Do you believe in supernatural?

I'm quite convinced that there is a profound connection between us.
It's subtle and it takes (for most of us) practice to notice it. It extends out to other life-forms, too. At a guess i'd say all living things but i'm not sure where to draw the line at what is living and what isn't. There is a wealth of information that is shared at this level, so much so that(for most of us) it is natural to ignore it.

Rupert Sheldrake has an interesting book: "Seven Experiments that could change the world." Homing pigeons, dogs going to wait at the gate when their master leaves work, and other phenomena are discussed in it.

I do a kind of bodywork. I get called a healer and sometimes i am, though more often i feel i'm just helping the body get back to what is important. It can be pretty subtle. There's not always a lot to see happening, but it's commonplace to see a parent (sitting nearby) relax at the exact same time as their child (whom i'm treating) relaxes, especially if the parent is not really paying attention. Maybe they are reading or they've spaced off (it gets very peaceful in these sessions).

Any way. Natural connections where there is a level of shared information available and responded to but not necessarily obvious. Or you're out with a friend having a really fun time and it's like you know what each other are going to say next . On each others wavelength, that kind of thing. Knowing who is on the phone when it rings. All common occurrences.

The point is that what is natural for one person is downright weird for another. If you already know about this level of information, you don't reach for mythology when it is demonstrated. A lot of the time people will interpret something witch challenges their 'natural order of things' with the first thing that comes into their heads. If they are scared then their interpretation can be surreal. I've seen a large black cat growling at me for a couple of seconds before I realised it was a plastic bag in the breeze in a dark alley.

So there are a lot of misinterpretations of natural phenomena. And a lot of name calling.

Then there are other things that it are difficult to explain so simply. Like Lyri's ghost boy.

When a body gets caught up in some odd or unhelpful behaviour there tends to be some genesis for it. Some starting point. And there is/was an importance to the behaviour. Sometimes an event like being dropped on your head as a baby, or sometimes because the behaviour was the easiest way to deal with some other circumstance. So this coping behaviour gets locked in, habitualised.

I think it might be similar with ghosts (it's a common enough theory). They hang around because they have to. Somewhen it was important enough not to leave.

Either way all these things are natural. So I believe in some pretty odd stuff but i don't believe in the Super-Natural because it's all natural. There seems to be a dogma that goes: either it's natural or something made it. If something made it is it un-natural?
 
I used to believe. Now I don't. Although I wish sometimes I did. The only thing I suppose I do think is that everything happens for a reason, you just got to find the reason.
 
I consider myself an Atheist, though I'm always open to the possibility that I am wrong. I've just never seen anything concrete truly indicating that something else is out there.


~I have never seen a vision, nor learned a secret, that would damn or save my soul ~

bonus points if you recognize the quote 😉
 
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interview w/ a vampire, right?
Okay, question. And don't think I belong to the asylum. Does it happen to anyone else:
I read or think of a word and a second later they say it on TV or I see a sign that says that word, or something else. And it happens every day pretty much. I met someone who said she had the same thing. And no, it's not words that I sub-consciously hear or see or read like someone who walks down the street and goes pass me and he says something that I sub-consciously pick up. Don't know, that's just weird. Does it happen to anyone else?
 
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I've had dreams that happen later on in real life.
I am Christian so I believe in God and good and by definition, I have to also believe in evil and what comes with that is Satan and even demons. Now, do I believe in things like beast looking things walking around with horns? No, and while I've never really witnessed a demon possession, and while it's hard to say I believe in them without actually having witnessed them, I believe that's possible too. But do I believe in vampires like on BtVS? No. But with believing in God and a higher power, I'm open to having things happen in this world I may eventually have to attribute to being "supernatural."
 
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Yep interview with the vampire as spoken by Armand 🙂

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I am Christian so I believe in God and good and by definition, I have to also believe in evil and what comes with that is Satan and even demons. Now, do I believe in things like beast looking things walking around with horns? No, and while I've never really witnessed a demon possession, and while it's hard to say I believe in them without actually having witnessed them, I believe that's possible too. But do I believe in vampires like on BtVS? No. But with believing in God and a higher power, I'm open to having things happen in this world I may eventually have to attribute to being "supernatural."

