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So, Joss is doing a new show. Has anybody seen it? Do you think it will blow up like Buffy did? Do you think it will be anything like Buffy? Let me know your thoughts.

Personally, I don't think I will watch it. It's just not my genere(sp?). I watched part of an episode and from what I see.. I definitely wont be tuning in.

So, what do you think?

For those of you who don't know what it's about.. here is info from Fox.

Story

Set 500 years in the future in the wake of a universal civil war, FIREFLY tells the tale of Serenity, a small transport spaceship without a homeport. Captain Malcolm ("Mal") Reynolds commands Serenity for legitimate transport and salvage runs, as well as more "entrepreneurial" endeavors.

On Serenity, crew and passengers live together in close quarters as they shuttle between the Alliance-governed galaxy and the border planets that delineate the new frontier. The crew undertakes almost any job -- legal or not -- to stay afloat and put bread on the table. Each of the passengers has his or her own motivation for being on board - some honorable, some more questionable. All have unique pasts and different reasons for wanting to get to their destination.

Serenity and its crew flies to the border planets, many of which are barely inhabited, because they want to stay away from the Alliance and below its big radar. Thrust together by necessity, the disparate men and women of Serenity face constant challenges, which test and reveal their true identities. FIREFLY is about their unpredictable lives and relationships, as well as their search for meaning in a very uncertain time.
 
I've watched it,simply because it's Joss. And I really really like it. It definately has that Joss feeling to it; humor intermingled with drama, and if it was anybody else's show, one could say that it that had already been done. But the story is compelling, and the writing is sharp and the show is very compelling. So I give it two thumbs up.
 
OMG, I love that show. It's so good, I too had to watch it because it was Joss but it's great. I mean the whole actual western thing in space is awsome. You guys should definately watch it, its so good.
 
Woo!! Another Firefly fan! Has Firefly discussion boards been popping up? I missed the ending of the episode where the Alliance was after River and I need to know what happened!!!
 
So far, I really like Firefly. I don't love it. Well, not yet, anyway.🙄 I still have to watch the whole episode 1.03 Our Mrs. Reynolds. I have it on tape, I just haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Football, or some sport, has been on for the past couple weeks on FOX so Firefly hasn't been on. I almost missed Our Mrs. Reynolds because it was on around 4pm one Saturday, but I managed to find out and tape it just in time. But there is an all new one on tomorrow, and I can't wait to watch it! Holy crap, look at that ramble.😉
 
I missed the entire episode. I went to the mall with my friends and completely forgot. It made me sad. But that was still freaky at the end of the first episode when she's all two by two hands of blue. But on the fan forums they have a firefly section and you can find some links there too. I'm getting all of my friends to watch it and stuff. But it is a great show and all of you should watch it.

http://www.forums4fans.com
 
'Our Mrs. Reynolds' was an awesome episode ^_^ I can't wait for Jaynestown tomorrow...sadly I have to work, so my VCR is my best friend currently.
 
Was Our Mrs. Reynolds the one where they pick up that girl (Trying to not give too much away)? Was that the last ep? I didn't see it last week because a ballgame was on. Was there ho new ep last week>
 
I didn't think there was an ep last week cause of the ballgame. Yeah 'Our Mrs. Renolds' was the one where they picked up the girl. And Jayne wiht his gun, that was the funniest thing. But tonight there is a new ep tonight (friday). It'll be great.
 
I just watched tonights episode, 'Jaynestown'. It is my favorite episode so far. Lots of good humor for once. And I saw a preview for next week's which looks even better. Very suspenseful.😎
 
Oh my gosh, tonight's (10/25) episode was so great!! I sat there glued to my chair. Fantastic story telling!! I loved how they intermingled the three different time periods. Very involving!! Yay for Firefly!!
 
It's a good show, really Joss-style, too bad it's not aired in Holland, and strangely enough, 1.04 "Jaynestown" isn't on the net yet.
 
Last night's ep was great. I was so sad and it was really funny seeing Wash with the mustashe. And Zoe jsut didn't like him. But we didnt' see how Book came to the ship, or did we and I missed it. Both Chris and Garrett called me and I'm like busy watching Firefly. But it was so sad how I thought he was gonna die and then they came and it was beautiful. I really liked the way you saw the stories in chunks. Very nicely done.
 
