For the ladies of the board: About being nice and safety

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So Oprah today, which I don't normally watch but I did today, was about listening to your own intuition and using fear to your advantage. They had the guy that wrote The Gift of Fear on, talking about how most people who are victimized saw signs and talked themselves out of them.

Then he said something which I think is really important especially for the ladies of the board. That women are too afraid of not being nice. He earlier in the show gave an example about women will say that when they're waiting for an elevator, and the doors open, they'll get a bad vibe from a man inside. They just don't like the look of him or whatever. But they talk themselves into getting in anyway, because they don't want to seem rude. He said humans are the only animal that would get into a soundprooof, steel box with something that scared them.

First they showed an interview with Gabrielle Union talking about how she had been working in a shoe store and a man came in, and she just knew something was not right and wanted to run. But she didn't want to be impolite or mean, so she didn't. And she was raped.

Now the part that I really wanted everyone to hear. He said that men at their core are afraid that women will laugh at them. WOMEN at their core are afraid that men will KILL them. So women often believe that if they're not nice, they increase the chance of danger or risk. But the opposite is true: it's when you're nice that you open up and give information or engage with someone you don't want to talk to. And he said he's never heard a case of someone being raped or murdered because they're not nice, that's not what motivates attacks. But many many women are victimized because they didn't listen to the voice in their head saying that something is wrong.
 
It's true you know, about women being too nice. I used to be one who wanted to save face. I would be polite so that everything would go smoothly etc. Not anymore. Over the last 2 years I have been oposite. It's been great. When someone is around me bothering me or trying to talk to me, I tell them straight, to either bugger off, or just walk away even. And I am not upset by it anymore. I like it!
Be strong ladies, know how to trust your instincts.
 
He said humans are the only animal that would get into a soundprooof, steel box with something that scared them.

I had never actually looked at it in that way before. Before now I do I come to the conclusion that we are disbelievingly (Yes, it's a word, alright?) insane. And now I have a strong feeling I won't be getting into an elevator with some shifty-looking strangers anymore.....
 
It does make sense. I remember awhile ago reading some sort of self-defence thing and it said the best thing that a woman could do is to basically be a bitch - if you look like you won't take crap, potential attackers are less likely to attack you.
 
I'm watching the program now. Some things make sense. It is important to listen to intuition. Some things don't make sense or are a little too simplistic, though. We all know what that little feeling is, and yet I hope most of us have never been violently attacked. That tells me that it's not always a good idea to follow through on that intuition. If I bolted every time I felt that feeling, then I'd spend my whole life bolting. Also, some of the things they're saying seem really sexist. I don't buy a lot of the rules of thumb that are being offered. The whole "men do x" and "women do y" thing seems off to me.

I will say this for intuition: mine is almost always right. I could go on for pages and pages describing the times during which my intuition has been correct.

I wish the show had focused more on what you should do when your intuition tells you something's wrong, but it doesn't tell you exactly what is wrong.

I also wish the show had included some basic safety tips. A few tips that I have learned and seem to work well for me (I don't have a car, so I walk and take a lot of public transportation) are to always always look people straight in the eyes, to engage in direct and confident conversation, to never cower or appear vulnerable, and to carry a cell phone in your hand. Basically, just make sure you don't look like an easy victim. Look like someone who will fight back if cornered and remember his face, to boot.

I have been approached by strange men before. I've had to tell a few to leave me alone more than once. But I've never been attacked. And the above is pretty much my strategy. I make sure I give the appearance of being annoyed rather than intimidated. I also mention that I'm married. I make sure to be rather obvious about checking out license plates or facial features or other distinguishing traits. I have my cell phone in my hand. If I get "that feeling," I usually duck into a coffee shop or some other well-lit, public place. Sometimes, if I feel really uncomfortable and I can't duck into a public place, I just pretend to be on the phone. Basically, look like someone who will escalate the situation rather than like someone who will comply. I learned that 10 years ago in a women's self-defense course. I can't remember any of the kicks or punches, but I remember and live by the don't-look-like-a-victim rule.
 
Well I know they've had the "safety" show before, so they probably weren't focusing on that.

And, like it or not, culturally we do teach women to be a certain way and men another.
 
True though being a bitch helps! I've met some weird men in my time and bitchin at em when they begin to push past your boundaries is a must!
Mind you there are times when even women have been aggressive and dodgy and I've been too chicken to say so! So braving it up and being a bitch really helps!
 
I'm not so sure that being bitch works either. I've been approached by men who would just not take now for an answer. On two seperate occasions I have had a man hold my wrists and refuse to let go. No matter how bitchy I got and I mean literally to the point where I was screaming at him to F**K Off and die! their grasps just got tighter. That can get scary, thank god my friend was there both times to chase em off. If he hadn't God only knows what would have happened.

PV I'm not so sure about the phone thing. If I did that here it would be like having a flashing neon sign over my head saying 'Rob Me!!!'
 
I second Keanoite for the phone thing. If I had in my hand, in less than a second I wouldn't have it anymore.
Most of the time I don't look at people and when someone talks to me I do not answer. So far it has worked and i hope it still will.
 
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