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This one got a bit "soapy" at times, but still decent.


really liked Fred parents, especially Mr. Burkle.

LMA0 at Mrs. Burkle killing the giant bug with the bus. :lmao:
 
Wesley: My gypsy curse, sometimes prevent me form seeing the truth. Oh Buffy!!!

Cordy: Yes Angel?

Wesley: I love you so much, I almost forgot to brood!


Wesley: Kiss me!

Cordy Bite me!



:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 
T
The_Final_Cylon
Love this quote sooo much :P
F
Fredsicle
haha "you can both bite me"
Anya2012
Anya2012
Making fun of Bangel. Priceless.
Tillow4ever
Tillow4ever
that was hilarious...
PassionBecoming
PassionBecoming
BAHAHAHAHA
Fredless is my favortie episode of Angel (other than the Pylea episodes).
I mean Fred is so awesome, and it's good to see that there is one character that actually has nice parents.
Her dad was just so awesome when talking to Angel after finding out he's a vampire, just priceless.
 
Fredless is my favortie episode of Angel (other than the Pylea episodes).
I mean Fred is so awesome, and it's good to see that there is one character that actually has nice parents.
Her dad was just so awesome when talking to Angel after finding out he's a vampire, just priceless.

That's probably why they all were instanty drawn to Mr. and Mrs. Burkle.

Gunn grew up bouncing from shelter to shelter with Alana, w/o parents.

Wesley's parents tend to belittle him, espcially the father.

Cordy's parents basically just tossed $$$ at her, not spending any time with her.

Angel/Liam had serious "daddy" issues, which culminated in him killing him after being sired by Darla. Along with the rest of the family.

They were the kind of parents they ALL wished for, but didn't have.

Just like how The Scoobies all were attached to Joyce Summers on BTVS.
 
This episode was... okay I guess. I liked it, but It isn't one of my favourites. Though the beginning was hilarious

Cordelia: Oh, Angel! I know that I am a Slayer, and you're a vampire and it would be impossible for us to be together, but...
Wesley: [imitating Angel] But... my gypsy curse, sometimes prevent me from seeing the truth. Oh, Buffy...
Cordelia: Yes, Angel?
Wesley: Oh, I love you so much I almost forgot to brood!
Cordelia: And just because I sent you to Hell that one time doesn't mean that we can't just be friends.
Wesley: Or possibly more?
Cordelia: Gasp! No! We mustn't!
Wesley: Kiss me!
Cordelia: Bite me!

And ofcourse Fred's mom killing the bug with the bus 😀
 
This ep is definitely in my top 10. Any of the Fred-themed ones are. I love Fred's theory of time, and the Angel/Buffy skit.
Not to mention Fred's toaster...er, I mean decapitation device.
And who didn't enjoy Mrs. Burkle killing the bug with a bus?
At the beginning of the episode I was thinking the Burkles were evil or not themselves or something.
Guess not.
 
One of my favorites as well. I really loved Fred when she came into the show, and by the end of this episode when she realizes what she wants to do with the rest of her life, I was put in such a good mood. It's a great metaphor I guess for just knowing that you're supposed to be doing something, even if it means moving away from family and your past. Besides, the actor who plays Fred's dad is great. He's great in just about everything I've seen him do.
 
Yep another good episode, actually I have just recently watched it again, I love the giant bugs and the bit when Mrs Burkle squishes one!
 
FREDLESS

The Good;
Wonderful acting by AA when Fred's finally reunited with her parents. CC and Wes' Buffy/Angel show is FANTASTIC! A good ep all around. The scene where Fred calms herself at the bus station by reciting Pi and the crazy looking homeless guy moves away from HER is the funniest scene in all of Angel and may be my favourite Angel scene ever.

The Bad;
Bit of a reach that they just let the bugs go?

Best line:
Fred; (when reunited with her parents) "I didn't mean to get so lost, I'm sorry I got so lost" (tears me up every time)

Jeez, how did they get away with that?

Apocalypses: 5

Angel Cliches

Inverting the Hollywood cliche;
Bugs ain't evil and neither really is the demon Angel kills, just driven mad by the eggs in it's skull. We think Fred's parents are evil but they're not. They're also able to accept AI's rather odd lifestyle

In disguise; 8

DB get's his shirt off; 12
9,

Cheap Angel; 7

Fang Gang in bondage:
Cordy: 5
Angel: 11
Wes: 6
Gunn; 3
Lorne; 2

Fang gang knocked out:
Cordy: 11
Angel: 14
Wes: 5
Doyle; 1
Gunn; 1
Lorne; 2

Kills: chalk up one demon bug for Fred's mum and one demon for Angel
Cordy: 5 vamps, 3½ demons
Angel; 28 vamps, 40 and 1/2 demons, 3 humans
Doyle; 1 vamp
Wes; 7 demons+1 vamp
Kate; 3 vamps
Faith; 16 vamps, 6 demons, 3 humans.
Gunn; 8 vamps+ 6 demons.
Fang Gang go evil:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 2

Alternate Fang Gang:
Cordy: 2
Angel: 7

Characters killed:
43

Recurring characters killed;
7;

Total number of Angel Investigations:
5, Angel, Cordy, Wes, Gunn and Fred

Angel Investigations shot:
Angel: 11
Wes; 1

Packing heat;
Wes; 3
Doyle; 1
Angel; 1
Gunn; 1

Notches on Fang Gang bedpost:
Cordy: 3 ?+Wilson/Hacksaw Beast+Phantom Dennis
Angel: 5; Buffy, Darla and The Transcending Furies
Wes; 2; Virginia and the bleached blonde

Kinky dinky:
Fred's mum asks if Fred is making 'movies', LA's porn industry probably bigger than it's tourism, film and music combined. Check out CCs fishnets. She seems to revel in playing nurse for the gang and later tells Angel she could 'soothe his ass off'.

