Did Angelus ever kill a slayer?

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He killed Buffy emotionally. That doesn't really count, but he still killed her emotinally. I felt for the Buffster when that happened...but no, I don't think Angelus ever ever killed a Slayer. Besides Buffy emotionally.
 
Darla: (to Angel) While Spike...Spike, was out killing a slayer, you were saving missionaries. From me!
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this quote kinda tells me Darla was like Spike can kill a slayer and you cant.. at this stage i dont think angelus/angel had killed a slayer and obviosuly hadnt killed one after getting his soul either... it just always seemed as though he was annoyed at Spike for his victories of killing two slayers and Angel not killing one.
 
*charmed slayer* said:
this quote kinda tells me Darla was like Spike can kill a slayer and you cant.. at this stage i dont think angelus/angel had killed a slayer and obviosuly hadnt killed one after getting his soul either... it just always seemed as though he was annoyed at Spike for his victories of killing two slayers and Angel not killing one.
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I think Darla meant "you're supposed to be a serial killer not a puppy dog!!". Don't think that means he never killed a Slayer and, as N4H's quote says, Angelus "would've taken her out in a heartbeat".

In my opinion, eventhough it wasn't said on the shows, Angelus did kill a Slayer.

When Giles or anyone talks about Angelus, they make it sound as he is much worse than Spike. You were saying that Buffy got warned about Spike because he had killed Slayers... No one had time to warn her about Angelus and she saw by herself what he was capable of doing. Besides, we all know that even it might be degrading for him, he's totally willing to kill a Slayer. In S2 he didn't want to cut Buffy's hair with that sword, and he definetly didn't want to say 'welcome, sweetie' to Faith in ATS - S4.

Regarding the strengh, he's very powerful and there are many ways of killing and torturing people. He could have done to a Slayer what he did to Dru...
 
i disagree about with what you said about them not having enough time to warn Buffy about Angelus. they had a whole day after Buffy found out Angel was a vampire. in that time, Giles found out who he really was, when he arrived in America, and that there wasn't much activity from him after he arrived in America. he would have surely been able to find out if and when Angelus killed any Slayers.
Buffy was specifically warned about Spike when he arrived in Sunnydale, warned to the fact that he had killed not one but TWO Slayers in the past century, he would definitely have warned her if Angel had killed any, especially when he realized she was in love with him.
 
Dzhugashvili said:
Most Slayers are alone. There's not really much payoff for Angelus. No one to dwell in the misery of his artistry.
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Yeah, but until he was cursed, he had the Fanged Four to tell him how great he was, what a masterful job he did of driving that Slayer mad and then killing her. Or siring her, whatever the case may be.
 
I think if Angelus has killed a slayer, he said about that a lot like Spike. He hadn't an aim to kill a Slayer like Spike, so he didn't kill.
 
From the times that I rember seeing Angelus in the flashbacks, he never struck me as much of a fighter the way Spike was. Certainly, he was capable of fighting, and was no doubt quite formidable, but his main concern seemed to be the fear he could strike in the hearts of his victims, not the challenge of seeking out the most formidable opponents he could find the way Spike did. He would definitely avoid any Slayer who came near him, simply because he couldn't frighten her.
 
I personally don't think Angelus killed a slayer, the question isn't does he have the skill, obvious thats a yes, but does he have the will? Angelus as we already know was kind of on a higher level, he seemed less monster, but way more superior to human, and I think Angelus liked to get to know his prey alot better and be able to play with it alittle. I think the only reason he messed with Buffy and her friends was the amount of personal things he could bring to it, he knew what would set them off and he used that to his advantage. Which we saw in Passions.

I think he never killed a slayer because he never wanted to. He was way above that, and it would simply be a kill, and more or less I say it would have bored him. Spike gained his merit for killing a slayer, because his brawls and little fights were his forte, but now that he's killed one of the big guns, hes made it into Angelus's grace.
 
I don't think Angelus ever killed a slayer and this was confirmed (for me at least) while watching Damage.

Firstly, pretty soon after meeting Spike Dana begins mixing up the other slayers memories of their encounters with him. When she is confronted by Angel, she has no such memories - suggesting that there are no slayer memories of Angelus.

Secondly, and more importantly, Angel taunts Spike about murdering the two slayers. he takes the high moral ground as if the fact that he hasn't killed any Slayers makes him a better man than Spike.

i agree that going after slayers just wouldn't do it for Angelus - he likes a sure thing not an risky fight. He tries to scare Spike with the idea of a slayer in order to keep him in line but this only intreagues Spike, who lusts after the thrill of the fight.
 
For Angelus, fighting was an animalistic thing to do and, therefore, was beneath him. Angelus was only concerned with hurting and tormenting his victims. Killing was an art for him and not the result of a quick brawl. Spike says that he saw his afterlife as a party. A good time in which to let loose. He chose to let lose by getting into fights that were high risk. Not just with slayers, but in general. Nobody could keep up with the legacy of evil forged by Angelus, so Spike made a name for himself in a different way. I always thought that if Angelus did kill a slayer it wasn't through fighting but through his own traditional forms of torment. If he was interested in the fight, he would have been more than capable of defeating a slayer. I mean, it's been established that, aside from his time doubting himself, Angel(us) was a stronger and more impressive fighter than Spike.
 
I see it this way. In Death they want to be the oppisites of who they were in life. Liam was a drunken whore monger, So he tried to become an upper crust vampire. Look at Spike. He was a shy poet. Who once he became a vampire he let out all that anger and hatred to become a great vampire.
 
Angelus was never into all that hocus pocus stuff. Slayers? Magic? The Master? None of that was his cup of tea. Darla might be forever devoted to her Master. Spike might be always lusting after the epic, hand-to-hand fight. But not Angelus. He was a modern, enlightened vampire - the product of his times. More important and admirable than outdated superstition or brute force was the mind. He liked to get into people's heads. That's why he drove Dru crazy. That's why he left Jenny in Giles' bed. That's why he left those creepy drawings everywhere. I agree with those who think Angelus is too much of a snob and too much of a plotter to go after a slayer. He'd rather plan the perfect psychological torment than go hand-to-hand against mystical forces.
 
I wouldn't say it was a mystical thing per se. Angelus seemed quite verse with supernatural history and he also seemed to be a relatively skilled sorcerer.
 
No, Angelus never killed a slayer. At lease not that I know of but it was never mentioned in the show and everytime Spike says that he murdered two Angel goes all whiney...
 
spuffy said:
No, Angelus never killed a slayer. At lease not that I know of but it was never mentioned in the show and everytime Spike says that he murdered two Angel goes all whiney...
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I agree with Spuffy and everyone else who has said that Angelus has never killed a slayer but its obvious that he has the ability to kill a slayer. He is at the very least Spike's equal in combat and most likely a much better fighter.
 
If Angelus wanted to, he could definitely kill a slayer. he had the strength and the cunning, which spike didn't have the smarts and he still killed himself 2 slayers. but No, angelus didn't kill one because they would have absolutely mentioned it.
 
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