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Gingerbread

Air Date: January 12, 1999
Writer: Jane Espenson
Director: James Whitmore, Jr.

Trivia:

- Director Jerome E. Scott is the boy led away from his locker in the opening.

- Buffy refers to the events of "Lovers Walk," when Xander and Willow were caught kissing, when she says to Xander, "You got illicit smoochies, you're gonna have to pay the price."

- Willow's parents obviously do not pay very much attention to her, as this episode made very clear. Among other things, her mom refers to Buffy as "Bunny" twice, and didn't even know that Willow had cut her hair.

- More confirmation of Buffy's reputation for being a bad-ass at school when the bully and his friends are antagonizing Michael. All Buffy has to do is show her face and they back down.

- Willow's mom, Sheila, seems to be a sociologist or something similar, based on the writings she said that she has done.

- When Joyce mentions "skinning" in her speech, she is referring to the skins that were left after the fish-men had "hatched" in "Go Fish."

- Giles's translation of the German article on the computer was accurate.

- The spell that Giles cast to lift the veil off of Hansel and Gretel is as follows:

Demons show yourselves. I
call on the powers of
Hecate, queen and
protectress of witches, to
strip away the masks. Let
evil wear an evil face...

Hecate implores you. Lift
the veil

Lift the veil.
Hide not behind
false faces.

Goofs and Gaffes:

- When the team looks up old newspaper articles about murdered children, a German text from 1649 briefly flashes on the screen. The text does not make any sense, and looks like an electronic word-by-word translation of an English original.

- During the locker search, a cop is looking through a coin purse as seen over Snyder's shoulder. A significant amount of time later, and after looking through other things, the same cop is seen looking through the same coin purse.

References:

- "The patriarchal bias of the Mister Rogers' Show" and "King Friday lording it over all the lesser puppets." A reference to the 1968-2001 PBS TV show Mister Rogers' Neighborhood. Fred Rogers was the host of this children's television program aiming to teach children the important issues of life, such as being friendly, sharing, etc. Also featured an imaginary world with puppets living in a medieval-type kingdom ruled by King Friday.

- "...that twisted little homunculus." Homunculus: A little man; a dwarf; a manikin.

- "I don't know about you, but I'm going to go trade my cow in for some beans." This is the second reference to the story of "Jack and the Beanstalk"; the first was in "Surprise."

- "Using what, a dictionary and My Friend Flicka?" My Friend Flicka is a 1941 book for young adults by Mary O'Hara, about a boy and his horse.

- "It happened in Salem." The Salem witch hysteria occurred in Salem, Massachusetts in 1692. Over 160 men and women were accused of witchcraft; 19 were convicted and hanged, at least 5 died in jail, and one man over 80 years old was crushed to death under heavy stones for refusing to submit to a trial.

- "I worship Beelzebub." Beelzebub is the patron god of the Philistines in ancient Palestine.

- "Hansel and Gretel" is a classic fairy tale by the Brothers Grimm. It is a tale about two children that get lost in the forest, find a gingerbread house, and are almost cooked in an oven to be eaten by the witch who owns the house.

Body Count:

- Mr. Sanderson, Hansel and Gretel (Demon).

Episode Information:

- This episode carries with it a moral warning against the dangers of mob mentality, as well as the prejudice held in some small communities (despite Sunnydale's ever-expanding borders) towards alternative lifestyles and belief systems. In the same vein, it explores the easy excitability of people living in Sunnydale (and by extension, over the Hellmouth), especially when 'civilians', such as Joyce Summers, are exposed firsthand to the aftermath of supernatural violence or danger.

Continuity:

- Buffy asks Angel, "Is Sunnydale any better than when I first came here?" No one remembers the events of "The Wish" a couple weeks previously, where the Master rose unchallenged and Sunnydale became a town under siege, because of the nature of the eponymous wish. The place may not be better than when the Slayer first got there, but it is certainly far, far better than it might have been. This, along with Joyce's belittling of Buffy's responsibilities, strengthens the season's theme of whether or not the characters are making the changes they want to.