Captain Subtext;
Lorne wears eyeliner which Fred's dad says men from Texas tend not to do (never been to a 'Gay Rodeo'?).

Know the face, different character; 3

Parking garages;
5,

Guantanamo Bay;

Buffy characters on Angel; 16
Wetherby, Collins and Smith. Angel, Cordy, Oz, Spike, Buffy, Wes, Faith, Darla, Dru, The Master, Anne, Willow and Harmony

Questions and observations;
A nice ep with Fred now part of the gang more than ever. AI are in awe of the PI the Burkle's hire who can find Fred with only a letter to go on. The Alien films are referred to with JW of course writing part 4. Fred's dad refers to Spiro Agnew who was Nixon's vice president (he was caught up in a corruption scandal before Watergate which is why Gerald Ford, the speaker of the house becomes President following Tricky Dickie's resignation). Famously his name is an anagram of 'grow a penis'. Angel likes ice cream, weird I thought he couldn't enjoy normal food. Lorne smokes and is still bitter about what Gunn's friends did to his bar. Fred considers going to Vegas for a new job, well one day she will. Angel likes golf and apparently watched the Bob Hope Desert Classic which was presumably played in Vegas. In the daytime? Wes' talk of his own parents puts Lineage into perspective.
Marks out of 10; 7/10 a funny and touching romp before we get down to the more serious stuff of season 3
 
Cordelia: Oh, Angel! I know that I am a Slayer, and you're a vampire and it would be impossible for us to be together, but...
Wesley: [imitating Angel] But... my gypsy curse, sometimes prevent me from seeing the truth. Oh, Buffy...
Cordelia: Yes, Angel?
Wesley: Oh, I love you so much I almost forgot to brood!
Cordelia: And just because I sent you to Hell that one time doesn't mean that we can't just be friends.
Wesley: Or possibly more?
Cordelia: Gasp! No! We mustn't!
Wesley: Kiss me!
Cordelia: Bite me!

Angel off screen: "How about you both bite me."

Fred jumps up: "You're back!"

Gunn: "How'd it go?"

Angel: "I think those two pretty much summed it up. To be honest - I *really* don't wanna talk about it."
 
A good episode for Fred's character development. I loved her parents, especially her dad. The Wes/Cordy Bangel scenes were priceless.

10/10 for me.
 
This is one of my favorite episodes.

There are many emotional scenes in this episode that we as viewers can relate to:
Trying to deal with a traumatic event by not thinking of it [tears came to my eyes as Fred was saying that if her parents were there then it meant what happened really happened];
Wanting to go and stay where you feel it is safe [Fred wanting to return to Texas]; and
Knowing that it is best to continue forward [Fred realizing that she belongs in LA with AI].

It is a very poignant scene at the end when Fred paints over the pic of Angel on a horse rescuing her.
 
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Imberan
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This episode was... okay I guess. I liked it, but It isn't one of my favourites. Though the beginning was hilarious

Cordelia: Oh, Angel! I know that I am a Slayer, and you're a vampire and it would be impossible for us to be together, but...
Wesley: [imitating Angel] But... my gypsy curse, sometimes prevent me from seeing the truth. Oh, Buffy...
Cordelia: Yes, Angel?
Wesley: Oh, I love you so much I almost forgot to brood!
Cordelia: And just because I sent you to Hell that one time doesn't mean that we can't just be friends.
Wesley: Or possibly more?
Cordelia: Gasp! No! We mustn't!
Wesley: Kiss me!
Cordelia: Bite me!

And ofcourse Fred's mom killing the bug with the bus 😀

This is one of my favorite episodes partly because of the quote above 😀 so funny!
But overall I really like this episode and Fred's parents. I really thought they were going to be awful like the others parents but ah, instead... the dream:smile3:
 
I didn't really like the episode much outside of Wesley and Cordy's roleplay and,

Cordelia: Fred can barely tie her shoes without Mr. Oh-You're-My-Big-Fat-Hero! around.
Angel: You think I'm fat?


Fred's parents were sweet, though. It was amusing when Angel and him were bonding. 🙂
 
Taake
Taake
lol "you think I'm fat" ... ah Angel
Haha, there was a lot of hilarious quotes in this episode 🙂 Also agree with 'Evil Limo' about the last scene, it's a nice way to end it.

*Gasp! No! We mustn't!*

Lmao.
 
"Taake agrees: lol "you think I'm fat" ... ah Angel"
My favorite thing about it was how so very hurt he looked, like the next thing he was going to do was say "Good day!" and storm off.
 
Really enjoyed this episode, liked the scenes with Fred's Parents. Wes and Cordy's re-enactment of Buffy and Angel was hilarious!

One of my favourite parts was when Angel turns in to a vampire in front of Freds parents while fighting.
[As they're all running away]
Fred's Dad: What happened to his face!?
Wes: Angels a vampire, he has a soul but its a long story, i'll tell you about it if we dont end up dying!

Very minor moment but made me lol. Love Wes!
 
I didn't really like this episode mainly because I don't really care for Fred, I find her a little annoying from what I've seen so far but maybe I'll change my mind going on with the seasons. I was SO sure her parents were evil and it turns, they're normal, loving parents..that was very nice and gave it a little twist instead of going for the obvious. The bugs were creepy, veeeery creepy.
 
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