I know religious debates can easily lead to heated discussion. So I'm stating ahead of time I don't have any intentions of sounding rude or belittling someones personal beliefs, I am just genuinely curious. With many legends around the world regarding God, Jesus, Satan and Demons, many claiming truth others being openly works of fiction. What distinguishes those apart to you from multitudes of other supernatural stories from around the world that also claim truth.
 
Yep interview with the vampire as spoken by Armand 🙂

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I know religious debates can easily lead to heated discussion. So I'm stating ahead of time I don't have any intentions of sounding rude or belittling someones personal beliefs, I am just genuinely curious. With many legends around the world regarding God, Jesus, Satan and Demons, many claiming truth others being openly works of fiction. What distinguishes those apart to you from multitudes of other supernatural stories from around the world that also claim truth.

No worries! 🙂 I mean, I have faith in what I believe in, and talking about it, even debating about it doesn't upset me at all. I mean, we are all gonna believe what we feel drawn to, and with believing what I do, I accept some people are gonna think I'm a brainwashed fool ([BOLD]not that I think you do by any means[/BOLD]! Just making a point!) I don't get all worked up over it really. At the end of the day, I have faith. 🙂

Anyhoo! I took a very interesting class a last year called "Slavic Vampire" and it was all about how tribes did not know how to bury their dead correctly, so when it would rain really hard, all these dead bodies would was up into their town and they would freak out! And plus, since they didn't know how to properly embalm their dead, they would puff up with blood and water and blood would be dripping from their mouths. They blamed demons and thought their dead had come back to life and were feeding off their family members as vampires. Of course, this is not what happened, but they used a mythologically story to explain an aspect of their lives and culture they couldn't explain rationally.

With any sort of belief, people think that's what you are doing. Making up a belief to comfort yourself about the unknown. The difference I have found with Christianity is that God is good and alive and does pursue people. And we could go on and on about why is God good if he lets such bad things happen in this world. That's not this debate. To answer your question, at the end of the day I believe in the Bible and scripture. Now, does that mean I have 100% faith everyday and don't struggle with my faith some days? Heck no, of course I do! In fact, the biggest problem I have with Christianity is homosexuality. I am heterosexual but I find it ridiculous that people think sexuality is a choice. People holding up signs that say "God Hates Fags" is so heart breaking to see. God loves everyone, that's His thing. In fact, I just did a speech titled, "Why Gay Marriage Isn't Wrong" and I was honest in my speech saying sometimes I feel caught in the middle. Some Christians don't respect my beliefs because I am for gay marriage and sometimes the LGTB community finds out I'm a Christian and they assume I'm homophobic. Not the case in either scenario.

But, what I do know is that I believe the Bible - but with that comes the responsibility of knowing the context in which it was written and what it means. For instance, using the homosexuality example from above, people from both sides often quote Leviticus. Both sides should do their research because that is Old Testament, the old covenant. That book was a set of rules for a society that was needing to procreate to flourish, that may be why there is a rule about no gay sex, because you can't get babies from it. Regardless, when you accept Jesus as your savior, what you are saying is, "God, I am not good enough to get into Heaven myself. But I'll let Jesus pay the cost of all my wrongs so that I can go to heaven." Like, letting Jesus cover a massive dinner bill so you get to leave scott free. When you accept Jesus that is accepting the new covenant which means you no longer need to follow the old rules set up in Leviticus. So, regardless of what that that book of the Bible says, Christians no longer need to follow it. They only need to follow the 10 Commandments (as Jesus reiterates them) and strive to live a life that is demonstrated in the New Testement.

So, how do distinguish between the truth and what isn't? I do my research, ask pastors, mythology professors, whoever seems to be the most experienced in the subject. I pray about it and see if it lines up with scripture. I do believe Jesus is the truth, that He is the way to God, and that I want to live my life for him.

I hope that answers your question. I am not a braindead zombie, being force fed my faith. I do my research and have a relationship with Jesus. And that is my ultimate truth.
 
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