'Firefly' news...

It doesn't look good, folks! However, it should be noted that they haven't given up on finding a new home for the show....yet.



http://www.buffistas.org/showthread.php?thread_id=13&post_id=7711


A message from Joss Whedon, December 13, 2002, 7:49:36 am EST

Four AM. Can't sleep. Who'd have thought?

There's a couple of things I'd like to say. And a few things I really can't. First of all, I'm prouder of this show and the people I worked with on it than I can express in words, monkey noises, or hyroglyphics. I believe this has been some fairly great TV. And the experience of making it... I've had crew members who've been working for 20 years say they've never worked around such excitement, support and love. You walk on that set, you're transported. The cast: 9 count 'em 9 incredibly talented actors who are all decent, wonderful people. This phenomenon cannot be explained by science.

Second of all, don't think for a second that I have given up on this show. I think it has been mistreated shamefully, but the Fox network has indicated that they would not stand in the way (which they can) of my finding a new home for the show. That's no easy prospect. But I will do everything in my power, as always, to keep this bird in the air. Of course I'll post if there's any news.

But even if the show goes back up elsewhere, I'm going to lose a good portion of my crew. Production will halt, they'll need to find new jobs. You can't imagine how that feels. How much they brought to the table, how hard and well they worked. And their Christmas bonus is this. As much as the cast, the staff, and my not so secret lover Minear, I honor those guys, and hope to get them back on board.

So for now, I proudly take my place beside Profit, The Ben Stiller Show, the Tick, and Action. But I won't rest until I've found safe harbour (no, not the Gregory Harrison show) for this vessel.

I've got the time.

It ain't like I'm sleeping.



-joss.
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Well, it's official. After much speculation, Firefly has been cancelled.

Tim had the following to say, "We did get word tonight, Fox won't be ordering any new eps. That translates to 'cancelled.' We will finish shooting the ep now in production (I'm directing, in fact Joss came down to the set to break the bad news to cast and crew -- we wrapped early, but are back at it in the am), we'll finish post on all eps, and Fox says they're going to somehow air all eps."

But we're not giving up yet. Please continue to check Firefly: Immediate Assistance for updates on the campaign to ressurect Firefly.
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Firefly vs. the Firing Squad
by Jason Snell - December 13, 2002

Having worn out its welcome on Friday nights, Firefly -- Joss Whedon's sci-fi follow-up to Buffy and Angel -- is being cancelled. Although it will disappear from the airwaves in a couple of weeks, Fox executives promise that it will return later for one final set of airings. However, let's keep in mind that these are the same Fox executives who proudly promised new fall series The Grubbs and Septuplets last May. Seen any episodes of those shows lately?

So Firefly a terminal case, and it's easy to understand why. Its ratings are in the tank, at least as far as Fox is concerned, even though more people are apparently watching Firefly than either Buffy or Angel. And numerous critics (and presumably viewers) gave up on the show after a lackluster first episode mandated by Fox after the network nixed the show's original pilot.

But here's the nasty little secret: Firefly is an absolutely brilliant show, perhaps the best sci-fi show on television today -- and certainly the one with the most potential for future brilliance. In the weeks since its weak opening episodes, the series has run off a string of seven strong shows that would be the envy of any other TV show on the air today.

This summer, it appeared that Whedon's Mutant Enemy production company had bitten off more than it could chew. Buffy was in disarray after a creatively disastrous season; Angel was reeling from the loss of showrunner David Greenwalt and lukewarm support from the Buffy-less WB network; and Firefly's pilot had been sent back to the kitchen. It looked like Whedon and his gang had overplayed their hand; the results weren't going to be pretty, and in the end it looked like the TV wunderkind was going to have plenty of spare time in which to write that stage musical or screenplay that he'd always been meaning to get to during Buffy downtime.

But a funny thing happened on the way to the charnel house. Whedon and his creative team proved that, far from being one-hit wonders, they're some of the best talents working in television today. Buffy has rebounded with what might be its best season in four years, and Angel has so thrived on its own that The WB is moving it to Wednesday nights in hopes that it can clean up the pile of leather and mascara left behind by Birds of Prey.

And then there's Firefly. Perhaps the show's toughest sell, judging from its first few episodes, is that it's sort of a western. Set on other planets and in outer space, sure, but with jangly country-western music and dusty frontiers populated by cows, horses, and dirty men in overalls who actually say "dadgummit."

