Do You Believe He Actually Loved Her?

[anyatara]

In the final episode, Chosen, when Angel comes back, they kiss, but he doesn't stay, and he never says 'I love you' and nothing happens, and after all with Cordy *&&* Nina, do you think he still loved Buffy? Because, I realise strong Bangel shippers would want to believe that, but there just aren't any sparks between them anymore, I mean sure, there was a kiss, but it coulda been for old times sake, especially since Buffy is in love with Spike at this point, but do you think either of them felt anything more than old times lust for each other? (By the way, I made up the expression 'old times lust' because I feel random 😛)

 

[Kean]

In a word...yes. To quote Cordy 'they have the forbidden love of all time'. Angel and Buffy NEVER threw around I love you's all that much. To be honest I think there was major sparkage with the smoochies and even when they were fighting Caleb, the little banter between them and Buffy had this look about her that we hadn't seen in years. The difference was that they had both grown up alot and they were each other's whole world anymore. Buffy cared about Spike and Angel cared about Cordy. If they hadn't still felt something for each other Buffy would have never gave him that maybe, she could have just let him go and be done with it. But she didn't she gave him that shred of hope because they will always be 'IT' for one another even if they are never together again I don't think they will ever love another as they loved each other. In Angel S5 in the ep 'The girl in question' we see that Angel still loves her. In chosen, like always, the timing was wrong. It wasn't about the big Bangel love it was about Buffy growing up.

 

[LittleMissLikesToFight]

there was even that little hint when he left that maybe, just maybe theyd end up together... not for a long time but like he said, he's not getting any older! so there is this part of her that loves him to think of him possibly being in her (far, far) future. and he wanted it, you know? he jealousy over spike and all... he loved her just as much but more maturely i think.

 

[Kean]

there was even that little hint when he left that maybe, just maybe theyd end up together... not for a long time but like he said, he's not getting any older! so there is this part of her that loves him to think of him possibly being in her (far, far) future. and he wanted it, you know? he jealousy over spike and all... he loved her just as much but more maturely i think.

I like that mature comment. The two of them had accepted their lives for what they were, they finally got it. But they clearly still loved each other.

 

[Kemy]

Watched Chosen last night, and as much as I never got into the Buffy/Angel ship, they always seemed right together, and in those few minutes alone you can tell they still love each other. You're right in that there isn't much said, its all unspoken at this point 😉

 

[anyatara]

Huh, that's pretty true, I never thought of it that way.

 

[Blondie Bear]

As anyone who has loved and lost can tell you, you NEVER forget your first love. Even if you're completely happy with the person you're with NOW, that first person who made you feel that way will always stick in your psyche, and a part of you will always wonder what could have been. Buffy and Angel were each other's first love, so of course there will always be that deep connection between them, even if it never comes to anything.

 

[white avenger]

First Loves

As anyone who has loved and lost can tell you, you NEVER forget your first love. Even if you're completely happy with the person you're with NOW, that first person who made you feel that way will always stick in your psyche, and a part of you will always wonder what could have been. Buffy and Angel were each other's first love, so of course there will always be that deep connection between them, even if it never comes to anything.

Absolutely! I still have fantasies (well, fond memories) of my first great romance. It's the one you never forget and always compare your current love to.
Whether I do, did, or ever will have anything else positive to say about the Buffy/Angel relationship, I freely admit that it was certainly the most memorable for both of them.

 

[slayer07]

I understand were your coming from after Cordelia and Nina that he may have moved on. But if i remember corectly he did say in series 3 of Buffy that she was the first person he ever loved in 250 years so i think that is pretty hard to beat, even thoug he's meeting new people I think Buffy will always be in his heart. I think that the reason there is no longer a spark between them is because they've both finally started to except it can never work. However as proven in 'I will remember you' I think if Angel became human he would run straight to Buffy and she would be there.

 

[anyatara]

Hmm, that's all true, if I compared things more, I wouldn't ask questions that sound stupid =/ Anyway, I think he loves her, I just don't know if they'd ever make a good couple again...

 

[LittleMissLikesToFight]

it's not a stupid question at all! I mean so much went on between when Angel left and then the last episode so of course youd wonder what things would have changed. And i think at the present time, no, they wouldnt have made a good couple because of circumstance. But maybe again in the future... i always liked to think even if it were 10 years down the line (providing she survived that long) that maybe thered be a chance. I wouldn't call myself a "bangel" fan (i kind of liked all of her relationships for what they were) but something makes me want them to end up together. Of course, itd still be tragic because buffy would die eventually and angel would have to live on without her...

 

[anyatara]

I guess. And yeah, that would be really bad =/ That's why I kinda like the Angel/Darla relationship (But only a little bit)

 

[Kean]

It's not a stupid question at all, it has every right to be asked but Buffy and Angel to me are like Ross and Rachel...They HAVE to be together, ya know what I mean?

 

[Kana]

I'm one of the few who do believed he was fond of Nina, loved Cordy and still loves Buffy. Many think it has to be one or the other but in every season it does seem to come back to her in some way.

 

[Alucard]

I like to think they both truly loved each other... I also like to think that Angel fulfilled the shanshu prophecy, was made human and he and Buffy lived happily ever after... Until a jealous Spike killed them both, of course. 🙂

 

[Blondie Bear]

:buble_eye

I can't see Spike ever killing Buffy, no matter what.

 

[Tranquillity]

Does Angel still love Buffy?
I tend to agree with those who think that the First Love thing is pretty powerful and that they will always have a love for each other but not necessarily end up back together.

I read a sort of essay that was asking the same question as this thread: does Angel love Buffy? it analysed buffy's conversations with Angel and Spike in Chosen to try and answer the question. it is quite interesting. the link is here

 

[Kean]

Does Angel still love Buffy?
I tend to agree with those who think that the First Love thing is pretty powerful and that they will always have a love for each other but not necessarily end up back together.

I read a sort of essay that was asking the same question as this thread: does Angel love Buffy? it analysed buffy's conversations with Angel and Spike in Chosen to try and answer the question. it is quite interesting. the link is here

Thanks for the link. I read most of it but honestly I couldn't finish it. Thorough it was not. They took all the coversation in an extremely literal sense. Their explanation for what Buffy and Angel said to each other basically came off as a Spuffy fan wank. Twisted it so Spike came out on top. Really don't have any patience for that kinda thing, I understand backing a ship, I'm Bangel all the way, but I will never deny the feelings Buffy and Spike had for each other or try to turn what they ahd so it was really all about Angel. Also, as a Duck's fan I did not appreciate the snide remarks and derogatory comments. The women is insanely smart, the work she has done for B/A fan fcition can't even be measured. She is the not some pathetic loser she is repeatedly portrayed as in that essay.

Ok sorry for ranting at you but that really p***ed me off.

 

[Tranquillity]

sorry - didn't mean to offend. i just thought it was kind of interesing . and must admit, don't know what a 'ducks' is anyway.

 

[LadyLavinia]

I thought that Angel had remained in love with Buffy. In fact, it seemed to me in Season 5 of AtS that he loved both Buffy and Cordelia. Which doesn't seem unlikely. After all, it was later revealed around the same time, Buffy was in love with both Angel and Spike.