Food Addiction

Skanky Vamp

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So University of Michigan has done a case study and they conclude that
"highly processed foods share pharmacokinetic properties (e.g. concentrated dose, rapid rate of absorption) with drugs of abuse, due to the addition of fat and/or refined carbohydrates and the rapid rate the refined carbohydrates are absorbed into the system, indicated by glycemic load (GL). The current study provides preliminary evidence for the foods and food attributes implicated in addictive-like eating."
Which is something that I have for awhile thought as well. As more schools are continuing the testing and furthering the research (to either validate or disprove their findings) how do you think processed foods will be changed, or will they? Will they come with a warning label, etc.

When/if they do prove that processed foods acts in an addictive-like manner would that affect what and how you eat?
 
Blaze
Blaze
Sweet! thanks!
Do you have a link to the article? I'd be interested in reading it!

I don't think process foods will ever change because....money. They make too much money. So I think it's the parent's responsibility to raise their kids right on whole foods. From what I've seen, if you eat well as a kid, you eat well as an adult.
 
I don't think process foods will ever change because....money.
But if the FDA tax the hell out of it it might change. I know there was talk at one time of NYC instituting a 'fat tax' where junk food was so heavily taxed it would dissuade customers. I am not sure if they did it or how long it lasted.
 
But if the FDA tax the hell out of it it might change. I know there was talk at one time of NYC instituting a 'fat tax' where junk food was so heavily taxed it would dissuade customers. I am not sure if they did it or how long it lasted.

That would be a good thing. But what would be even better is reduce the price of whole food. Up in the great Canadian North, food is so expensive that I can see why a lot of people would want to buy fast food or processed food. If I make a full dinner with fresh meat and veggies, it costs me around 15$, while cooking something like Kraft dinner costs me 2$.
 
But what would be even better is reduce the price of whole food. Up in the great Canadian North, food is so expensive that I can see why a lot of people would want to buy fast food or processed food.
You are not EVEN lying. I have been saying that for awhile. It is very expensive to eat healthy. Even more expensive to prepare your own healthy food. The house next time mine the guy has 5 garden plots. I am going to buddy up to him and steal some of his stash.
 
Blaze
Blaze
I just picture a little hobbit hoping over to the good neighbor and stealing their carrots, not a bad plan
I'll eat processed foods as and when I need, is my consumption rate of those foods affected when the study is as lame the study by the University of Michigan, no.
When only 35 foods by one manufacturer are tested I'd be more inclined to think that someone organising the study has a grudge against the manufacturer.
 
I think it will take a lot for processed food and the attitude towards it to change. It's tasty, convenient, and cheap; while the alternative is expensive and time consuming. Also, processed food companies are huge and worth billions; so fighting them will be hard.

I'm sad about cheese being so addictive.
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
You're never addicted to cheese until that little metal whatchacallit thrashes down upon your head
I used to be addicted to cheese when you could but it in mouth sized portions, then they started selling it in 1kg blocks (2.2 lbs). As the blocks were to big to get in my mouth I stopped being addicted so I'd have to agree with Michigan - it isn't addictive.
 
It costs about the same for me to order in a healthy meal than to buy ingredients and make it myself.

My daughter absolutely loves fruit and vegetables. Raisins, clementines, apples, carrots, avocado and potatoes are alla winner. I try to make healthy meals for all of us, but occasionally after a very long day my partner will bring home Indian food, for example, after the kid is in bed with a belly full of veggie risotto.
 
It costs about the same for me to order in a healthy meal than to buy ingredients and make it myself.

The problem I think is sometimes you think you're ordering in something healthy, and next thing you know you're eating a bunch of crap without knowing it. Sometimes I'm surprised at the amount of salt and sugar "healthy" restaurant add to their food, in addition to using ingredients that are not as fresh as I would like. Or course I also do order in sometimes, or even eat the odd fast food, but nowadays even at fancy restaurant they sometimes use crap food. It's all quite sad.
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
This is EXACTLY it.
GwenRaiden
GwenRaiden
I usually order sushi or sashimi.
The problem I think is sometimes you think you're ordering in something healthy.
Yes indeed. And then people are simply not educated enough to understand that if something says "diet" it's healthy. People buy those Weight Watchers and Lean Cuisines thinking they are eating healthy. People think vegetables equal healthy. LOL. Sure, raw ones do, but vegetables are soaked and cooked in butter then seasoned with salt isn't exactly healthy.

I do like me some Amy's though!
 
What is fast food, how is a food categorised a fast food?
Is it when a food is available to be eaten fast, if so would 2-minute noodles be a fast food?
 
Well, this study isn't telling us anything we didn't already know.

I don't think process foods will ever change because....money. They make too much money.

But if the FDA tax the hell out of it it might change.

