Gunn and Fred: Siedelgate

Kana

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I wasn't sure where to put this, because it's kind of a shipping issue, but where do people stand on the whole Gunn killing Fred's old professor for her? Was it a gallant attempt to save her soul or was it a patronizing attempt for him to hold on Fred as the perfect woman on a pedestal?

Shouldn't Fred have to right to determine her own decisions, whether they are right or wrong? Also Did Gunn really save Fred from her guilt? She still ended up feeling guilt because he darkened his own soul so that hers would be supposedly saved.

What do you think?
 
I see it more like sharing the guilt.

Fred did open the portal and was determined to throw Siedel in it (don't remember which type of hell to). But to break the guy's neck, supposedly sparing him of possible torture or a more terrible death, this type of lesser evil is quite confusing, especially when choosing to believe there is a future greater evil.

I'm sorry, I didn't answer to your questions.
 
I know Fred was upset, but doing the same thing back to the professor is not right in my book. Sending people to scary dimension is wrong and she knew it. The professor is evil in Fred's book, if she did what he did, she's evil too. So Gunn saved her soul. I just don't understand why he had to kill him before pushing him down into the portal. I think they're both wrong. But I blame Fred more.
 
I wasn't sure where to put this, because it's kind of a shipping issue, but where do people stand on the whole Gunn killing Fred's old professor for her? Was it a gallant attempt to save her soul or was it a patronizing attempt for him to hold on Fred as the perfect woman on a pedestal?

Shouldn't Fred have to right to determine her own decisions, whether they are right or wrong? Also Did Gunn really save Fred from her guilt? She still ended up feeling guilt because he darkened his own soul so that hers would be supposedly saved.

What do you think?

I think it is a bit of both. Fred had been through a horrific existence in Plylea and she had proven herself strong and a real fighter. However, throughout all of this she was still ultimately a victim fighting back, there is a certain amount of righteous indignation that goes with that. By casting that professor into some horrific dimension she was inviting a level of evil into herself that I don't know if she could have handled. I think this question would be a hell of a lot easier to answer if we had seen Fred making dark choices later on.

Personally, I admire what Gunn did for Fred. He actually did know the realities of what she was doing and knew that once you sully yourself like that, you can't ever undo it. If I was in his position I can't say I would have acted any differently.
 
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