Question Hamilton's blood boosting Angel and possibly Harmony?

[Napoleon]

Angel got a power boost from drinking Hamilton's blood. Do you think he retained this boost indefinitely as a vampire? Time was turned back to the point before LA was sent to hell. This would mean that Angel was still a vampire that gained a boost from Hamilton's blood?

But during the LA timeline, do you think Angel retained the boost he had from Hamilton's blood, even as a human? Which explains why he was such a resilient human and not turn back to Liam the tavern brawler's level? Of course, being human, couldn't retain his vampiric advantages, but retained, as much as his human body can contain, the boost he got from Hamilton?

Also, during the scenes where Harmony was sleeping with Hamilton, it was shown that Harmony had blood on her lips/chin and Hamilton was also wiping his mouth from what seems to be blood. Next, Harmony grabs a glass full of either red wine or blood. From this, do you think that Harmony consensually drank some of Hamilton's blood and maybe Hamilton tried tasting Harmony's blood as well for kinkyness sake or was that blood simply from Harmony drinking a glass full of blood. But then again, if it wasn't wine, and it was blood, why would Hamilton be wiping his own mouth from what looks like blood.

Why would I think Harmony drank Hamilton's blood, which resulted in a boost of her power? Well, Harmony killed a slayer named Soledad in self-defense. One of the generic slayers that got activated by Willow's scythe spell. Soledad tried to dust Harmony. BUT a slayer nonetheless. Harmony is just a regular vampire and should be handled easily by Giles or Wood. Yet, Harmony killed a slayer? A SLAYER? Sure, a slayer that isn't of Buffy or Faith's caliber but a slayer nonetheless.

Do you think Harmony being able to kill a slayer was because of the off-screen blood she drank off Hamilton, if she really did do so? It just doesn't make sense how a preppy and girly vampire like Harmony, that has no real martial arts skills or even general street fighting skill, being a weak human girl before being a vampire, could kill even a new slayer.

What are your thoughts?

Did Angel, as a vampire after time was reverted before LA was sent to hell, retain the boost he had from Hamilton indefinitely? Did Angel retain the Hamilton-blood boost, but lost his vampiric strength, as a human when LA was sent to hell?

Is the evidence that Harmony was able to kill a slayer, enough to assume that she drank some of Hamilton's blood while they were sleeping together? And do you think she did?

 

[Lyri]

Are we 100% sure that Harmony actually drank from Hamilton? As far as I can remember, all we saw was Harmony with blood on her lips while she was in bed with Hamilton - there's no real evidence that the blood came from Hamilton himself.

Also, if it DID come from Hamilton, it seems very, VERY sloppy of him. Once Angel drank from him, the boost was instantaneous. If Harmony drank from Hamilton and Hamilton saw the boost she got, and he STILL let himself get maneuvered into a situation where Angel was able to drink from him...well, Hamilton deserves all he got.

Also, there was nothing that was said about the boost Angel got being permanent. Once the battle is over, when he's back in LA, he goes back to being his regular self. Nothing is ever made about him retaining any sort of extras from Hamilton's blood. I'd like to think that, if it was a thing, it would have been mentioned. So, Harmony, if she DID drink from Hamilton (which is a BIG if, IMO) she killed Soledad years later, at least two. I don't think there would have been any left over effects.

As was said in 'Fool For Love', you don't have to be a special, souped up vampire in order to be able to kill the Slayer - all you need is one lucky shot, like the vampire who stabbed Buffy in that very episode. If Riley hadn't been on her tail, Buffy would have bled out in that cemetery, because she couldn't even walk after she was stabbed. With no way to contact anyone (because remember, folks, cellphones in Sunnydale were only for the rich until 2002, lol) she would have died. And that vampire was no one. He wasn't anything special.

I have no problem believing that a vampire like Harmony would be able to kill a Slayer. And this is coming from someone who LOATHES Harmony. She is my most hated character in the entire verse. But I have to get her what she's due, as much as I do hate her. She's a vampire. She has the skills to kill if she needs to - she just doesn't like to most of the time.

I'm sure there were more Slayers in the past who were taken out by vampires more like the Punk guy and Harmony than there were by vampires like Angelus and Spike.

 

[Napoleon]

No, there was no 100% evidence that it was Hamilton's blood that Harmony was drinking but Hamilton was likely having sex with Harmony. Isn't it a thing with vampire sex that they drink each other's blood? Darla and Angelus did while they were having sex. BUT why did Harmony have blood on her lips? Possibly after drinking from Hamilton OR from that glass of red stuff that could possibly have been blood, if it wasn't just red wine.

The reason why I think Angel retained Hamilton's blood boost, was because of the things he was doing as a human in hell LA. Everyone thought he was still a vampire because of the feats he was achieving. There's no way Liam is capable of any of those. So I hypothesized, maybe he retained Hamilton's blood boost but lost all vampiric strengths, being turned human. And that boost was what kept him strong even as a human. Example, if Liam had a strength value or 5, turning Liam into a vampire turned that value to 70. After drinking Hamilton's blood, that value turned to 100. Now, being turned back human again would leave him with just 35, because the vampiric boost of 65 was removed. Do you know what I mean?

Of course, after time is reverted, that value goes back to 100 again, since he's back to being a vampire. Why I think this way? Angel staked The Master (resurrected by the Seed of Wonder) easily. I just don't see this being easily done by Angel. The Master was much older and much more powerful than Angel was. The Master was powerful enough to kill Buffy, although season 1 Buffy. I haven't read the comics but just read the wiki, so correct me if Angel got another boost between the time of the end of the Angel TV series and when he killed The Master. He basically was just wearing a mask when he was Twilight, right? It wasn't until the twilight dimension was born when he got a boost. Or am I wrong?

I have another theory even, maybe Drogyn boosted Angel. Drogyn is human, and just like Hamilton, Drogyn has mystical properties in his blood. How else did Drogyn live for so long and also been known to be well capable of dispatching Spike easily?

Why I would think that Drogyn's mystical blood boosted Angel, the same way Hamilton's did? Because look at how quickly, in the very first minutes of the "Not Fade Away" episode, Angel was able to restrain Spike. Sure, they really weren't trying to kill each other, but Spike truly did get pissed off and tried to beat up Angel. The way Spike reacted, it seemed like he wasn't just pretending (in order to make it look like they all were against Angel).

Well yeah, all you need is one lucky shot but that likelihood is going to be very low. Just as low as you being able to knock out a UFC MMA champion. It's possible but the probability of it, if you are a regular untrained person, is extremely low.

Wesley and Xander was capable of dusting regular male vampires. Yet Harmony, a regular female vampire, with no special fighting abilities, killed a generic Slayer? This Slayer would have had to have been much weaker than Xander if she couldn't handle a high-maintenance beauty-queen type dumb-blonde vamp like Harmony.

 

[Kean]

After the Fall is completely explicit in showing people that Angel was able to fool people in HellA into thinking he was still a vampire because he was being healed by the last of W&H's mystical remedies. It was magic, not Hamiliton.

As for Twilight, he became super powered pre-S8 Buffy. He was given all the powers - superstrength, flying, being impervious to harm, speed (as Buffy would later get them in the Tibet arc) and it was their combined um... energy that created the new reality, the reality didn't give him the power.