a slayer. so the answer to your question is no, Angelus never killed a slayer.
but i think there are mentions of him killing a slayer or two in some of the novels based on the shows, but i don't think that these are considered cannon, so they don't count.
but i think there are mentions of him killing a slayer or two in some of the novels based on the shows, but i don't think that these are considered cannon, so they don't count.
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Hero
yeah ive heard about that too
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Allycat
Guest
Some argue that because it has never been explicitly mentioned on the show that he hasn't killed any, he may still have done so... but personally, I think that's BS. Buffy was so explicitly warned against Spike, because he had killed Slayers before in s2, that if the same were true for Angel, she would have no doubt been told.
Black Eye Guy
Yeah it's too big a deal not to be mentioned!
postmortem
Love is a mental illness
It was never explicitely mentioned that Angelus killed a slayer and although we cannot nessecarily assume from that fact that he never did, I think its very unlikely because it was no respectable aim for Angelus:
ANGELUS: A real kill. A good kill. It takes pure artistry. Without that, we're just animals. (Fool For Love)
Angelus hated the pure fight. He considered himself an aristocrat amongst vampires and felt that he had to raise above the animal status by being especially cunning, planning and witty. Hunting and killing only for feeding or for fame didn't fullfill his very dark desires, he also had no sense for the kind of brawls Spike was so fond of. He despised this kind of behaviour. We see Angelus fight and he is very able to hold his own, a strong and determined foe if he needs to, but he doesn't deliberately seek out H2H fights, because he thinks it's degrading.
Angelus just had very different aims. As a vampire he knew that he was physically superior to his prey and as such didn't have much to fear from the ordinary man, but he had to demonstrate that he was intellectually superior too. This may go back to his inferiority complex he had back when he was Liam, where he felt he coudn't fullfill his fathers expectations. So I think he didn't see much gain in killing a slayer, except he could make and extraordinary mind game out of it, like with Buffy 🙂
ANGELUS: A real kill. A good kill. It takes pure artistry. Without that, we're just animals. (Fool For Love)
Angelus hated the pure fight. He considered himself an aristocrat amongst vampires and felt that he had to raise above the animal status by being especially cunning, planning and witty. Hunting and killing only for feeding or for fame didn't fullfill his very dark desires, he also had no sense for the kind of brawls Spike was so fond of. He despised this kind of behaviour. We see Angelus fight and he is very able to hold his own, a strong and determined foe if he needs to, but he doesn't deliberately seek out H2H fights, because he thinks it's degrading.
Angelus just had very different aims. As a vampire he knew that he was physically superior to his prey and as such didn't have much to fear from the ordinary man, but he had to demonstrate that he was intellectually superior too. This may go back to his inferiority complex he had back when he was Liam, where he felt he coudn't fullfill his fathers expectations. So I think he didn't see much gain in killing a slayer, except he could make and extraordinary mind game out of it, like with Buffy 🙂
SpikedBuffy
Love Isn't Brains
I don't remember hearing anything from the show about Angelus killing a slayer. So, based on that, I would say no.
And when you think about it, he always seemed a little 'afraid' of slayers. He told Spike to stay away from them, and that he was nuts when he wanted to go after one. I think this was during "Fool For Love?" that this conversation takes place?
And I think the only reason that he went after Buffy was because of the relationship that he had with her. Otherwise, I think he would've left her alone had he been a non-souled vampire at the time of her calling.
And when you think about it, he always seemed a little 'afraid' of slayers. He told Spike to stay away from them, and that he was nuts when he wanted to go after one. I think this was during "Fool For Love?" that this conversation takes place?
And I think the only reason that he went after Buffy was because of the relationship that he had with her. Otherwise, I think he would've left her alone had he been a non-souled vampire at the time of her calling.
Primal Slayer
Did I Fall Asleep?
I'd like to think that Angelus has killed a Slayer to keep up with his badass vampire gig he had going on, but from the show he hasnt killed any slayers. He liked to play it safe and take on things he knew he could beat.
