Episode discussion - War Stories S1E10

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Original air date: December 6, 2002
Directed by: James Contner
Written by: Cheryl Cain

Plot:

Wash begins to feel threatened by the bond between Mal and Zoe. To see for himself how the two work together, Wash demands that he, instead of Zoe, goes on a mission with Mal to sell the stolen Ariel medical supplies. Unfortunately, the ruthless and sadistic gangster Niska has found out where Serenity is, and captures Mal and Wash and tortures them as revenge for their failure in the train robbery mission (from The Train Job episode). Meanwhile, Inara has another client who is a wealthy councilperson on the planet they're on and to the crew's surprise, the client is a woman. When Zoe learns about Niska's abduction of Wash and Mal, she tries to strike a bargain for their release, but Niska steals all their money and stolen cargo, while releasing only Wash. Realizing that Mal was willing to sacrifice himself for him, Wash persuades Zoe, Jayne and Book and the rest of the crew...

Trivia: On the DVD commentary, Alan Tudyk pointed out that despite the way Zoe and Wash were constantly portrayed, with Zoe being taller than her husband, Alan is in fact taller than Gina Torres. He is 6', she is 5'10''.

In the opening scene, where Simon and Book are discussing the operations performed on River, Simon is looking at a computer display of River's brain. The text that scans past underneath the brain model is lines of Javascript code from a web page.

--All of the above comes from IMDB.com

My take:

-Kind of an odd opening with Simon and Shepherd. The whole analogy between Sun Tzu and whatever -went on with River and the government wasn't exactly apt.
-Foreign badiness returns! This old guy has the creep-factor down pat. And those lashes on that guy? Not fun. And I think he stole Faith's dagger"¦
-Okay, Preacher and foreign badiness are both quoting lines about men being pushed to their limits. I have a sneaking suspicion that might be the theme around which this episode will revolve. At least one member of the crew are going to be a deep shi** this episode, mark my words.
Its always nice seeing River just be able to play have fun.
-I have mixed feelings about where I think this episode is heading. Clearly, Wash has some issues going on with Zoe and Mal. That's fine, but my problem with it isn't that it's being done, but rather that it just appeared out of nowhere. We've seen how great Joss can be with foreshadowing, so to have this whole jealousy arc materialize out of the blue is kind of odd (even though I love a Wash episode)
-I love how Jayne is still eating the same apple off his switchblade.
-Okay, I like the councillor right off the bat . "I'll be in my bunk". Awesome Jayne.
-Man, preacher is going buck on the bench press. He's actually lifting a stupid amount of weight for someone his age. And him being able to identify gun and ballistics matches on sight of a wound is pretty nuts. There's more than meets the eye with him.
-Wash's little freakout after being kidnapped was hilarious. I don't think he's built for field work though.
-Mal and Wash arguing about Zoe and relationships while going through electric torture and them trying to head-shrink the other's emotional problems was hilarious.
-Zoe choosing to save Wash over Mal right away was an excellent way to put a stamp on the jealousy arc. Now they can move forward to saving Mal. Good transitioning scene.
-I love the way the whole team just cowboys up.
-This is just a pet peeve of mine, but the way Zoe was firing that shotgun was pretty silly. I mean, to side-arm a gun like that and fire, it would fly right of your hand, even if you're Mike Tyson. Her blasting away without even any kickback was pretty cheesy, even though so many action shows and movies do it.
-Am I the only one who thinks blowing up vehicles and throwing freaking grenades on a space station isn't the best plan?
-There is so much more than meets the eye with Preacher. He's dodging bullets, literally, and making incredibly hard shots seem like nothing.
-River getting in touch with her inner-Clint Eastwood, and then saying "no power in the verse' can stop me" was both awesome and kind of chilling. Pretty stark contrast to what we saw just 30 minutes ago
-We might have just had the best line of the series so far. "Jayne, this is something the captain has to do for himself." "No it's not!"

-I liked this episode, but I didn't find it as good as the previous two or three. I just couldn't that invested in the triangle arc between Wash, Mal and Zoe. It just seemed"¦out of place. There was no hinting or foreshadowing whatsoever that there might be unresolved issues between the three of them. I think the best part of the episode was River towards the end, where she just goes all Jason Bourne on foreign badiness' thugs.
 
