Flooded

Bored of the Dead said:
In real world terms Buffy was unable to be wih Angel because of the networks, but if we suspend belief for a moment and that was the real world, if Angel had known Buffy was in Heaven, do you really see it possible the events happened as they did.
It just doesn't work.
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Even if they had been on the same networks he still would have been going back to L.A. and she was still going back to Hell, as she saw it, so yeah I do think it still would have played out the same way, unless we go completely mental and make it that Buffy goes to L.A. or Angel comes back to Sunnydale.
 
And again with the whole true-to-the-characters thing. You think Angel WOULDN'T come back after finding out everything Buffy was going through? He who professes to have only been in love with her EVER? If he was a real, feeling person, he would have come back at least long enough to get her back on her feet--and at the rate Buffy was going, it would have taken awhile.

But in the "outer" view, the networks couldn't let that happen and the writers had already played out the Buffy-Angel thing and needed to move the characters forward instead of back. Hence the not-showing and the assumption that the meeting, while it may have been "intense," was not as mushy as people may think it was.
 
Blondie Bear said:
And again with the whole true-to-the-characters thing. You think Angel WOULDN'T come back after finding out everything Buffy was going through? He who professes to have only been in love with her EVER? If he was a real, feeling person, he would have come back at least long enough to get her back on her feet--and at the rate Buffy was going, it would have taken awhile.

But in the "outer" view, the networks couldn't let that happen and the writers had already played out the Buffy-Angel thing and needed to move the characters forward instead of back. Hence the not-showing and the assumption that the meeting, while it may have been "intense," was not as mushy as people may think it was.
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If you want to talk 'out of character' we can go right back to 'Forever'. Like you said, she was the only person he loved EVER and she begs him to stay and he doesn't? yeah that makes sense. I honestly think he would have known about the Heaven thing and like you said it doesn't make sense that he would just leave her go, so thats why I want to know what happened between them when they met. Personally I think there is a lot of Angel being out of character from season 3 on.
 
In "Forever," she admitted that him staying wouldn't be a good idea because of her neediness. It's possible that the same admission was made in "Flooded," because I'd think she's probably just as needy, if not more so. If she's vulnerable, she shouldn't be around him because her emotional needs might outrun her good sense, and then WHOOPS, we have Angelus again. If that's the case, I can see "intense" being a good word for that.
 
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palabravampiress
Good guess!
Blondie Bear said:
In "Forever," she admitted that him staying wouldn't be a good idea because of her neediness. It's possible that the same admission was made in "Flooded," because I'd think she's probably just as needy, if not more so. If she's vulnerable, she shouldn't be around him because her emotional needs might outrun her good sense, and then WHOOPS, we have Angelus again. If that's the case, I can see "intense" being a good word for that.
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I'd be willing to go along with that but like I said I'd still rather know than guess.
 
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