- Joyce and Giles are awkward around each other, this apparently being their first contact since they slept together during "Band Candy".

- Amy is turned into a rat and remains a rat for 3 years.

- Magic will get Willow into trouble again in "Doppelgangland" and then rather often in the years to come.

- Cordelia tells Giles that one day he might "wake up in a coma" which she actually does in "You're Welcome".

- Cordelia asks Giles rhetorically, "How many times have you been knocked out, anyway?!" This is a reference to Giles being rendered unconcious as a plot device on a regular basis, its regularity becoming an in-joke with many fans. Although the device is given a send-up here, it is far from the last time Giles will be knocked out.

- A Slayer being burned at a stake under accusation of witchcraft previously occurred in "Buffyverse" continuity, the Righteous Slayer as appearing in the canonical Tales of the Slayers, published 2002.

- Angel and Buffy philosophically discuss why they fight, reactively defeating evil threats that never stop coming. This theme is prominent in the spin-off series Angel.

Best quotes:

- Willow: A doodle. I do doodle. You too. You do doodle too.

- Xander: Oh man, it's Nazi Germany. And, I've got Playboys in my locker.

- Giles: We need to save Buffy from Hansel and Gretel.
Cordelia: Now, let's be clear, the brain damage happened before I hit you.

- Buffy: Mom, dead people are talking to you! Do the math.

- Buffy: Like the kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.
Angel: Dyke... it's another word for dam.
Buffy: Oh. Okay, that story makes a lot more sense now. (when he first said dyke I was very confused!)

- Xander: Everyone expects me to mess up again, like Oz. I see how he is around me. You know, that steely gaze, that pointed silence.
Buffy: 'Cause he's usually such a chatterbox.

- Giles: Of course. It makes sense now.
Buffy: Yeah, it's all falling into place. Of course that place is nowhere near this place.

- Cordelia: I swear, one of these times, you're gonna wake up in a coma.

- Buffy: Giles, we need those books.
Giles: Believe me, I've tried to tell that to the nice man with the big gun.
 
- Giles's translation of the German article on the computer was accurate.

Goofs and Gaffes:

- When the team looks up old newspaper articles about murdered children, a German text from 1649 briefly flashes on the screen. The text does not make any sense, and looks like an electronic word-by-word translation of an English original.

Well his translation was accurate because it was just word-by-word 😉 I'm sure, had they taken an authentic German texts they so would've screwed that up. And I'm not just saying that, cos Why We Fight was proof enough.

But oh, it was so adorable when Giles was talking German. It's always so funny to hear actors on TV trying to use your native language.
 
Cordelia tells Giles that one day he might "wake up in a coma" which she actually does in "You're Welcome".

I've never actually realised that before; I always thought the quote was funny, but I never really noticed the irony. Gosh, if that was actually written as a reference then to You're Welcome, Joss must really plan things far in advance, like really far, considering season 1 of Angel hadn't even started then, and You're Welcome is season five...Wow. 😛
 
PrincessBuffy16
PrincessBuffy16
That one blew out my mind (:
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Abby27
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I never really cared for this episode first time around, last time I saw it I thought it was kind of funny but meh, I don't know. Mostly I find it kind of boring (except the 'did I get it?' scene towards the end).
 
LyteHouse
LyteHouse
lol! I love that scene
Cordelia asks Giles rhetorically, "How many times have you been knocked out, anyway?!" This is a reference to Giles being rendered unconcious as a plot device on a regular basis, its regularity becoming an in-joke with many fans. Although the device is given a send-up here, it is far from the last time Giles will be knocked out.

Does anybody have a count of exactly how many times Giles was knocked out? Y'know I never noticed this the 1st 2 times watching, but I think it's hilarious.


Angel and Buffy philosophically discuss why they fight, reactively defeating evil threats that never stop coming. This theme is prominent in the spin-off series Angel.

This is exactly what I thought of when re-watching (of course my 2nd watch included AtS, and it's a theme that I really liked).

I never really cared for this episode first time around, last time I saw it I thought it was kind of funny but meh, I don't know. Mostly I find it kind of boring (except the 'did I get it?' scene towards the end).