Look at who's back. Even with less of a season the show still have 3 characters showing up twice. Badger, Niska and a third to come.

"Oh, the pitter-patter of tiny feet in huge combat boots. Shut up!!"

River and Kaylee having fun. God how I love it when the women of Serenity have fun. "No power in the verse can stop me."

Wash and Zoe getting scared by Jayne being nice and buying apples for them all. Now why would he be nice...

I really feel for River. Summer play her great. Is it possible not to love the sibling relationship.

Jayne and Kaylee hiding but watching to see who Inara will serve this time. Kaylee sure make Inaras work out to be romantic. Even Book comes to take a look.

Mal welcomes the bodyguard. Everyone's reaction when the realize that it's a woman. "I'll be in my bunk." Oh Jayne.

"Here's a funny twist. No." Wash... What are you up to.
So jealous. Although you can understand it.

"I've been in a firefight before.
Well, I was in a fire.
Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opprotunity.
I can handle myself." Very convincing Wash.

"I'll learn as I go.
So now I'm learing about carrying."
"Now I'm learning about scary."

Once again Book show knowledge you don't expect him to have.

"I'm the one that she swore to love, honor and obey.
Listen... She swore to obey?
Well, no, not... But that's just my point. You she obeys. She obeys you. There's obeying going on right under my nose."
Ok, taking it a bit far now.

"There's plenty orders of mine that she didn't obey.
Name one.
She married you!"

Being tortured but still arguing.
"Mal, I wish you'd slept with her."

Once again. Mal's being a jerk but it has a purpose.

Love how Zoe interrupts Niska by chosing Wash right away. Too bad she gets a piece of Mal too. Niska is so generous.

"He's insane." Niska are but that's not who he's talking about.

"We're getting him back.
What are we gonna do, clone him?"

"Don't the bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?
Quite specific. It is however somewhat fuzzy around the subject of kneecaps."
I just love that quote. Not that I'm in favour of violence.

"If it moves, shoot it.
Unless it's the captain.
Unless it's the captain."

Kneecaps it is. Good hit Book. I love how Kaylee is absolutely terrified. The person she is anything else hadn't fit.

"You wanna meet the real me now?" Anyone else think that Mal looks like a cross between a zombie and Frankensteins monster? 😉 Kind of amazed that he can stand up at all.

"Can't look, can't look." Yes, it's scar... Oh, that's not what she meant. Did you see that coming the first time you watched it?

*Looking smug "No power in the verse can stop me."

"Jayne, this is something the captain has to do for himself.
No. No it's not.
Oh." All three starts shooting.

"I never shot anyone before.
I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet."

"I understand. We have no choice. Take me, sir. Take me hard." Wash's reaction to that whole conversation. "We'll be in our bunk." 😀

Well, they had money for a little while. Jayne helps rescuing the captain although he thinks it's a suicide mission. Good on him, not only thinking for himself. Maybe the failed betrayal has changed him. A little.

-I have mixed feelings about where I think this episode is heading. Clearly, Wash has some issues going on with Zoe and Mal. That's fine, but my problem with it isn't that it's being done, but rather that it just appeared out of nowhere. We've seen how great Joss can be with foreshadowing, so to have this whole jealousy arc materialize out of the blue is kind of odd (even though I love a Wash episode)

I know it's blown up way more but I feel that we've had signs of Wash not being comfortable about Mals and Zoes relationship. Then again, maybe I've seen the show so many times that I mix things together. So I'm interested in hearing what the newbies have to say on the matter.
 
