Happiest country

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Do you live in one of the happiest countries? Do you agree with the rankings? Would you move to a happier country? What makes you happy about your country?

20 happiest countries in the world​

  1. 1.Finland
  2. 2.Denmark
  3. 3.Iceland
  4. 4.Israel
  5. 5.Netherlands
  6. 6.Sweden
  7. 7.Norway
  8. 8.Switzerland
  9. 9.Luxembourg
  10. 10.New Zealand
  11. 11.Austria
  12. 12.Australia
  13. 13.Canada
  14. 14.Ireland
  15. 15.United States
  16. 16.Germany
  17. 17.Belgium
  18. 18.Czechia
  19. 19.United Kingdom
  20. 20.Lithuania


 
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Wow, Israel at #4 really surprises me, considering all the unrest they have there. I live in the US, and we don't seem very happy lately! But I suppose we would rank decently on some of their criteria like GDP and life expectancy. That just means I'm going to have to live longer being grumpy. 😀
 
Aren't the Scandinavian countries known for having high suicide rates?

Maybe that's why they score so highly on the contented metre; all the miserable people are gone.


Not surprised by The Netherlands or Iceland; they always seem very chill generally.


Every time I visit Ireland its full of obviously miserable people going on about how hard done-by they are/have been. I feel that they would want to lie to outsiders about how happy they are to put on a facade; its that kind of place.


I cannot fathom why Canada id so high, at least these days.
 
United Kingdom is too low.

Freedom to make life choices: Based on the question "Are you satisfied or dissatisfied with your freedom to choose what you do with your life?", participants are asked to take into account all human rights inherent to human beings regardless of race, sex, nationality, ethnicity, language or religion. It also includes the right to life and liberty, freedom from slavery and other torture, freedom of opinion and expression and the right to work and education.

This one should score a 10/10 for the UK, I'm very proud of the NHS and what Tony Blair did with universities, in this country everyone gets free healthcare and the right to higher education no matter what.

The social support and generosity could be lower for the UK but I think this is linked to the welfare that the government gives its people- in countries where the government doesn't support them like that people rely more on each other and that's why families and communities might be closer to each other than here in the UK.
 
Um, it wasn't even meant to be a joke, it was genuine wonderment at some kind of cognitive dissonance that this survey was causing me... 🙁

Maybe try to phrase it less callously next time. It sounds very flippant and unkind.
 
Aren't the Scandinavian countries known for having high suicide rates?

Maybe that's why they score so highly on the contented metre; all the miserable people are gone.

Excellent point. As far as I know, those countries take care of their citizens from the cradle to the grave. This sounds like Utopia, of course. But perhaps a relatively "easy" life causes boredom and a lack of purpose. In many cases, this might spur some to take their own lives.
 
Norway would be a dream to live in! If it were easier to emigrate, I would likely move there.

Though it is surprising to say the US is “happy”, I think compared to other countries, it is. The freedom allowed by living here creates a lot of opportunities for people to pursue their own interests. It doesn’t always work, but the promise and potential is there at the core, which is more than you can say for somewhere like North Korea or China.
 
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You're still young enough to travel on work visas ;)
While I would not want to move to Norway or Finland, if my worst nightmare came true and I was told I had to reincarnate, I'd try to pick Norway or Finland to be born in (I have specific reasons why but I don't want to say, especially as I'd feel compelled to describe what I'd see as the downsides as well, and to show I'm not just staring with rosy glasses, which I'm sure would not be appreciated).

That said, I'd beg for other options. I think many here would be prepared to make statements on my behalf that Earth is not my planet! 😛

The suicide rate in Scandinavian countries are attributed to long, lonely winters where people have more access too liquor (despite the insane price of it, even taking into account how much they make) than daylight at least half the year. There seems to be a lot of people distant from each other even when packed closely together, even more pronounced than (some of) the US, which likely adds to it.

But one can only make general statements since conditions vary widely even in a small nation or state (or even districts). And not just that, but circumstances. Some people can be really surprised where happiness can be found, just as they can with misery, and I think personal expectations (with the expectations of others a distant second) are also the biggest factor in happiness, which can be counterproductive at both the highest and lowest ends of the scale (but not necessarily).

While statistics, when done very carefully, have their uses, I think they're way too easy to read too much into (and miss too much) even when those gathering the stats do so in good faith and methodology (which is not my default view of them). Even when accurate as stated, it's still too easy to miss something or make a mistake when dealing with someone on the individual level.
 
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Yeah Earth is not my planet either!
This year's happiness rankings are based on the three-year average of these life evaluations taken in 2020, 2021 and 2022.
Based on that, I am not surprised Australia scored so high! During covid, welfare support payments were literally doubled so that the newly unemployed didnt get trauma from the poverty. Now its back to usual. The inequality is worse as they try to rein in inflation by keeping the poorest as poor as possible.

Yeah I agree they are probably not surveying the fringes of society. The experience of people up north in the flood zone (many unregistered at birth) is very different to those in inner city Melbourne.
Even places like Canada have MAiD in place for disabled people who cant find supports. Its really how suicide should have been from the start though, they cant say some suffering is greater than others so only some can legally die, it needs to be across the board accessable if there is now a right to die. Great happiness thread I started ay😝

More generally, it says people are happier living in countries where the gap between the happiest and the unhappiest respondents in a nation is smaller.

I think this is really true. When you're surrounded by community in the same boat, its a whole lot easier to cope. Also as @Bop mentioned, there is a reliance on community when support services are inadequate. This seems to be evolving - I will be interested to see how the world is shaped as gen Z ages. Maybe thats for another thread.


The only other place I'd ever consider (but never do) is New Zealand. Close enough to here, but with no snakes 😉
 
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It is maybe a bit unfair with Australia on the list though because I think it got to #12 because Australians have a unique mode of transport which is traveling on the backs of kangaroos- while the rest of the world travels in cars and buses. Traveling via kangeroo may be slower but with the benefits of fresh air and adrenaline it's worth it and it's obviously keeping them happy.
 
Excellent point. As far as I know, those countries take care of their citizens from the cradle to the grave. This sounds like Utopia, of course. But perhaps a relatively "easy" life causes boredom and a lack of purpose. In many cases, this might spur some to take their own lives.

Let's get off this line of discussion, please.
 
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