Fear of Scoxit?

[GwenRaiden]

The Tories won't be in power forever though.

My point is they won't ever have any power in Scotland again.

Think there are bigger things in play than who happens to be in power right now.

Not for a lot of Scottish people. Scottish people who have had to endure some of the worst of the Tories policies when they never voted for them.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

My point is they won't ever have any power in Scotland again.

Considering Edinburgh is the U.K.'s second largest financial center you would have thought that they would have said and done things to keep them happy. Especially if Scotland would be allowed to remain in the EU you could see banks leaving London and moving to Edinburgh.

 

[thetopher]

Especially if Scotland would be allowed to remain in the EU you could see banks leaving London and moving to Edinburgh.

The majority of the Scottish-based banks have already said that if Scotland leaves the UK then they'll migrate down to London, not the other way round. The EU is the EU but London is still a global financial player.
Plus banks like dealing with the pound more than the euro- at least for now.

As for Scotland being in the EU that's far from a certainty. Apparently Scotland would have to reapply to join, and to reapply to join NATO as well, if they left the UK.

 

[DeadlyDuo]

Sturgeon only cares about what she wants rather than what's best for Scotland. If they have a second referendum, they're going to need to have a third one to make it best out of 3. It's not fair for the SNP to go "We didn't get the result we wanted in the last referendum so we're going to throw another one" then if they do get the result they want, to go "We're going to stick with this result, it's what the people wanted!". The opposition would then go "Well, hold on, we think there should be another referendum to give the people a chance to change their minds".

 

[nightshade]

Sturgeon only cares about what she wants rather than what's best for Scotland.

And yet the two board members that are Scottish @Bluebird and @GwenRaiden have both said the opposite!

I think they should get a second one, things have changed considerably since the last one, and it's clear that leaving the EU isn't something that the Scottish people want.

 

[Foxy]

I think it is fair that they do another ref, because the brexit vote was so extremely divided and Westminister has basically ignored the Scots throughout this entire process so far.

An amazing example is that the parliament has rejected the Scottish a right to vote on another ref. What do you mean equal distribution of power?

 

[RomanticSoul]

The EU is a sinking ship anyway. And should the impossible happen and Le Pen/Wilder win the elections, the EU will quickly go the way of the Titanic. But a new referendum probably won't happen until after all the elections this year.

 

[thetopher]

Scottish MP's get to vote in Westmister. They aren't being ignored.
Shockingly Scottish MP's still get to vote on policies that only affect the rest of the UK, even when asked not to.

 

[ILLYRIAN]

It might be a good idea for Scotland to stay part of Britain. The way America is going many country's of the world will begin to ignore America in two or three years. So another country will need to take over, do you want that to be China or Russia? With Britain not being in Europe it could step up to fill the void. Sure there are a lot of ifs, buts and maybes to pass before then, but do you really want to shoot yourself in the foot if it isn't necessary.

 

[Ethan Reigns]

A lot of this sounds like the multiple Quebec referenda where the province of Quebec was trying to leave Canada and set itself up as its own country. The fairy tale they used to sell the idea was that Quebec has about the same population as Switzerland so they should end up equally prosperous. The reality is mandated use of the French language and enough corruption to make a third-world border guard blush, both of which has led to capital fleeing the province and this would get worse if they split. I see the Scotland vote going the same way - regular attempts to hold a referendum based on changing conditions. For both Quebec and Scotland, separation would have been disastrous. If you start asking, "How could it possibly get worse in Scotland?", just leave the UK and you will find out. There would be a balance of payments problem, a lack of industry and structural problems of governance, currency and a passport needed to enter England or Northern Ireland and a visa needed to work there. Think you have it bad now? It can get worse.

The EU finally recognizes that there is enough trouble to sink the entire EU empire and they will be meeting on March 25 to spitball ideas about how to make the EU look like a good idea, but they will be a day late and a euro short. Besides, there are separatist forces in Belgium between the French and the Dutch that could split the country and Spain is looking at the defection of Catalonia (the eastern part of Spain containing Barcelona) and Euskal Herria, the Basque land in the north. Nationalist forces in France and Germany will object to their taxes carrying financially underperforming countries on the Mediterranean. The EU will go the way of the Holy Roman Empire, a footnote in history with a promising start and a botched execution, just like Season 7 of Buffy.

 

[YummySushiPJs]

10/13. And I watched it last night. I have no excuses *hangs head in shame*.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

10/13. And I watched it last night. I have no excuses *hangs head in shame*.

I have a suspicion that you may have posted this in the wrong thread. That head needs to hang in shame, yo!

 

[YummySushiPJs]

LOL!! 😱😳😳😳

FML... I give up! 😀

 

[Skanky Vamp]

@GwenRaiden Your comment to @YummySushiPJs LOL 4Realz

 

[Anyanka Bunny Slayer]

And yet the two board members that are Scottish @Bluebird and @GwenRaiden have both said the opposite!

And I must say, it's both amusing and irksome to read all of the "expert opinions" on this entire matter. Not to be rude or confrontational, but unless you're actually living in Scotland, you simply cannot understand what's going on...and as you see, I have nothing else to say about this, because I'm NOT there anymore.

 

[DeadlyDuo]

Considering Scoxit will affect the rest of the UK in some form, people living in the UK are entitled to give their opinions on it.

 

[Anyanka Bunny Slayer]

Considering Scoxit will affect the rest of the UK in some form, people living in the UK are entitled to give their opinions on it.

I never said you shouldn't. I said it was amusing.

 

[The Bronze]

 

[YummySushiPJs]

Yep. Pretty much.

Scotland wanted a lot more control over its own country - hence the referendum.

England (Westminster) panicked at the last minute before the referendum and promised Scotland a lot more power over matters that affect it.

England voted to leave the EU. Scotland voted to stay. England said "F*ck what you want, we're ALL leaving." Flying the face of their previous promise.

Theresa May has handled this so badly that I 100% agree with many Scottish people's desire for another referendum.

 

[Anyanka Bunny Slayer]

Scottish MP's get to vote in Westmister. They aren't being ignored.
Shockingly Scottish MP's still get to vote on policies that only affect the rest of the UK, even when asked not to.

Why is it shocking? The whole concept of a "United Kingdom" (and I stress the word concept) is that it's "subjects" are part of a whole; I see no reason why the Scottish MP's shouldn't vote on UK policies.