Me too. There are some funny moments, and I like the Buffy/Angel discussion of why we fight, but it's not all that exciting.
 
Weird episode, not the best. What I got out of it is that Willow is less a daughter and more of a sociological/psychological test case to her overly academic, frigid mother. That makes the character of Willow much easier to understand, and while I hated what they did with her in Season 6, I at least know where it comes from, thanks to this episode.
 
So was Willow's mum right to discourage her daughter from Magical practices? 😕
 
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Abby27
I think it was right for her to be concerned as look what happened, but Willow abused the magick. Magick can be good when it isn't abused.
So was Willow's mum right to discourage her daughter from Magical practices? 😕

Pro's:
  • great aid in the fight against evil
  • combined with Tara's magic = better sex

Con's:
  • addiction
  • depression
  • killing spree
  • near destruction of the world

In hindsight I'd say Willow's mom was wrong, but then again, I place heavy emphasis on pro #2.
 
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FetalPig
LOL - good answer :)
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Abby27
Your banner just made me tear up a little bit.
Mostly I find it kind of boring (except the 'did I get it?' scene towards the end).

I actually really like this episode. Its full of great little moments. I love how Joyce turns up during Buffy's patrol, acting all motherly and giving her a flask lol!

But yeah, the ''did I get it?'' scene - followed by Xander and Oz crashing through the roof "we're here to save you" - cracks me up everytime. 😀
 
Just re-watched this ep; for some reason I found it very creepy 😱.
I never really got into it the first time round but when Buffy & the others did research online and you could see all the previous articles about the same kids dying; don't ask why, but when Willow said "They're the same kids..." I got chills 😱. The ending was a bit rubbish to be honest, the ep went from being creepy to downright comical with the "did I get it?" line from Buffy.

One of the funniest quotes from this ep was "Oh, my mum's....standing right in front of me". I love most of Willow's lines hahahaha, it's the way she says things 😀
 
I always thought this episode was a little far-fetched mainly because the "everyone is Sunnydale uses selective memory" only goes so far. We are really supposed to believe that everyone just sort of picked up as usual after all this? I mean, Buffy and Willow's moms tried to burn them at the stack. I don't know.

But I do love the fear it invokes. I remember watching it for the first time and when Joyce was giving her speech about taking back the town from the vampires, demons, and slayers, and the camera turned to Buffy, my stomach sank and I thought, "Oh crap, it just hit the fan." I mean, it really did feel like Natzi Germany (as Xander points out). I always really liked that about this episode. If the town and police really did get involved with the occult, they would incapacitate the only people who could actually stop it.
 
I've never actually realised that before; I always thought the quote was funny, but I never really noticed the irony. Gosh, if that was actually written as a reference then to You're Welcome, Joss must really plan things far in advance, like really far, considering season 1 of Angel hadn't even started then, and You're Welcome is season five...Wow. 😛

Although that would be hilarious, I really doubt that it was planned that way. After all, Cordelia wasn't originally going to be killed off, that was decided when Joss got angry at her for not informing him of her pregnancy - which was several years later.

One of my favorite parts of this episode had to be Willow's mom calling Buffy "Bunny", lol!
 
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Nathan
LOL hahaha! "you're not to see bunny summers again." LOL
I always really liked that about this episode. If the town and police really did get involved with the occult, they would incapacitate the only people who could actually stop it.

Ideally, the authorities should be involved, if for nothing else because Buffy and the Scoobs can't be everything. What I like in Gingerbread (apart from the hilarious dialogue) is that it takes something that is basically Buffy's dream scenario - people finally realizing what a literal hell hole Sunnydale is and taking action to change that - and it turns it upside down by making it all go horribly wrong.
 
Ideally, the authorities should be involved, if for nothing else because Buffy and the Scoobs can't be everything.

I've always taken it as the opposite. Several times throughout the show, they show what happens when the police/military (basically any form of a human built-and-run institution responsible for the welfare of people) get involved with the occult, and it all goes to hell. The police in Ted just blamed Buffy for killing Ted and didn't really interrogate her properly, in Becoming Part 1 and 2 they weren't really doing anything useful except trying to wrongly arrest Buffy, in Gingerbread they can't handle it at all and try to kill Buffy and Willow, and throughout season 4 we see that the Initiative was a failed attempt to harness the powers of demons.