Only after a dozen episodes does Firefly's depth and versatility really show through. In past weeks, the show has managed to slide between taut locked-in-a-spaceship drama, wacky old-west-cotillion shenanigans, and a terrifyingly violent confrontation in a sterile high-tech medical facility. This show that seemed to have painted itself into a corner with its images of horses and dust bowls turns out to actually have a remarkably broad canvas, with highly industrialized "core planets" straight out of standard sci-fi, as well as poor, low-tech backwoods worlds that rely on incoming starships the way an old west town would wait for the stagecoach to arrive. And given the series' striking use of Mandarin as well as English, one can only assume that there are some Chinese cultures out there to explore as well.

Filling out the canvas is Firefly's ensemble, a stage-choking nine members strong. Are you like me? Do you see a show with a half-dozen characters and start having trouble telling them apart? Like those three interchangeable guys on Enterprise, who are exactly the same character except that one of them is black and one is English.

Enterprise only has seven characters. But Firefly, loaded up with two more characters than your standard Trek ensemble, accomplishes something that I never thought possible: each character is well-defined, can't be mistaken for a different character, and has traits that contribute to making the show fun to watch. Holding it all together is Nathan Fillion as Captain Malcolm Reynolds, no longer one of those guys with the girl at the pizza place. Instead, he's playing the lovable rogue who's, to his chagrin, actually a Hero with a capital H. Reynolds is far from perfect, and is certainly not above thievery -- in fact, he and his crew seem to make most of their living by stealing -- yet when there's a moral decision to be made, he's always on the side of good.

The other characters include a rare married couple (whose marriage is, in many ways, portrayed more realistically than most non sci-fi shows), a fugitive pretty-boy doctor and his mentally ill savant sister, a high-class call girl, a cute-as-a-button grease-monkey engineer, and a preacher with a mysterious past (played by the fantastic Ron Glass of Barney Miller fame).

And then there's the topper: Adam Baldwin's portrayal of Jayne. Jayne is everything that Reynolds is not: dishonorable, rude, and cowardly. If Whedon's learned anything from his previous shows, it's that a series regular who stands in opposition to his other characters works wonders. An anti-character can make your other characters look more heroic in comparison, and is pretty damned good with the comic relief as well. And although this bearded lummox with a tendency to steal from his crewmates seems pretty far removed from Charisma Carpenter's cheerleader queen in the early years of Buffy, they serve identical purposes.

Even if Firefly is being snuffed out, it's still a milestone for Joss Whedon and his team. Stripped of his sly pop-culture references by the show's far-future setting, Whedon has proven that he can write hilarious comedy mixed with equal parts character drama and bang-up suspense. Buffy was no fluke. The people at Mutant Enemy can make great TV, and with appalling consistency.
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I haven't ever watched it! *ducks for cover* I wanted too, but it came on Friday nights and thats when we had football games and since I'm in the band I had to play. No one at my house would tape it for me. Boo 🙁 I really wanted to see it. I still do but I'm so lost.
 
This is really too bad. Firefly is a great show. I'm really hoping that WB or UPN will pick it up, since they don't expect the ratings that FOX does; with the potential discontinuation of Buffy, maybe UPN will want to continue on with ME's creations, or maybe WB will realize what a great thing it has in Whedon's show. Anyway, here's hoping that someone picks it up!
 
I really want someone to pick it up. It was such a great show, the cast was wonderful and the story lines were very Joss. It makes me sad, but hopefully someone will see its potential.
 
"This is Captain Reynolds of the Firefly Serenity"¦ We're dead in the water. Our support system is down, and we're breathing on empty. If you are in range of my voice, I'm asking that you heed your better angels and answer this call. We only have a few hours left... We require immediate assistance. Repeat. Require immediate assistance."

If you want to help Firefly, please check out Firefly: Immediate Assistance. We're currently in the process of a letter writing/postcard sending campaign to UPN to pick up the show (since Joss said he's "shopping" around for other networks, and he seems to have a lot of clout at UPN).

If you're not a fan, please help out not only the fans of this amazing show, but Joss himself, by signing these two petitions: Save Firefly and Continue Firefly.

Serenity will keep flying!
 
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