Feelings of being backed into a corner

[Hero]

Ok, billie, not who I'm looking for, but while we're at it, sure. Lets give examples of what I'm complaining about.

 

[BillieHunter]

Heh, and you still don't get it do you?

You are all up in arms about me being supposedly mean and rude (did we take a trip back in time to kindergarden?) and yet in your rather unwarranted retaliation, you have all been FAR ruder and meaner than me. Irony congratulates you on your first meeting.

"I'm speaking for everyone hear who's been put down for no reason or because they were brave enough to post their opinion."

HERO FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

Yea...but posting your opinion ok...but don't be rude about it...and that's what I've seen so often lately...people being rude about disagreeing...and Hero just feels strongly about this and has gotten to the point where he's just plain sick of it. I know...because I feel the same way as him.

 

[shekinah]

Heh, how exactly was that rude? You people are WAAAY too fragile... if anything, I should be the injured party - this guy makes a thread to protest my existence and I'm supposed to be nice to him? I've not cussed him out or anything like that. I've been slightly sardonic, but that's it.

 

[BillieHunter]

Heh, how exactly was that rude? You people are WAAAY too fragile... if anything, I should be the injured party - this guy makes a thread to protest my existence and I'm supposed to be nice to him? I've not cussed him out or anything like that. I've been slightly sardonic, but that's it.

I'm not saying that exact post was rude. Sorry if you tok that the wrong way. I'm just saying that you said you were standing up for people who posted their opinion. And I referred to the incidences where people have been rude abotu it. In no way referring to that post, just used what you said about posting your opinion.

 

[Jenny]

Arguing back and forth in this thread is not going to accomplish anything at all. You're just bringing what's happening into a thread where people are voicing opinions that they also have felt attacked.

We understand that, and it's currently being addressed. I would ask that you all trust the staff enough to take care of this and please do not sink to a lower level by fighting back.

Opinions have been voice and that's always good. I would ask if you have further problems, PM the staff.

 

[Kazby]

I see everyone's points here. But I agree Alyssa, you can voice your opinion but don't be rude about it. The whole point of the thread is to do something about the rudeness here.
I think we should have a calm, civilized discussion about this.
That's just my suggestion, you can completely disregard it, or you could consider it.

I have too also thought about leaving once or twice. But then I just said 'hey, I'm not gonna let these people ruin this experience for me'.

 

[BillieHunter]

Yea...but I just feel like I'm at the point where arguing is the only way to get my point across. But I feel I got my point across now, and I would like to say that I'm glad that it's being addressed. Thank you.

 

[Hero]

Shenikah - I'm not attacking just you in this post. It's lots of people, and they know who they are.

Jenny - I had originally made this thread to voice my, and other peoples, concerns about the lack of respect on this board. You can see how one person can change the mood of a whole thread and that's what I'm trying to show everyone. I had no problem with any of the people (shenikah included) until I started reading his posts and seeing how rude and disrespectful they are. Billiehunter volenteered to go get some posts from other "bad" threads, and I thought that might be helpful. I know that it's hard being a mod, so now wanna try and make this as least confrentational as possible so it's not as hard for you.

 

[shekinah]

Haha...Frankly, I don't care if this gets me banned but it simply MUST be said - you are sooo lame. You sooo did make this post about me, and now that it has turned on you, you are trying to crawl your way out of it.

You were made to look a fool in the Matrix thread, and this one didn't pan out much better for you...

You talk about being disrespectful and rude? Why not take a look at yourself. You started a thread about ME, to protest my presence on this board hoping to get other members to rally around your uninformed opinions (see matrix thread) and get some sort of mob mentality going. YOU are the bully.

 

[Hero]

This thread has not been turned on me. It was a nice reasonable discussion between other people until you showed up. Yeah. I did attack you. I even put that in the thread starting post. I know I did and I'm proud I did. Because it's people like you who need to know that you're not gunna get away with being rude to everyone. I'm backing down because I don't want to be giving the mods a problem. They do enough on the board and shouldn't have to go around and start deleting stuff. I'm backing down because I don't want Jenny sitting there thinking she's not doing the right thing. Because she's watching over this and can't really do anything. Jenny's a great girl. I'm backing down so she doesn't have to be stressed. I asked that you PM me so we could discuss it, but since you didn't, I made this thread.

 

[BillieHunter]

This post is in no way directly attacking you. it's in refernce to all the people who have been rude. And they probably knwo who they are. maybe yes, you were one of those people. But not the ONLY one. And there you go being rude again. He's lame? We take things to personally. Look at what your saying shekinah. You think this was ONLY about you. When it wasn't. You were saying you respect people with an opinion. Hero feels he has to resort to this, and yet here we are again...arguing back and forth. With you calling him lame. That is in no way mature or respectful.

 

[shekinah]

Yeah right dude. In the matrix thread you were all "Yeah, I'm an asshole", being all up in my face. All of a sudden theres been a complete U-Turn and you're kissing ass because you KNOW you acted like an ass. Disgusting.

