Favorite dream?

Favorite dream?

  • Willow's

    Votes: 7 19.4%
  • Xander's

    Votes: 14 38.9%
  • Giles's

    Votes: 5 13.9%
  • Buffy's

    Votes: 10 27.8%

  • Total voters
    36

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I searched for a thread like this and didn't find one, but if I missed it, sorry!

Whose dream was your favorite in "Restless"?

Mine was Xander's. I think I felt most for him. The always coming back to the basement, the Buffy in the sandbox scene, even his way of death, I really clicked with it.
 
I liked Buffy's best. Even though her speech makes sod all sense you still find yourself wanting to go "Yeah! You tell her Buffy! No... bed of....bones... for you!" Which is ironic because all the perfect English speeches in S7 made me want to kill her.

Willow's a close second though, just because there's a very unsettling paranoia to it...
 
I think it was Willow's for me...or...Giles' mainly cuz of the song...

Urgghhh...I cant decide...I just know that Xander's was my least favourite!! Bo-ring!
 
My fave had to have been willow. It showed her insecurity of how she is. Sort of like she was still not complete about comming out. Plus I love the death of a sales men part were smg recites that long ol' line.
 
I liked Willow's-her fear that she's still a dork, Death of A Salesman (Men with your...SALES!), and Oz and Xander's banter (Sometimes when I think about witches doing spells together...) made it the one for me!
 
Jill_Valentine said:
I liked Buffy's best. Even though her speech makes sod all sense you still find yourself wanting to go "Yeah! You tell her Buffy! No... bed of....bones... for you!" Which is ironic because all the perfect English speeches in S7 made me want to kill her.

Willow's a close second though, just because there's a very unsettling paranoia to it...

I too liked Buffy's best, but about her S7 speeches, they might have been Nazi-like, but it was meant to show that she was the leader and she was to take these girls to war.
 
I liked Willow's dream, because it made me think. Also, the "Death of a Salesman" was hilarious. Riley, COWBOY guy....I laughed so hard. And Buffy's rant to him...absolutely marvy.
 
Slayer said:
I too liked Buffy's best, but about her S7 speeches, they might have been Nazi-like, but it was meant to show that she was the leader and she was to take these girls to war.


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Yeah, but after while they just got so over the top, they turned into self-parody. It's like... oh, Morpheus' speech in Reloaded. Meant to be inspirational, but done with such overblown language and gesturing, and hands-on-hips overearnestness I couldn't take it seriously. She's leading some of these girls to their deaths, all those patronising speeches just serve to make her detached to them. S7's constant emphasis on Buffy as a leader/ general/ dictator completely undermined what made her our hero. I was so sick of hearing the Lord of The Rings Powerchords by the end ... so sick of hearing Mini Duce rant at the potentials. It got to the point that I was going to mute if she looked like she was about to do the powerstance. She's one half of the only person in the world who can relate to these girls, why did she not use that to her advantage, and connect to the girls at ground level? She stopped talking to them, and never stopped talking at them.

"I'm beyond tired. I'm beyond scared. I'm standing on the mouth of hell, and it is gonna swallow me whole. And it'll choke on me. We're not ready? They're not ready. They think we're gonna wait for the end to come, like we always do. I'm done waiting. They want an apocalypse? Oh, we'll give 'em one. Anyone else who wants to run, do it now. 'Cause we just became an army. We just declared war. From now on, we won't just face our worst fears, we will seek them out. We will find them, and cut out their hearts one by one, until The First shows itself for what it really is. And I'll kill it myself. There is only one thing on this earth more powerful than evil, and that's us. Any questions?"

What the hell? That's a speech from the speechin' part of the brain, not the heart. Somebody who gives that kind of speech is somebody who has no connection to their "troops", somebody who understands the concept of what they're facing, not the reality. I loathe that Buffy. There was another Buffy once, and after seven words I would have followed her off the edge of the earth. She told Giles she was young, and afraid of dying. Simple sentiment. Simply expressed. Honest. Best line in the show. So why is it so wrong for her to let the girls know she was/is one of them, and is human, and isn't sure of herself? Short term damaging to morale, maybe, but a fairer way to treat kids you're asking to die for you. They picked a chain smoking, freezer raiding, frequently obnoxious multiple murderer over her, does that tell her nothing about her leadership skills?
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But thats just it.

Leaders can't bond with their constituents, atleast as history as told us. True leaders are separated from others, because they have to make decisions.

The potentials were just teenagers, like Buffy once, but she realized had to grow up and make decisions. Whether she was too hard or mean or longwinded, she was different from them.

I think Faith bonded with them because she wasn't their leader. Buffy's said it before, being the Slayer sorta made her cut herself off from others, because she was different.
 
BVTS was always at least partially anti authoritarian. For the First 5 seasons what it said to me was "Do the right thing, but do it your own way" Buffy has repeatedly defied "leaders" and done heroic things because of it. She defied Giles to face the Master, Joyce to face Angel, she actually blew up the town's Mayor, she took on the US Government, she took on a God. She detested the Council, Snyder, the PTB, MOO... Not necessarily pro-Anarchy, but she's always beem somebody who would never follow if she had a problem with the path. In S7 she demanded blind loyalty from her friends and the SITS, and then had the nerve to suggest that they were betraying her by questioning her judgement. She became the kind of leader she hated. Buffy's message by S7 - Some people are just Right. Do what they say - bothered me a little.
 
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JollyApe
Very good point indeed
I think i have to go with the other 7 people, Xanders, i really connected with it and it is most like mine and wasent totally rediculous like buffy's and willows and giles.
 
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