-I'm curious as to where each of the crew members actually comes from. Mal and Kaylee have similar accents, Zoe and Wash don't seem to have one at all, Jayne as one, and Inara has her refined way of speaking from her training.
-Ut-oh, is creepy little German man back?? That won't be good...
-"I'm thinking of growing a big, black mustache. I'm a traditionalist." I do like Simon's humor.
-Niska reminds me of a character from another movie/show. Not sure what, though. His "Oh, this is very exciting news!" comment gave me deja vu. *scratches chin*
-HAHAHA, Mal. Tiny feet in combat boots. "SHUT UP!" "One of yous is gonna fall and die and I'm not cleaning it up!" Sounds like my dad...
-Aw, Wash and Zoe arguing. 🙁 And least they are rational about it. Well, kind of. I see where Wash is coming from, but he also knew what he was signing on for when he married Zoe. I would think, anyway.
-River is starting to remind me of Dawn, but she is MUCH less annoying. And has reason to be all confuzzled.
-I like how Jayne eats his apples. Heh.
-Oh, boy, Inara has a female client. That'll get everyone's dander up. 😛
-Alright, Wash is kind of being douchey right now. Mal is probably regretting having a married couple on his crew right now. 😛
-I disagree, Inara. I can totally be myself with my husband! 😀
-Seriously, Mal is ALWAYS in the middle of a gun tussle!
-Jayne is like a teenaged boy...."Jayne, grab your gun." Oi, the innuendos.
-Shep knows lots about guns and ships. Again, intriguing.
-Wash needs to get over his jealousy issue. Sheesh.
-Yeah, I don't think any wife swears to obey these days.
-"She married you!" Oh, that's going to be awkward later.
-Love that Mal and Wash are arguing while being tortured. Joss and his humor. <3 I really don't think Mal and Zoe slept together, though. I have never felt any sexual tension/history between them at all. I have a feeling they are just trying to tick each other off as a distraction. Good thinking, guys.
-No, don't wreck Mal's pretty face!!!!!! It was like insane troll logic all over again.
-Oh, good, Simon can fix it. Phew.
-Not sure what Niska's machine is doing, but I suddenly though of the machine that sucks the life out of you on "The Princess Bride".
-"Can they do that?" "Nooo." Heh.
-Yay for the Bible being fuzzy about knee caps! Do Kaylee and Simon know how to shoot guns??
-Nothing like a life-and-death crisis to bring a crew together.
-Jayne's "Coulda, shoulda, woulda". *cocks gun* 😀
-Bonus points for an awesome entry, Serenity crew!! For a team that hasn't been to battle together, they function well together.
-Ooo, Mal is kinda scary. Kick his [butt], Sea Bass!
-Zoe cross-drawing her handguns is hot!
-Kaylee should never be put in situations where shooting is involved. Have these people learned nothing??
-Uh, River is a lean, mean fightin' machine! "Can't look! Can't look!" Very interesting...Alliance was maybe making themselves an assassin?
-Mal punning while fighting to the death. Of course.
-Eesh, Kaylee and River awkwardness.
-Bahahahaha. Love the dead-pan seduction. And Jayne. That was just all golden.

Well, that episode gave me a LOT to chew on.
 
I really like this episode, so much changes and its got action, humor and romance.

Firstly there's Jayne who now not only gives up his money to help buy the captain back, without complaining, but also joins in the rescue mission to help save them. He really is growing into more of a team player.

The Mal/Zoe/Wash relationship I think has been brewing for a while. maybe not so much on a romantic front but there has been definate issues. Zoe's ''Not now dear'' comment to Wash when her and Mal are on a mission in a previous episode sticks out. It is almost like she dismisses Wash and just takes orders from Mal. I enjoyed watching the relationships sort themselves out. The scene with Mal and Zoe at the end was so obviously awkward and there was no romantic tension at all.

Book is definately a mystery. I really want to know more about him. I dont think it was a coincidence that both him and Niska both quoted the same crazy poet.

The thing that changed the most was Kaylee and River's relationship. At the start of the episode there running around playing with each other. Then River saves Kaylee and Kaylee is ignoring her, almost scared. I'd admit having a crazy person be that skilled at killing people is unnerving but still Kaylee should tell someone.
 
I think this is my favourite episode. It had me at the edge of my seat the whole time. There's so much humour and emotion and action.

