Election 2012

[Black Eye Guy]

How goes your voting Americans?

Someone mentioned this earlier and got me wondering do you guys hear allot of news when other countries are voting for their presidents/leader?

I'd assume not? We hear allot about England but that's cuz we're like cousins! But I can't recall hearing about other European countries?
(Just to be clear I'm not saying its bad if you haven't, like I said I never hear other countries)

I usually hate the news, never really watch, but I'm watching CNN tonight, I find your elections far more interesting to our own, lol. I thnk it's from watching West Wing. (Heard the word filibuster earlier and was like west wing reference!)

They mentioned a Vigo county in Indiana that has voted for the winner since 1892 (except twice) which is kinda interesting, and it's gone to Barack.

 

[white avenger]

They won't be announcing any results until the polls close on the West Coast, so we'll be lucky to get any sort of actual total before midnight, EST, or even later, especially if the vote runs as close as several commentators have predicted.

 

[BuffyElevated]

I am so tired of hearing about the election. I think this year it was a choice between the lesser of two evils, so I voted for the person I thought was less evil (and no, I'm not saying who).
I will just be glad when it's over, because people get so damn mean about politics. I think it's good to be passionate about something you care about, but I feel and always will feel that politics is one of those subjects that brings out the worst in people.

 

[Black Eye Guy]

They won't be announcing any results until the polls close on the West Coast, so we'll be lucky to get any sort of actual total before midnight, EST, or even later, especially if the vote runs as close as several commentators have predicted.

Yeah I've been watching in tv, it all seems very close. Makes for intresting tv!

I am so tired of hearing about the election. I think this year it was a choice between the lesser of two evils, so I voted for the person I thought was less evil (and no, I'm not saying who).
I will just be glad when it's over, because people get so damn mean about politics. I think it's good to be passionate about something you care about, but I feel and always will feel that politics is one of those subjects that brings out the worst in people.

Oh yeah you reminded me I forgot to say, no need to say who your voting for or discuss your own politics as that never works, lol.

Do you guys watch the updates or just wait for the end results, I turned it and have gotten sucked in, can't seem to turn it off!

 

[Ethan Reigns]

No need to be that interested in the political situation - the Senior Partners will be able to work with whoever gets in. Which is why I haven't heard anything in the way of a solution to America's problems in any of the political ads or coverage.

Does this give away my status as an Angel fan?

 

[brinkster130]

I enjoy politics so I get really into Election Day; watching the coverage and data as it rolls out all day long. I'm expecting a very long night, as the race is expected to be very close and I wouldn't be surprised it there is some swing state drama, along with some trouble with power outages back east and hand counting ballots. There has already been a few reports of voters being turned away in some areas over ID issues...who know if that will turn out to be significant.

I try and keep up with news about elections in other countries because international politics interests me; but I've never noticed it being wildly discussed in the American media.

Anyways, I'm on the west coast and am just getting ready to head over to my polling place. I hope everyone who could vote did! 🙂

 

[caitaintdead]

Over here in Australia it has been discussed in great depth. There is still a lot of animosity in Australia towards the Bush bullshit that spiraled into our country so every single person I have spoken to is crossing their fingers that Americans vote Obama again.

 

[Black Eye Guy]

I enjoy politics so I get really into Election Day; watching the coverage and data as it rolls out all day long. I'm expecting a very long night, as the race is expected to be very close and I wouldn't be surprised it there is some swing state drama, along with some trouble with power outages back east and hand counting ballots. There has already been a few reports of voters being turned away in some areas over ID issues...who know if that will turn out to be significant.

I try and keep up with news about elections in other countries because international politics interests me; but I've never noticed it being wildly discussed in the American media.

Anyways, I'm on the west coast and am just getting ready to head over to my polling place. I hope everyone who could vote did! 🙂

Interesting.

I've heard some of the stuff about problems, machines that changed votes and stuff. We don't really have the same kinda coverage in country as you guys do.


I don know a lot about American politics, but was just watching and they said that the house will be republican, but senate is to early to call but likely to go republican.
Has there been a term were all 3 were of the same party?
Would that basically mean that stuff beneficial to a particular part would get through easier?

 

[GATEGOD]

Interesting.

I've heard some of the stuff about problems, machines that changed votes and stuff. We don't really have the same kinda coverage in country as you guys do.


I don know a lot about American politics, but was just watching and they said that the house will be republican, but senate is to early to call but likely to go republican.
Has there been a term were all 3 were of the same party?
Would that basically mean that stuff beneficial to a particular part would get through easier?

I look at this election like this.

I live in New York. Therefore we are giving Obama our Electoral Votes and I don't even need to vote. If I lived somewhere that was undecided than maybe I'd need to vote.

The Senate: It's so bleak and pointless atm. Even if Obama wins the presidency, even if they get a 51 seat majority... it doesn't matter. They need 60 people so that the other side doesn't filibuster and slow shit up indefinitely. It's so shady. The other side gets to taint every decision they don't like so it won't happen so that the President will look bad for not doing what he promised so that in 4 years they can bring in a Republican.

That's how I see it. =/

I don't get why they don't just do the 'overall votes' gets you elected. If I knew my vote counted, for real counted, I would vote. But since they don't go by actual vote totals, only by the electoral college... ugh ugh ugh.