The human daytime world wasn't built to fight demons and vampires. The rules are different and the objectives don't line up. As Angel says in In The Dark, the people who need help during the day have the police, it was set up for them. The other side of that is the things that go bumped in the night won't be stopped by police officers. I just don't see how they can be much help to the Scoobies.
 
I've always taken it as the opposite. Several times throughout the show, they show what happens when the police/military (basically any form of a human built-and-run institution responsible for the welfare of people) get involved with the occult, and it all goes to hell.

Well, that's because there wouldn't be a show if the army was to take over the slaying. 🙂

The police in Ted just blamed Buffy for killing Ted

Buffy blamed Buffy for killing Ted, so it's kind of hard to blame the police in this case.

Basically, I think hiding the truth about vampires and demons helps them a lot more than it does humans. But the issue is never really tackled (even in S8
when it becomes totally obvious to the average Joe that vampires exist
) because that's the premise of the show and without it our heroes would quickly become all but irrelevant. I can live with that but I don't think it makes much sense for the Scoobies to protect the secret - it's a secret which puts people in danger because of their ignorance. Would it be so bad if the people of Sunnydale left the town? Or at least knew how to recognize vampires?
 
Well, that's because there wouldn't be a show if the army was to take over the slaying. 🙂



Buffy blamed Buffy for killing Ted, so it's kind of hard to blame the police in this case.

Basically, I think hiding the truth about vampires and demons helps them a lot more than it does humans. But the issue is never really tackled (even in S8
when it becomes totally obvious to the average Joe that vampires exist
) because that's the premise of the show and without it our heroes would quickly become all but irrelevant. I can live with that but I don't think it makes much sense for the Scoobies to protect the secret - it's a secret which puts people in danger because of their ignorance. Would it be so bad if the people of Sunnydale left the town? Or at least knew how to recognize vampires?


Oh man, the thought that this show didn't exist...I'd be a lot less happy! 😀

True, Buffy blamed herself over Ted. My point was that in the interrogation, the officer didn't seem to interested in the fact that Buffy was using self-defense. Which, granted, it seems unlikely that a typical girl of Buffy's size wouldn't at least show a sign of her being hit. But, his attitude showed that he obviously he wasn't buying Buffy's story too much.
 
My point was that in the interrogation, the officer didn't seem to interested in the fact that Buffy was using self-defense.

But she wasn't. Slap in the face doesn't usually mean your life is threatened. Why do you think Buffy felt so guilty about Ted? She has caused human deaths in self-defence without feeling guilty - the zookeeper in The Pack, Gwendolyne Post, Catherine Madison (as far as Buffy knew), etc. Buffy very much wanted an excuse to beat the crap out of Ted and that's what she did. No, she didn't intend to kill him but using such an excessive force on someone who was supposed to be much weaker than her wasn't exactly one of her shining moments.

That said, Sunnydale police officers weren't deeply stupid they should have noticed that the "body" of Ted was in fact was a robot. 😀
 
But she wasn't. Slap in the face doesn't usually mean your life is threatened. Why do you think Buffy felt so guilty about Ted?

Buffy thought something was up with Ted. Be it that he was a demon, evil, or whatever, she had a inkling that it was beyond "I don't like mom's new boyfriend." But she listened to the advice from Angel, Willow, and Xander that she just needed to cool it. So she did. Until he hit her. I always took it that as soon as Ted slapped Buffy, she took it as "ok, he's a demon/evil." I don't think she just thought it was a dude hitting her. So, I think that's why she wailed on him the way she did. But when his neck snapped and died and he was taken away like a dead person, it hit her that he was a person. Regardless if he was evil or not, he was a person she killed.

So, I agree with you that she just looking for an excuse to wail on him. And her intentions weren't necessarily to kill him, and when she did she realized her mistake, but as soon as he hit her first, it was a sign that he was evil and force was ok.
 
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