From my knowledge, I don't think he has. The show mainly focused on the fact that Spike was able to kill a couple of slayers. If Angel had, they possibly would have mentioned it...or maybe not. In Interviews with Joss, he never spoke of this matter...so I think it's unspoken and there is no talk about it, therefore it's clearly hard to decipher the actually answer we're looking for here.
I'm going to go ahead and say, no...only for the reason of there being no record.
I'm going to go ahead and say, no...only for the reason of there being no record.
Wanabee-slayer
Prefect Jess!
No Angel never did kill a slayer. Although I'm gonna ask another question. Do you think Angelus would have killed buffy or sired her?
BillieHunter
~**Hillbilly Hunter**~
Yes, after he had messes with her mind first..he would have at least killed her because he could make a mind game out of it as soem peopel said earlier. He wanted to drive her crazy. He wouldn't just kill her and be done with it. He had to mess with her first, break her down. He had to make a game out of the kill...make it his art, but if he succeeded in breaking her down I think he would have finally killed her.
Carousel Girl8
Townie
Edmund Blackadder
Scooby
Not at all, all that implicates is that Spike is worthy of Joining this gang as he is strong enough,
IF Angelus had killed a Slayer it would have been made a big deal about.
Remember Angel includes Darla and Drusilla in the 'One of Us' yet we know that Dru's first Slayer was Kendra, and his comment predates that.
Angelus never killed a Slayer
Carousel Girl8
Townie
True I forgot about the Dru thing. I always think that Angelus did kill one though I know it may never have been bought up but maybe they thought it didn't need to be as if Spike could kill a slayer surely Angelus could too.
When Angelus tells Spike he is a fool to go looking for a slayer to kill, this could merely have been about jealousy as we know Angel is a very jealous person.
When Angelus tells Spike he is a fool to go looking for a slayer to kill, this could merely have been about jealousy as we know Angel is a very jealous person.
DarkBuffy
Townie
In fact it is quite strange that Angelus has never killed a slayer.. I mean if Spike did (and he was so less cruel than Angelus), how is it possible that Angelus (who was also the most feard vampire) never killed one? I was wondering too
Because Angelus was smart. Like in Heartthrob (I watched it today 🙂) James didnt understand why Angelus and Darla didnt go after Holtz. He was smart enough to stay away and not risk being killed. Same with the Slayer. Any of them.
Spike however wasnt too smart. He was trying to prove himself. Making him fearless. He's do anything to impress Dru and Angelus.
Black Eye Guy
Taking over the World!
A few people have been saying, oh if Spike could kill a slayer Angel could, But you have to remember it's not that he couldn't kill a slayer, it's that he didn't want to, I'm gonna quote Galathea's post, as it sums up Angelus perfect:
before he fell in love with Buffy, all Spike wanted to do was prove that he was one of the most feared vampires...he killed 2 Slayers and wanted to add Buffy to his list. He wanted to be remembered as the vampire who killed many Chosen Ones.
Angelus never thought about the Slayer. he wanted tpo be remembered as the most evil vampire that existed...not by killing Slayers but by torturing and murdering hundred of people. he wanted Giles to remember him as the demon who murdered the love of his life and left her in his bed. the kill wasn't what was important to Angelus...he would kill to feed, but he would rather kill for pleasure.
Angelus never thought about the Slayer. he wanted tpo be remembered as the most evil vampire that existed...not by killing Slayers but by torturing and murdering hundred of people. he wanted Giles to remember him as the demon who murdered the love of his life and left her in his bed. the kill wasn't what was important to Angelus...he would kill to feed, but he would rather kill for pleasure.
Black Eye Guy
exactly!
Faith Rose
Five by Five
I think Anglues, Did because He was the that tell Spike about the Salyer and how if you dies another is called to take her place, so I think he has. That and Giles tell Buffy before Angelues get his soul, he was mosat frared vampire there was, and the watch council has huge amount of info on him right up to he get his soul and stop kill peolpe.