Ugh.

 

[Little Miss Muffet]

I do hear about other countries elections. Mostly Latin American most recently Venezuela. 🙄 I was watching results and what not earlier but here in the west coast we have about an hour left in the polls. I don't like to over watch CNN it gets me nervous. I just hope people go out and vote. :usa:

:usa2:

 

[brinkster130]

Has there been a term were all 3 were of the same party?
Would that basically mean that stuff beneficial to a particular party would get through easier?

Obama's first two-ish years. 😉 Bush and Clinton also has some "Parties in Power" time. It does happen, but usually doesn't stay that way too long. In theory, it would (should) mean that the President (party) has an easier time doing what they please, however in reality it rarely works that way. There are usually differences of opinion within the same party over legislation that makes it hard to pass things and there is always the good ol' filibuster that IMO is way to easy to use.

 

[brinkster130]

They've called it...Obama has been re-elected.

 

[whitewolf]

I'm glad this election is over. I'm big into politics and think it is important, but honestly this election was choice between the lesser of two evils and I'm sick of voting for evil. I went Green this year. Sure my vote may have been "wasted", but at least I can say I voted for what I thought was right (Well as right as possible, the party I really wanted wasn't on the ballot in TN.)

The U.S. really needs to make some major reforms in our political system before we can see any real change from the status quo. I want to see the U.S. adopt a multiparty parliamentary system like in Europe.

 

[Pike]

Well, I hope that I'm not stepping on any toes here. I voted for Obama (again) and wup wup! Plus, four of four states have passed gay marriage.

 

[SlayerFest]

I look at this election like this.

I live in New York. Therefore we are giving Obama our Electoral Votes and I don't even need to vote. If I lived somewhere that was undecided than maybe I'd need to vote.

The Senate: It's so bleak and pointless atm. Even if Obama wins the presidency, even if they get a 51 seat majority... it doesn't matter. They need 60 people so that the other side doesn't filibuster and slow shit up indefinitely. It's so shady. The other side gets to taint every decision they don't like so it won't happen so that the President will look bad for not doing what he promised so that in 4 years they can bring in a Republican.

That's how I see it. =/

I don't get why they don't just do the 'overall votes' gets you elected. If I knew my vote counted, for real counted, I would vote. But since they don't go by actual vote totals, only by the electoral college... ugh ugh ugh.

Ugh.

I live in CA so I didn't need to vote either but my mom guilt trips me and says "if everyone had that mentality...California would be screwed" haha but I really just voted because this was the first election I was eligible to vote in.

Anyway...I can now sleep peacefully 🙂.

Well, not really. I'm still waiting to see if Prop 30 passes. If it doesn't, I'll just have to join the circus and I do not want to join the circus :cry:.

 

[Vamp Jenny]

Very happy Obama was re-elected 🙂 My offer still stands, though. When Americans are done with him, please send him our way to Canada, it would be greatly appreciated 😉

 

[VisionGirl]

I look at this election like this.

I live in New York. Therefore we are giving Obama our Electoral Votes and I don't even need to vote. If I lived somewhere that was undecided than maybe I'd need to vote...

I don't get why they don't just do the 'overall votes' gets you elected. If I knew my vote counted, for real counted, I would vote. But since they don't go by actual vote totals, only by the electoral college... ugh ugh ugh.

Ugh.

I understand what you're saying. I'm a Democrat in the "reddest state in the nation", so it often feels pointless. But local & state elections are very, very important too. So while I'm happy that the presidential election went my way, nothing else did.

 

[Black Eye Guy]

Does it count as a landslide that he nailed it in electoral votes, but only led by .5 in the overall (last time I checked, that may have changed)

Or would it only be a landslide had he won in popular vote?

 

[white avenger]

Does it count as a landslide that he nailed it in electoral votes, but only led by .5 in the overall (last time I checked, that may have changed)

Or would it only be a landslide had he won in popular vote?

It all depends on your definition of "landslide." If you're a Democrat today, yes, Obama won by a landslide. If you're a Republican, this is a clear indication that he clearly doesn't have a substantial majority of the American voters in favor of his returning to office.

Incidentally, if anyone is interested, there have so far been four Presidents who have failed to win the popular vote, but did win the electoral vote:

John Quincy Adams who lost by 44,804 votes to Andrew Jackson in 1824

Rutherford B. Hayes who lost by 264,292 votes to Samuel J. Tilden in 1876

Benjamin Harrison who lost by 95,713 votes to Grover Cleveland in 1888

George W. Bush who lost by 543,816 votes to Al Gore in the 2000 election.

I've never seen the logic in that, other than that it gives certain states, like California, special importance and allows them to get special concessions from whoever does get elected.

 

[brinkster130]

[MENTION=5973]Black Eye Guy[/MENTION]

WA is correct, they are going to call it a landslide but when you look at the overall popular vote it's clear it really isn't in the true sense of the term. Also, Obama won his re-election by a much smaller margin than he won his first term; people will bring that up repeatedly through the next four years.

I think the last time the US had a true landslide victory in the presidential race was in 1984 with Reagan. He won 525 electoral votes and 58.8% of the popular vote. All the recent races have been so close that if a candidate nears the 300 mark in electoral votes our media tends to toss around the word landslide.