One of my favourite parts is when Mal and Wash are getting electrocuted as Mal is threatening to sleep with Zoe. It's really touching when you realize Mal is just trying to keep Wash awake. 🙁

Then, the part when Kaylee runs away from the gunmen (look at her poor face, she's terrified!), River comes up and shoots them like a total badass. I love her line, "No power in the verse' can stop me." I think it totally relates to what happens in Serenity when she kills all the Reavers. 😎
 
-I enjoyed the opening convo. between Simon and Shepard. I loved Simon's attitude and smart remarks..."What if they aren't near a volcano" 😀 That whole interaction did make me a little bit more suspicious of Shepard. There is something about him we just don't know yet...could be bad. Remember a few episodes back when he had some sort of unexplained in with the Alliance? Now he almost seems to be explaining their motives and/or fishing for details to see how much Simon knows. Makes we wonder if Shepard could somehow be with the Alliance and he is keeping an eye on River and Simon until they are ready for them.

-River and Kaylee playing was sweet. It's nice to see the two of themrelax and let their guards down.

-I KNEW IT!! The first three episodes I kept commenting/questioning if there there was something going on with Mal/Zoe. I totally sensed an odd Mal/Zoe/Wash dymanic, maybe I was off about it being romantic but I did mention how odd I thought it was that she seemed more loyal to her captain that her husband.


-I have mixed feelings about where I think this episode is heading. Clearly, Wash has some issues going on with Zoe and Mal. That's fine, but my problem with it isn't that it's being done, but rather that it just appeared out of nowhere. We've seen how great Joss can be with foreshadowing, so to have this whole jealousy arc materialize out of the blue is kind of odd (even though I love a Wash episode)

^ I get what you are saying, but I totally suspected something like this to happen the first few episodes. Zoe really seemed to prioritize the Captain over her husband. It wasn't until episode 8 that I started to doubt my suspensions about something odd between the Mal/Zoe/Wash dynamic.



The Mal/Zoe/Wash relationship I think has been brewing for a while. maybe not so much on a romantic front but there has been definate issues. Zoe's ''Not now dear'' comment to Wash when her and Mal are on a mission in a previous episode sticks out. It is almost like she dismisses Wash and just takes orders from Mal. I enjoyed watching the relationships sort themselves out. The scene with Mal and Zoe at the end was so obviously awkward and there was no romantic tension at all.

^ I totally agree, I've noticed her being dismissive of Wash when Mal gives orders from episode one.

One of my favourite parts is when Mal and Wash are getting electrocuted as Mal is threatening to sleep with Zoe. It's really touching when you realize Mal is just trying to keep Wash awake. 🙁

^ Yes! I loved that scene. So awesome to see just how much Mal cares about his crew; they really are like a family.


-It was funny to see everyone's face when they realized Inara's client was a female.

-Ummm Shepard sure does know a lot about weapon wounds....and how to use a weapon. When and where did he learn all that stuff?

-Not at all surprised Zoe picked Wash, perfect way to show him he is a priority; plus she knows he can't handle the torturer like Mal.

-Whoa River! Looks like you've been turned into the ultimate weapon...tiny secret you are keeping!

-I wonder why Kaylee is keeping what River did to herself. Seems like useful information, plus with her little crush on Simon you would think she would want to help him figure out what happened to River. I find it odd that she would keep this to herself.
 
-I wonder why Kaylee is keeping what River did to herself. Seems like useful information, plus with her little crush on Simon you would think she would want to help him figure out what happened to River. I find it odd that she would keep this to herself.

Maybe she was worried how the rest of the crew would react to it, maybe she was afraid they'd kick River and Simon off their ship or something? Or maybe she was just in shock. 😛
 
I wondered why Kaylee kept River's markmanship a secret, as well. Or at least I would have thought she would have asked River about it. It seemed like she was very awkward towards River after that.
 
I wondered why Kaylee kept River's markmanship a secret, as well. Or at least I would have thought she would have asked River about it. It seemed like she was very awkward towards River after that.

I think it scared the shit out of her!

-Whoa River! Looks like you've been turned into the ultimate weapon...tiny secret you are keeping!
I don't think she knew it herself.

When Mal says "Are you ready to meet the real me?!" or however he says it, reminds me of Caleb: "Are you ready to finish this bitch?!" Scary.
 
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