Does Fred have a crush on Willow? (Orpheus)

I don't think it's a crush, more a 'Oh, look! She's just as smart as me! I have someone to relate to!'

Fred had to dumb everything down around the LA Gang, with Willow she didn't have to do that, and I think her geek/nerdy-ness took over for a while.
 
Yeah, Willow was the crushy one. Fred was just being herself and so happy she could relate to someone, and by her reaction to Willow's "I'm seeing someone" I think it was pretty obvious she didn't even realize she was sending out any vibes to Willow (which, in her book, she probably wasn't, it was just Willow's judgement).
 
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Starlet
It's true, you can see how confused she is when Willow comes up with "I'm seeing someone"
Karol
Karol
I think Fred made a sad face when Willow said "im seeing some one", but I dont think Fred realized that xD
Yes Fred does indeed have a crush on Willow, you can try to deny it, but it doesn't change a thing.
 
Hello, Frillow shipper here! You won't find me answering "No" to that question even if you threaten to throw things at me. Wouldn't want to give up THE H-O-T-T-E-S-T "might have been" shipping fantasy a nerd-ophiliac like me could think of in the entire Buffyverse. And yes, that's bar none. :drool2:

If they just had had more time than one ep (and Willow could have gotten over the "erm, no"-ness that was Kennedy)... aah, I would have paid through the nose to see that.
 
And wouldn't that have driven poor Wes right 'round the bend.
Enough to make the poor guy turn to men.

Then again, Alexis having his real life wife and on-screen girlfriend make time together might have been "interesting" for him.
 
I just watched this episode for the very first time. Aaah I'm so happy, I've seen my Wiwi again ! (Yes I do know that nickname is more that ridiculous.). Ahem, anyway.

STUPID WIWI !!! Why wouldn't you just let go of stupid Kennedy and gay Fred up ?! It was the PERFECT occasion !!

I don't think Fred was attracted to Willow, or at least, I don't think she realised it. You can totally tell by her look when Willow tells her "I'm seeing a stupid selfish brat" (or something like that)... But Willow totally has a crush on Fred, with the complimenting, the chin-touching, the Wesley-questionning... (while not telling him she's now gay... (though maybe Cordy told him)) !! And at the end you can see how she decides "No, I can't let myself fall for Fred or even consider it, I gotta kill this in the egg, I'm gonna tell her I'm seeing a useless immature bitca"... But otherwise she totally wanted Fred.

AND I TOTALLY WANTED THEM TOGETHER ! I think Frillow is like such a better couple that irrealistic Wennedy or whatever you kids call it. ^^'

I mean, they totally match.

Though I really don't believe Fred was attracted to Willow - but she could have been. Sides, she was in a disappointed-in-men phasis... Arf... Well... Maybe she'll come back (I know she won't =( ) in S8 and hook up with Willow after Kennedy has died of stupidity.

Edit: Hey since I still got the DVD running in my DVD player, I'm running the commentary right now. Director Terrence O'Hara and co-producer Jeffrey Bell. They're saying they did decide that Willow's got a crush on Fred !! Without Wesley knowing, or at least at first... Hehe.
 
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Lindsey McDonald
"Killed it in the egg"? Well, that's a lot more violent than "Nipped it in the bud"! Oh, I love "Wiwi", btw!
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InsaneMystic
a world of YES. Frillow is the best ship that never was (and, sadly, won't ever be there now with Illyria and all *sob*)
I'd like to think so, mainly because it would have been so much cuter for Willow to end up with Fred and not bloody Kennedy. Then again knowing what happens to Fred...well I'm torn on the issue.

But it was probably her having a brainy friend to talk to which is something she was going to be very happy about. Whether it was a crush as well I don't know.
 
Washburne
Washburne
And the direction would be? If you remember that is.
Then again knowing what happens to Fred...well I'm torn on the issue.
What would have been interesting. Willow and Fred dating and Fred dying. How would Willow react? Gone dark again and starting to fight Illyria? Someone please point me in the direction at available fanfic about this. 🙂
Yes, I´m too lazy to go look for it myself.
 
Kemy
Kemy
Actually...I read this cute fanfic where Illyria and Willow got married.
I think that there was a mutual attraction between the two, but it was more intellectual than sexual, if that makes a whole lot of sense. On the other hand, it wouldn't take a great stretch of the imagination to see Fred performing the same "experiment" with Willow that Buffy did with Satsu.
 
Kemy
Kemy
Some of us imagine it quite easily *cough*
Five by Five > Oh I'm sorry, I guess this expression "kill in the egg" doesn't really exist in English ! I have this tendency to translate the French expressions... "Tuer dans l'oeuf" is so cute actually. Erm. Yet I had noticed lots and lots of times it translated as "nip in the bud". I'm sorry. Sometimes I really think I should shut the heck up and get better at English language before posting in English-speaking boards and not getting understood.

As to the possible attraction, I think Fred really is warm with everyone (see how she greeted Faith...), without really thinking how it can be interpreted. Would have loved Frillow though.
 
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InsaneMystic
are you kidding? your English is better than that of quite a number of native speakers I've read!
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OldSwede
Exactly!
does fred have a crush on willow erm let me think??? ok let me think i'll leave it as simple as i can.... is the grass green?



dark willow vs illyria wowzers!!! how cool would that have been and as for frillow thats another moment in the seires that we were dennied we should have got to see them happen as it would have been so cool especially with the prospect of dark willow vs illyria at the end lol.
 
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InsaneMystic
I'd imagine DW vs. Illyria ending much like Cordy & Xander in the basement (WML?). Yeah, wishful thinking. ^^
Is there ANY combination of two people in Buffy and Angel where there is not at some point at least a slight indication that they are attracted to each other, regardless of sex? At least if the two people are alive at the same time - No, wait, that's not really a problem either.
The constant hinting of attraction and crushes is part of the fun...
 
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Ripper 08
i don't think spike and giles where ever attracted to each other lolz :P
I'm a Fred/Willow shipper! Well, up until recently. When I saw the Willow/Fred scenes I thought that was so cute. Willow so has a crush on Fred and says rather regretfully " I'm seeing someone"

Dark Willow Vs Illyria would have been awesome. Are there any fics around with Willow/Fred pairings and Willow/Illyria pairings?
 
Kemy
Kemy
I've only ever found Willow/Fred and Willow/Illyria
I would have to be one of those who say no. Willow got too carried away about Fred eagerness.
 
I would have to be one of those who say no. Willow got too carried away about Fred eagerness.
IMO, Willow didn't get carried away nearly enough. 😀 While I do agree (grumblingly) that Fred's excitement over Will probably wasn't erotic in nature (more "ooh finally another geek girl around here, let's totally discuss quantum physics!"), I trust Will could have won her over to the L tribe with half a try. *closing my eyes and wishing very hard for that to have happened*
 
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Spirit_Of_Fred
let's totally discuss quantum physics!!!!!!!!!! i dont know why, but that made me laugh. perhaps because it would be a very un-fred-like thing to say. ...totally! LOL! :P
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