Facebook bans news in Australia

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What is Facebook without news? People and publishers in Australia are now finding out. Facebook (FB) has barred Australians from finding or sharing news on its service, a dramatic escalation of a fight with the government that may have wide-ranging consequences both in the country and around the world.

The social networking company on Wednesday said that people and publishers in Australia will no longer be able to share or see any news from local or international outlets. The decision appears to be the most restrictive move Facebook has ever taken against content publishers. The company's action comes after months of tension with the Australian government, which has proposed legislation that would force tech platforms to pay news publishers for content.

"What the proposed law introduced in Australia fails to recognize is the fundamental nature of the relationship between our platform and publishers," Campbell Brown, Facebook's vice president of global news partnerships, wrote in a blog post. "Contrary to what some have suggested, Facebook does not steal news content. Publishers choose to share their stories on Facebook."
"I hope in the future, we can include news for people in Australia once again," Brown added.

The decision effectively makes good on a threat Facebook made during a hearing in Australia's senate last month, when the company suggested it could block content in the country if the bill becomes law.

The news ban has already been met with confusion and criticism in the country. Fire and emergency services, domestic violence charities, state health agencies and other organizations said they were also affected by the restrictions, prompting outrage among those who said Facebook was restricting access to vital information. In response, the company has said it will reverse pages "inadvertently impacted" by its move. "These actions will only confirm the concerns that an increasing number of countries are expressing about the behaviour of Big Tech companies who think they are bigger than governments and that the rules should not apply to them," wrote Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison in a post on his own Facebook page, which did not appear to have been affected by the restrictions. "They may be changing the world, but that doesn't mean they run it."

Officials said the move came without prior warning from the company.
 
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ILLYRIAN
Now if I could give an angry smiley to CNN I would.
Makes you wonder what Facebook thinks it is, as far as I'm aware Facebook is just a social platform.

But Facebook has taken the attitude that any person who says anything on Facebook gives permission for that private conversation to be the property of Facebook. It isn't. Australia says any news that Facebook takes then Facebook has to pay for what it, in effect, steals.
If every other country in the world goes the same way as Australia Facebook will learn the hard way that it can't just take what ever it wants.

And just to clarify the situation Facebook has not stopped the news in Australia. The news will continue to happen, there are plenty of other avenues that can be taken they just need to be developed.

Why is it that I read of the report by CNN about the American firm of Facebook that it can do whatever it wants, well Australia has said pay for what you steal.
And when you take what is not given to you, that is a form of stealing.

There was a case not that long ago when a person took what person A said to person B on a mobile phone.
Facebook says the private chat between entity A and entity B is Facebooks property. If Facebook is going to say that to every country Facebook may get a backlash it will not be able to deal with, heck, it may have to pay up its full amount of tax.

Google is working with Australian entities, why not Facebook?
 
It's censorship.

People's thoughts are influenced by the information they access, if you control their access to information, then you control their thoughts.
 
But Facebook has taken the attitude that any person who says anything on Facebook gives permission for that private conversation to be the property of Facebook. It isn't.
Yes, it is. According to their Terms of Service, which no one bothers to read. Anything posted on Facebook is theirs to collect.

"We collect the content, communications and other information you provide when you use our Products, including when you sign up for an account, create or share content, and message or communicate with others. This can include information in or about the content you provide (like metadata), such as the location of a photo or the date a file was created. ...

We collect information about the people, Pages, accounts, hashtags and groups you are connected to and how you interact with them across our Products, such as people you communicate with the most or groups you are part of. We also collect contact information if you choose to upload, sync or import it from a device (such as an address book or call log or SMS log history), which we use for things like helping you and others find people you may know and for the other purposes listed below."
 
It's censorship.

People's thoughts are influenced by the information they access, if you control their access to information, then you control their thoughts.
I thought it was second hand news? If they can't get it from Facebook they can get it from source can't they? I'm not short of news and I don't use social media.
 
I thought it was second hand news? If they can't get it from Facebook they can get it from source can't they? I'm not short of news and I don't use social media.
Yeah, got to agree with this, can't say I've ever used social media for news unless I've been linked to it by someone else. Of course I also live under a rock, so I probably don't actually see what's posted on there anyway!
 
I also live under a rock, so I probably don't actually see what's posted on there anyway!
Especially if your rock is located in Australia.
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Scrolled through my Facebook, took me a while before I found anything news related, finally got a link to Fox news telling me that Rush Limbaugh died. Of course I have no idea who he is, but I found some news on Facebook!
 
@nightshade - I knew that! I'd have told you if you'd asked.

It's Australia - it's got a population a third the size of the UK. How much news do they need?
 
ILLYRIAN
ILLYRIAN
What The Heck, there's a country called UK, is it anywhere near Britain?
So, Australia stood up to Facebook. Now the world knows to what extent the American firm says it can control the worlds news. Facebook says one of its conditions for use was we own everything you put on our site. What if entities in the world decide that Facebook should change its conditions?
 
It's censorship.

People's thoughts are influenced by the information they access, if you control their access to information, then you control their thoughts.

Well not all censorship is bad. Besides there's more to this clearly. Without knowing much about it I would take Australia's side on this one. I think Facebook should be more about the social side of things than news or supposed news?
 
That was definitely the English Stonehenge as the green represents the green grass.
The grass over here in Australia is brown.
 
Facebook reverses ban on news pages in Australia


Facebook has announced it will restore news content to its users in Australia.

The tech giant has blocked news to Australians on its platform since last Thursday amid a dispute over a proposed law which would force it and Google to pay news publishers for content.

Australian Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said Facebook chief Mark Zuckerberg had told him the ban would end "in the coming days", after the pair had talks.

Mr Frydenberg said amendments would be made to the law.

"Facebook has re-friended Australia," he told reporters in Canberra on Tuesday.

The government has been debating the law - seen as a possible test case for regulation globally - in the Senate, after it was passed in the lower house last week.
 
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