Fred and Lorne in "Fredless"

[hazzard]

So, the whole episode is set up to make us think that there's something wrong with Fred's parents or their relationship with her. In the end, they're sweet, loving people, and Fred was only afraid to face them because it made her time in Pylea real--it brought reality crashing in.
Knowing this, why is it that, when Fred goes to caritas and asks Lorne for help, that Lorne tells her to run? Wouldn't he comfort her and tell her to go back, to face her demons (literal and figurative). If he could read her and know it was just her fear and trauma from her ordeal on Pylea? why would he tell her something false or something contrary to what she should do?

 

[Kana]

Lorne is indeed advising her against facing up to the realities of what happened in Pylea and I agree it's bad advice. I believe he projecting his own fear of confrontation and conflict onto Fred and telling her not to deal. Lorne was in a dark place and his advice respresents his inability to deal with the issues he's going through at the moment, kind of like a couples therapist going through a divorce and giving his clients bad advice based upon his current feelings.

 

[Five]

I totally agree with Kana.

And I want to say I love the way Fred "sings" : "ROOOOW ROOOW ROOOOW" =D Priceless !

 

[Lindsey McDonald]

Yeah, remember what happened when Lorne faced up to his parents. It wasn't exactly a shining moment for him, so his advice is kind of understandable - if really bad.

 

[white avenger]

Yeah, I think that somehow Lorne was confusing his feelings for his own parents and how he would react if they showed up in LA with what Fred should do in that situation.

 

[Big Damn Hero]

Also, you don't know what he saw. It could've been "I can't see my parents ever because it hurts" or something (I got the impression from the show that the longer they sing the more info he gets, and he just heard "row row row") and also all the "anxiety waves" coming off her, he might not've known the specific reason she couldn't see them - just that it terrified her more than she could put into words.

 

[Revolver]

I just don't think it was one of the better written moments of the show. It was obviously done that way to be purposely misleading but it doesn't really make any kind of sense.

 

[hazzard]

yeah, i'd always thought it was done to be purposefully misleading, even though it didn't make any sense with the show/the character of lorne. but what everyone has said about lorne's fear of his own family/home issues makes a lot of sense.

 

[Edmund Blackadder]

Lorne is a quasi-counsellor to the group, he is a therapists.
He read Fred and saw the traumatic issues she had with seeing her family.

Fred had to eventually see them, but no counsellor will force a situation before its ready.

According to what Lorne saw, Fred was no ready to deal with that, not equiped, and if someone is in that state you do not make them face up to it.

Lornes advice was actually pretty decent.
Yes it seemed exaggerated for effect, to make us believe they are evil or something, but the worst thing you can do is send someone into a confrontation they aren't ready for.

 

[hazzard]

Lorne is a quasi-counsellor to the group, he is a therapists.
He read Fred and saw the traumatic issues she had with seeing her family.

Fred had to eventually see them, but no counsellor will force a situation before its ready.

According to what Lorne saw, Fred was no ready to deal with that, not equiped, and if someone is in that state you do not make them face up to it.

Lornes advice was actually pretty decent.
Yes it seemed exaggerated for effect, to make us believe they are evil or something, but the worst thing you can do is send someone into a confrontation they aren't ready for.

i'm not sure she wasn't ready for it. everyone agreed she'd just changed one cave for another, that she never left the hotel, and that it had been all summer that she'd been locked up there. it seems that perhaps she was ready--it was time for her to confront her fears and issues about pylea so that she could actually start her life again. just a thought.

 

[The_Final_Cylon]

I think it entirely makes sense for Lornes character at that point to tell Fred to run.
He was pissed of with them all for a start.
He would be able to understand her feelings of fear towards parents well enough that he knows what he would do in the situation (run).
And, he says that her feelings of fear are so strong they're probably blocking out any other information.