FOREVER; my favourite scene in the whole of Buffy

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FOREVER

The Good;
Angel's back, hooray. The final scene where Buffy and Dawn collapse into each other's arms is my favourite scene in the whole of Buffy.

The Bad;
Dawn stealing the eggs, the Ghora demon just looks lame.

Best line;
Dawn; "It's ok, okkaaayyyyy!"

Women good/men bad;

Jeez!;
Doc is far more human that many of the demons the gang face and ALL the scarier for it. Like Mayor Wilkins, Doc is a tribute to the skill of an actor in the role. Am I the only one who finds Willow's idea of making a stuffed animal dance extremely sinister? Buffy slaps Dawnie but in fairness she has every right to.

Kinky dinky;
Glory refers to Jinx as her 'Robed stud'. Willow likens Tara's fried eggs to 'little boobs'. Anya and Xander have sex, Anya hinting to a terrified Xander she eventually wants children.

Captain Subtext;
Note that Buffy never hugs Dawn after Joyce dies, not even at the graveside, can't even bare to look her in the face. (both girls sitting alone in their bedrooms) Can't stand to see her mother's eyes looking back at her? It's only in the last scene that the sisters finally find each other and it's all too wonderful. Spike (who was noticeably absent in The Body) brings flowers for Joyce whom he professes his fondness for (in Lies My Parents Told Me we discover why). Buffy says she wants Angel to stay on in Sunnydale for all time which must give Bangler's reassurance.

Guantanamo Bay;

Scoobies to the ER;

Missing scenes;

Apocalypses; 5,

Wheldon Cliches (with kind permission from Boo)

Scoobies in bondage:
Buffy: 8
Giles: 4
Cordy: 5
Will: 3
Jenny: 1
Angel: 4
Oz: 1
Faith: 3
Joyce: 1
Wes: 1
Xander; 1
Dawn; 1

Scoobies knocked out:
Buffy: 16
Giles: 10
Cordy: 6
Xander: 8
Will: 5
Jenny: 2
Angel: 6
Oz: 3
Faith: 1
Joyce: 3
Wes: 1
Anya;1

Kills:
Buffy: 95 vamps, 32 demons, 6 monsters, 3 humans, 1 werewolf, 1 spirit warrior & a robot
Giles: 5 vamps, 1 demon
Cordy: 3 vamps, ½ a demon
Will: 6 vamps
Angel: 3 vamps, 1 demon, 1 human
Oz: 3 vamps, 1 zombie
Faith: 16 vamps, 5 demons, 3 humans
Xander: 5 vamps, 2 zombies, ½ a demon, ½ a demon
Anya: ½ a demon
Riley; 18 vamps + 7 demons

Scoobies go evil:
Giles: 1
Cordy: 1
Will: 2
Jenny: 1
Angel: 1
Oz: 1
Joyce: 1
Xander: 3

Alternate scoobies:
Buffy: 6
Giles: 3
Cordy: 1
Will: 2
Jenny: 2
Angel: 3
Oz: 2
Joyce: 2
Xander: 3

Recurring characters killed: 10
Jesse, Flutie, Jenny, Kendra, Larry, Snyder, Professor Walsh, Forrest, McNamara, Joyce

Sunnydale deaths;
89;

Total number of scoobies: 6
Giles, Xander, Willow, Buffy, Anya, Tara,

Xander demon magnet: 5(6?)
Preying Mantis Lady, Inca Mummy Girl, Drusilla, VampWillow, Anya (arguably Buffy & Faith with their demon essences?), Dracula?

Scoobies shot:
Giles: 2
Angel: 3
Oz: 4
Riley; 1

Notches on Scooby bedpost:
Giles: 2; Joyce & Olivia, possibly Jenny and 3xDraccy babes?
Cordy: 1?
Buffy: 3 confirmed; Angel, Parker,Riley, 1 possible, Dracula(?)
Angel: 1;Buffy
Joyce: 1;Giles, 2 possible, Ted and Dracula(?)
Oz: 3; Groupie, Willow & Verucca
Faith:2 ;Xander, Riley
Xander: 2; Faith, Anya
Willow: 2;Oz and Tara
Riley; 3; Buffy, Sandy and unnamed vampwhore