I doubt they will tax it. I mean, look at antiperspirants. 99% of them contain aluminum or other things that are toxic to your body that you are mainlining through your skin. But what has the FDA done about it? Nothing.

It is very expensive to eat healthy.

So true. I've never spent so much on groceries in my life since I went Paleo. And before I ate mostly fruits and veggies, so it's not like it was a terribly radical change. But meat, especially grass fed (which I don't even buy all the time because of the cost) is crazy expensive.

The problem I think is sometimes you think you're ordering in something healthy, and next thing you know you're eating a bunch of crap without knowing it. Sometimes I'm surprised at the amount of salt and sugar "healthy" restaurant add to their food, in addition to using ingredients that are not as fresh as I would like.

Yep, if you aren't cooking it yourself you don't know. Restaurants put flour in things you wouldn't think, and cook mostly in canola or vegetable oil which is like poison lol
 
Ahhhh, yet another one of the heads of the modern capitalist hydra beast. You can't kill just one head, it has a hundred more, and another one will quickly grow back in its place. Hearing people discuss it, debate it and get angry about it is like watching someone play wack-a-mole, except they are beleagered by a hundred little goddamn moles all at once, and they can't possibly hit them all; it's hopeless and they can never win. You have to kill the WHOLE THING.

The cost of healthy food, huge annual government subsidies for mass produce farmers to compete with imported food, Monsanto, the way that GMO's are used to increase the corporate control of our foods, which of course has its consequences in Washington D.C. where big corporate interests of all stripes can successfully use their money to promote their interests and lobbying groups, (witness all of the lucrative American construction contracts awarded to friends of the Bush cabinet to reconstruct Iraq after it was brought to ruin during the course of the most recent war with them, for just one example), and then the entire corrupt banking system and how everything else reinforces it (and how everything reinforces everything else), and so on are all interrelated problems. You can't talk about any one of these issues in isolation from the rest. They are all mutually reinforcing at some level.

I wish I could give a better description of the holistic nature of these problems here, but it would take too long. But consider it as metaphor instead: If you want to fix a fundamentally unhealthy tree or bush, will cutting off individual branches solve anything? No, of course not, you have to attack the problem at the roots, or the trunk or something. If the fundamental problems are not fixed, the little problems will just keep springing back up, relentlessly until the fundamental problems are finally addressed.

We are at that point. My point being, if you want the western world (and especially America) to promote and support healthier dietary lifestyles you have to change a hell of a lot of other problems and relationships in the existing social organization of things to make that a permanent possibility. I don't think I myself can identify the root of everything, but I personally think campaign finance reform, in the united states, is one of the main legs at the bottom, one of the biggies. For reasons that take a lot to explain.

I like to try to take a big picture approach with politics and see what specialists in this or that specific social/political problem too often don't see. Not that I consider myself that good at it, but still.
 
Has anyone else seen the Documentary called 'Fat, sick and nearly dead'. I watched both 1 & 2 with my partner and our minds were officially blown.
I'd be interested hear anyone else's opinions.
 
brinkster130
brinkster130
I watched the first one, didn't know they made a second. It was interesting for sure.
Has anyone else seen the Documentary called 'Fat, sick and nearly dead'. I watched both 1 & 2 with my partner and our minds were officially blown.
I'd be interested hear anyone else's opinions.

Same as brinkster, seen the first one. My other half was so taken aback by it he got a juicer and started juicing (that sounds so weird). He loves it and has continued to juice (ew weird) to complement his healthy diet. It definitely helped with some of his health issues too.
 
Great post Anthony!
I don't think I myself can identify the root of everything, but I personally think campaign finance reform, in the united states, is one of the main legs at the bottom, one of the biggies.
I'd add that as well as sorting out the problem of money and politics, another big pillar is money creation itself. There's a great team called positive money trying to highlight the current problem here:

Could These 3 Simple Changes to Banking Fix the Economy?
 
AnthonyCordova
AnthonyCordova
right on
The documentary that changed it all for me was Forks Over Knives, it changed my whole outlook and my heatlth. I have gone back to eating a little meat and fish but i'm wanting to cut it down again.

I'm lucky in that I live in a city which is accessible to accomodate a diet like mine. I don't agree that wholefoods are more expensive but like I said i'm lucky. Fruit and veg is not that expensive, neither are my grains. I buy my tofu at the chinese supermarket which is much cheaper than supermarkets or Real Foods (I guess like Whole Foods).
 
GwenRaiden
GwenRaiden
Is there not a Whole Foods in Edin? There's one in Glasgow but it's quite far from me so I don't get to go as much as I'd like.
Where I am, eating healthy is much more expensive than processed food.

Carbs are cheaper and more filling than salad. When you are on a budget you need to think of what will get you through the day, there is no luxury of choice.

There are healthy changes being made where I am, they arnt always great changes, but changes all the same.


The latest is toxic fat advertisements on the tv.
 
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