Fear itself

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Fear itself:

- Oz worries about Willow using magic. I never noticed that before, but he doesn't seem to like the idea. It upsets Willow that Oz worries about it, I guess she thinks that he doubts her abilities. The fact that Oz, Buffy and Willow herself doubt her abilities makes Willow angry and frustrated. That's one of the reasons she lashed out on Buffy at the frat house.

- Poor Xander. His friends don't notice he's around most of the time, not telling him about the party (which is expected since they're busy with college, and don't see him that often) not noticing that Xander is missing later, it was until Willow and Oz left that Buffy started to notice that, "hey, I thought we were four. Oh, right, Xander. Uh... where did he go?"

- I disliked when Buffy thought it was "typical" of Xander to get lost and get himself in danger. The way she harshly yelled at him when he was trembling and whispering his angry babble about the "jerks" ignoring his existence and opinions.

- Xander's idea of his friends: They don't notice him. They look down on him. They ignore his existence. Even though his friends play major part making him think that, Anya also makes Xander's insecurity grows when she implies that his friends are 'better than him'. When Oz said that Xander is a civilian, the guys in the frat house who thought he was "normal", started to ignore him and talk as if he wasn't there. "Hey, guys, standing right here," Xander angrily said.

- Giles is just cute and funny and adorable and has the best smile of them all.

- Anya is reminds me of Cordelia in a way. I guess she is Cordelia's replacement. Her character is kinda different from what she'll become in the later seasons. She's doesn't have that... adorable innocence yet. She's also very clingy of Xander. It is true that Anya clings to anything/anyone that comes along and lets her in. She needs something to worship and believe in, it used to be vengeance, now it's Xander.

- Willow's issues with Buffy being Mr. Boss starts from here. It's not OOC in S6 when she said that now she gets to be the slayer. She hates being the sidekick, because being the sidekick means being nothing, she wants to be something. She really hates the old Willow and looks down on her. Magic makes her more special.

- It's funny how Oz and Xander both feel helpless and troubled by the fit Willow and Buffy made. Both Xander and Oz played the rational, patient partners (Xander to Buffy, Oz to Willow).
 
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Great post! It's old, but very well said!
i thought Buffy was hilarious when she said it was so typical of him. That line had to be thrown in...

Oz was super cute when he's in the bath tub... can anyone explain why bath tubs are safe places... people go in them in danger all the time

in desperate housewives lynette did, and in i am legend he sat in it with his dog... and other examples you can think of yourself.
 
i thought Buffy was hilarious when she said it was so typical of him. That line had to be thrown in...

Oz was super cute when he's in the bath tub... can anyone explain why bath tubs are safe places... people go in them in danger all the time

in desperate housewives lynette did, and in i am legend he sat in it with his dog... and other examples you can think of yourself.

Maybe because they're small and you know exactly where the dimensions are, so it feels safe. Also, we're taught to hide in the tub during an earthquake because the pipes in the walls will hold that part of the building together better than the rest of the building.
 
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thanks ive always wondered why its a safe place.
Fear Itself was a great episode not just for the end, but for the themes it represents of friends going off to college/University.
 
I really liked it, it even had a Star Wars reference.

I didn't get the Buffy comment about Xander when he goes missing, maybe if she thinks its typical that he's not around she should quit playing tonsil hockey with vampires and captain cardboard and realize there is another male who's almost always around her, maybe she should start actually looking.

Over all great episode, Oz's name tag was classic!

I love the halloween episodes!
 
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Yes, Oz and Buffy (and Giles and Xander) are worried about Willow's magic use, but we seen in this episode that Willow secretly fears that they are right.

There are obvious similarities between "Fear Itself" and "Nightmares". However, Buffy's fear in this episode is much more convoluted than turning into a vampire or being buried alive. Obviously, her fear of being alone is what we are first presented with (along with Xander's fear of being invisible 'didn't-go-to-college-boy'). We see her surrounded by the dead, and a corpse tells her that she's not alone. I always took this to mean that, in addition to Buffy's fear that she won't be able to have positive relationships, Buffy fears that being the slayer means that she will always be fighting. Maybe I'm looking to deeply into it.