Questions and observations;
Willow's helping of Dawn foretells her abuse of magic in later seasons. A lot of people blame Dawn for trying to ressurect Joyce but just imagine you're 14 year old girl and the mother you love more than anything has died. If there was the slightest chance you could bring her back, wouldn't you? Wouldn't anyone?
Angel comes to Sunnydale for the funeral. Do Wes and Cordy come? Oz? Do they tell Faith? She doesn't mention Joyce when she turns up in season 7 but maybe Buffy posts her a letter? Nice mislead with Buffy and the coffins, you think she's vamphunting at first. Dawn in pigtails to make her look even younger. The album Giles is listening to is the same one he listened to with Joyce in Band Candy.
For the record the scariest monster we never see is the THING that crosses past the window and knocks on the door of the Summer's house. And Buffy goes 'Mommy' and runs to the door because she'd give the world to have Joyce back. And Dawn becomes the grown up and rips up the photo so she opens the door to nothing. And the Summer's girls collapse into each other's arms because (to paraphrase Ally McBeal) Joyce is dead, they loved her and she died and she's going to be dead forever. But they'll always have each other, she lives on through her deeds and her daughters. Angelus in Passion referred to 'The ecstasy of grief'. Here we see it in all it's glory. And in many ways Buffy needs Dawn a lot more than Dawn needs Buffy, Buffy doesn't ask who's going to take care of Dawn, she asks who's going to take care of 'us'. And the answer is from now on they take care of each other.

Marks out of 10; 9/10, would be 10/10 except for the stupid looking demon.
 
Angel is back. Yaaay, it can't be better. When he walks, and grabs her hand, awww, it's so nice 🙂 I love how they talk, touch, kiss, thank you Joss for this 🙂

I really liked Buffy/Dawn moment in this episode. I agree. I think everyone would try to back their mother back if they had a chance. Actually, this is the only thing I don't blame Dawn for 😀

When Buffy runs to the door and whispers "Mommy" is the saddest part of the episode.

10/10
 
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Eleftheria
I agree with everything you said. Angel coming back for one of the worst moments of Buffy,just being there for her is amazing. And the "mommy" killed me. I cried all the time with Sarah's performance.Well done!
The last scene is one of my favorite BtVS moment too. I like this ep. I think I can say it's almost as great as The Body.

The scene that the sisters are sitting in their own room is so sad. They didn't connect at that time. They didn't even really talk. That's make the last scene more memorable. The moment when Dawn tears Joyce's picture while Buffy is opening the door is touching. I give it 10/10.
 
This is not a favorite episode of mine, but the ending when Buffy finally breaks down is one of my favorite moments in the show.
It's also one, if not the sadest scene I think. It always gets to me much more than anything in the Body.

Willow's little hint to Dawn really is a glimpse of things to come.
Even though Dawn should have known better herself I blame Willow mostly for Dawn's resurrection attempt.
She never did a very good work showing a united front with Tara against resurrection to begin with, and showing Dawn the book was even worse. Even though she probably thought it would be safe and that Dawn wouldn't be able to do it anyway.

/SK
 
I think it's one of the creepier episodes. Especially with the Joyce-thing walking by the window at the end. *shivers*

I thought it was really heartbreaking how Buffy was the one telling Dawn not to be stupid, to be grown up, and then she's the one that runs to the door when she thinks it's Joyce. Poor baby. And it's nice to see Dawn actually grow up a bit and rip the pic.
 
Watched this today and really enjoyed it. Touching moment with Buffy and Dawn and with Angel coming back. Best bit for me though was Spike showing that he cared for Joyce. Great scene loved seeing the shock on Willow and Xander's face when they realized he was genuine.
 
I'm watching this right now. I just love the scene in the cemetary with Buffy & Angel. I can just feel Dawn's desperation to have her mother back & I can feel her pain...I will agree that the ending scene is one of the best in the series. No matter how many times I see it, I lose it. This is a great ep!!!
 
Wild At Heart said:
I'm watching this right now. I just love the scene in the cemetary with Buffy & Angel. I can just feel Dawn's desperation to have her mother back & I can feel her pain...I will agree that the ending scene is one of the best in the series. No matter how many times I see it, I lose it. This is a great ep!!!
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just reading the post makes me well up, especially with your Joyce and Buffy on the sofa at the end of 'Innocence' banner
 
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