 

[BillieHunter]

My god. Maybe he got a little angry, but now he's trying to be civilized about it. Can't you just appreciate the effort, and back down also, cause the mods don't need this.

 

[Hero]

I'm trying to talk to you reasonably so I don't want to bother the mods! Is that not thinking in with you? I've calmed down. I asked you to PM me so we didn't bother the boards with our little disagreement, but no, you had to regect my offering. So now here we are. And look who's kissing ass? I think you're doing that by trying to look like a victim! I've talked to certain mods (but i cant say who without permission) and they know you and how you act towards people. They know me too. I've PM'ed them with problems I've had with members. But you're a different story. And this thread hasn't taken a u turn. Cordy_Chase and you isn't a u turn.

 

[ChasingCharisma]

I've been on the board all of a month and I see things like this all the time and ya know what? That's like every single board on the entire internet. I think most people get mad about "flame wars" because they try to start a fight and then realize the person they are sparring with is more wittier/intelligent than they are. Why not learn to let it go? No matter how many rules you have against it/How many people you ban/How many times you say "this will not be tolerated"...it'll never end. Why? It's part of life. That is unless everyone other than me is living in a super, happy nice nice land. On this board or any board I am involved in you'll never see me in these types of arguments because I learned to let things go...but once again that may be my age speaking. :love17: :smoke2:

How old ARE you . . . ahem! ---Anyway, I concur. Though I'm a self-declared hot-blooded ape myself, I still try to maintain a modicum of decor. Besides, it's not really impressive laying one's thing down in cyberspace. Ultimately, very few people will care. It's even more doubtful that history will take note . . . so thanks to my megalomania, I won't start a fight unless it means world conquest! :: wacko :

 

[BillieHunter]

I've been on the board all of a month and I see things like this all the time and ya know what? That's like every single board on the entire internet. I think most people get mad about "flame wars" because they try to start a fight and then realize the person they are sparring with is more wittier/intelligent than they are. Why not learn to let it go? No matter how many rules you have against it/How many people you ban/How many times you say "this will not be tolerated"...it'll never end. Why? It's part of life. That is unless everyone other than me is living in a super, happy nice nice land. On this board or any board I am involved in you'll never see me in these types of arguments because I learned to let things go...but once again that may be my age speaking.

But this boards was never like that when I joined...which is why I have problems getting over it. I loved this place because it was different from other boards. The people were so nice and respectful, and most still are. But a few, as I said earlier, can ruin it for everyone.

 

[Kazby]

When I came here, this place was so open and welcoming and friendly and respectful. And it still is. But we don't need people coming in and being rude, disrespectful, and making other people's stay here miserable. I've been here all of a month and this place has changed. The mod's don't deserve crap like this. We all need to just calm down, TRY to have a civilized conversation (even though that has been tried already).
This was the first and only Buffy board I've ever been a part of. And I picked this one because I thought this place was great to come and chat with other people about Buffy and Angel. I, and I'm sure a lot of other people, don't want this great of a place to change.
The mods here are working their butts off trying to make this place friendly and welcoming, and they really don't need people trying to ruin that.

 

[Angels baby101]

woah man BB has become a war zone... I've been here almost like 2 years now and i have seen some pretty disrespectful memembers and very polite responsible hard posting members in my time here... But its gotten really bad lately I mean i haven't really read any of shekinah's posts except in here and from i can tell you do make some pretty snide remarks towards Hero... And i've read tons of his posts Many of his personal posts and From what i have read and from what i can tell he has had a pretty hard past couple of months but i have never really seen him as being rude or anything of the sort i've only seen him being polite and respectful of other members there have been maybe twice i've seen him get snappy with a memeber or two but I dont get how you can say he is rude he's one of the nicest memebers on BB i just had to say that and i mean this is comming from someone who doesn't even talk to him at all....Maybe you both need to keep all your comments about each other to yourselfs and ignore each other instead of fighting or try to get a mod to help you guys settle your differances?

 

[SlayerThe]

I agree BillieHunter. Out of all the Buffy related boards on the web, I have found this to be generally the best (design, content, ect.). Not to mention that the admins and mods are the best, other boards have quite rude and Hitler-like admins.

But I have to go with the cardinal rule at this point, if you even have the slightest doubt that a comment will offend someone, DO NOT POST IT. Don't turn this into a Jerry Springer-eque board, its meant to be a family orientated place where people can speak their minds (though not in a derogatory tone) and not get harassed.

Just play nice and have fun, but not the kind of fun that spoils it for others.

 

[Jill_Valentine]

I'm a member of another forum where the admin has been absent for nearly 3 years now. We're reasonably sure the guy is dead. Which means 3 years of a running forum without any form of administration/ moderation. Trolls get bored because we ignore them, and rude posters get unpopular fast. That's all it takes for a board to run smoothly. Public threads like this is prolong the cycle... if you have a problem with a specific poster then creating a thread about them is drawing the rest of the forum into an unbalanced whinging match...