Spoiler! Gunn

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I just finished AtF, and I have to say that Gunn's storyline was the most interesting to me. I liked him on ATS but I didn't see him quite as central as Wesley or Cordelia. I didn't think I'd like it that they vamped him, but wow! But I'm not quite understanding it. I mean, he was a vampire, but he was different. He didn't have a soul, but he...cared. I think. Or maybe he was just doing it all for power or to get back at Angel. And I think that was part of it, but he seemed to not want the ultimate destruction that he thought Angel was going to be a part of (and that we're still unclear as to whether he will indeed be that).

Any insights?
 
I loved it. Gunn was a lot like Spike over on Buffy when Spike was trying to do good, act more human, but for different reasons. Gunn's reasons for trying to fight the vampire in him were because of his deep hatred for vampires. He couldn't stand becoming what he spent his whole life fighting against - what killed his sister. So, it was great to see how he would handle it...clearly he couldn't hold off the demon in him. If anything, him trying to suppress it only made him more dangerous when he lost his temper, attacking everyone in his way. Plus him being fine with all of time ending wasn't too good either 😛
 
I just finished After the Fall myself, and Gunn was a great part of it. I liked him on the T.V. series, but like you said, I never felt he was as important to the show as any of the other main characters, and by S5 he takes a big step back (even though they do try and keep him interesting).

But he was a huge part of After the Fall. Some of it was a little confusing at times, but I thought Gunn as a vampire was really, really interesting. A huge part of Gunn during the series was how much he despised vampires (except for Angel and Spike I guess), so for him to be transformed into one was a new take I wasn't expecting. I don't think he was "good", but he just couldn't accept or wrap his head around that he had become what he hated, and all he wanted was to escape that.

After the Fall was a great story, but there were parts of it that might require a rereading to fully understand. I didn't really get why W&H needed to bestow the visions onto Gunn in the first place, and what he really had to do with W&H's whole plot.
 
I loved it. Gunn was a lot like Spike over on Buffy when Spike was trying to do good, act more human, but for different reasons. Gunn's reasons for trying to fight the vampire in him were because of his deep hatred for vampires. He couldn't stand becoming what he spent his whole life fighting against - what killed his sister. So, it was great to see how he would handle it...clearly he couldn't hold off the demon in him. If anything, him trying to suppress it only made him more dangerous when he lost his temper, attacking everyone in his way. Plus him being fine with all of time ending wasn't too good either 😛

How could Gunn fight the vampire within if he had no soul? Unless he did and became another Angel or Spike?
 
To me, Gunn as a vampire wasn't good at all,he just THOUGHT that he was good. He was more or less in denial of what he really was. No "good" person, human or otherwise, would hold 4 Slayers captive so that he could kill, then resurrect them constantly.
 
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