Of course Giles in a poncho and sombrero was priceless. Also, I heart chainsaw-wielding Giles.

Buffy: There's no problem that cannot be solved by chocolate.
Willow: I think I'm gonna barf.
Buffy: Except that.
 
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Obviously, her fear of being alone is what we are first presented with (along with Xander's fear of being invisible 'didn't-go-to-college-boy'). We see her surrounded by the dead, and a corpse tells her that she's not alone. I always took this to mean that, in addition to Buffy's fear that she won't be able to have positive relationships, Buffy fears that being the slayer means that she will always be fighting. Maybe I'm looking to deeply into it.

I always took it to mean that she WILL be alone (separated from her friends, family, etc) and only surrounded by death and violence, which is a big fear of Buffy's - she's always afraid that she's losing her humanity, won't be able to have normal relationships, etc etc.
 
Fear, Itself is one of my all time favorite episodes, mostly for the humor. I think there is just some fantastic writing in this episode and I love quoting parts of it. It's in my top ten.
 
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*hey, check it out I found the right thread 😛*
Okay so in the middle of rewatching this and I'd kinda forgotten how underratedly scary some of the stuff in this ep was. When Xander's all invisible and he's all "noone can see me" then that decapitated head with bulging eyes says, "I can see you..." That was creepy! And also with Buffy the guy with his neck all broken kinda gave me the genuine creeps too.

And on a completely unrelated note, how effing cool is Giles wth the chainsaw? Seriously!

This ep has never been one of m y top favorites but tonight I freaking LOVED it. The extreme funnyness that was this re-sealed the deal for me:

(Xander stares at Anya casually trying to figure her out)
Anya: (noticing the staring) What?
Xander: (points) That's your scary costume?
Anya: Bunnies frighten me.

brilliant.
 
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I couldn't have said it better! I completely agree.... Especially about the guy with the broken neck... :( CREEPY!
My feelings towards the episode is mixed. I do like Xander's parts, not because he is hurt, but because it shows HOW he feels- Ignored, and left out. The Zeppo.

Buffy, however, did not muse me(it happens a lot a times, when she pissed me off with her attitude!).
 
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pretty strong episode, i loved seeing the scoobies out together again, anya was classic in this as was giles with the chainsaw lol, oh willow understands gaelic apparently that was interesting, some good xander anya moments especially that pretty humorous speech "those people u continue to associate with them yet u share little in common", cool eppy
 
"That's your scary costume?" (Xander does his funny finger thing)
"Bunny's frigthen me"

"Who's a little fear demon? Come on."
"Don't taunt the fear demon.."
"Why, can he hurt me?"
"No...It's just tacky"
 
yeah i love xander....s expression and licking of the chocolate at anyas costume. I think his mannerisms even with simple lines make the simple lines really funny, plus anya trying to walk in that outfit and her worry for Xander, totally couldnt give 2 hoots about anyone else.

the ep gets extra points for Zack from mighty morphin power rangers.
 
started out promising, with some creepy moments.


the ending was quite disappointing.


The ending was a very clever message that we build our fears up out of either nothing or very little. 😉

Also, after some sleuthing I found the source of the page on Gachnar. The page of text displayed at the end of "Fear Itself" is from Witchcraft, Magic and Alchemy by Emile Grillot de Givry (1874"”1929). The prop used the same page, IIRC, but replaced the Figure 137 with the pic of Gachnar.

HERE

It looks like fascinating reading!
 
My favourite part is definitely:

Willow: I'm Joan of Arc. I figured we had a lot in common, seeing as how I was almost burned at the stake. And plus she had that close relationship with God.
Xander: [to Oz] And you are...?
[Oz reveals a name tag saying "GOD"]
Xander: Of course.
Xander: Wish I'd thought of that before I put down my deposit. I could've been God.
Oz: Blasphemer.
 
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There were all sorts of little things that I've noticed on this viewing. Frex, they made Xander's ears glow red in one scene, just the same way that they made Pr. Snyder's ears glow in The Puppet Show. And why was "skeleton-guy" wearing a wig??? What possible purpose did that serve in the programme? The plot thickens...
 
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