Harry Potter Fans *SPOILERS*
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Nooo! I can't believe there's more than one of you in existence! 😛
Why do you do it, out of curiosity? I just find it such an odd thing to do. Would you watch the end of a film first too or is it just books? (I realise that sounds SO sarcastic but I'm genuinely just asking lol)
I don't always but sometimes I will flick to end. I didn't do it with Harry Potter though. I will often do it with one of those awful drawn out "secret" books you know those ones "Tessa had a perfect life blah blah blah etc etc etc ..... soon though her world will come crashing down as she finds that nobody can bury the past". Is it just me or is every other book you pick up nowadays has similar blurb to this? The secret is very often not worth the over written lack of plot that happens in between times. I usually give them a couple of chapters before I jump to the end then decide whether to keep reading.
/RANT OVER
I read a LOT. 😛
Flannen
Definitely, I find a lot of new books just have the same generic plot poorly executed. This is why I am not ashamed of being a book snob who sticks to 'literature'!
Spikefan31
Effulgent
Very rarely though you can find real gems. I couldn't cope with reading just literature, sometimes you want steak, sometimes you want hamburgers!
Recently though the crap/good/amazing ratio is something like 25/3/1. Honestly I have thrown books across the room lately the writing is so lazy. I really should become and author they clearly will just publish anything nowadays. I read around 6 books a week, honestly I think I have a problem....
Flannen
No you don't have a problem! I read an awful lot. Have you read Stieg Larsson's books? They're amazing and so full of twists and turns.
On the subject of the epilogue - I hated it. I thought that the ending in Dumbledore's office was absolutely perfect, and the tacked-on epilogue ruined it. It was just completely unnecessary - what exactly did it add to the story? We learned that Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny got married and had kids... which was already implied would happen anyway. And that All Was Well, which again, we had already learned. It was just a needless waste of space that hampered the imagination of fanfic writers, forcing them into AU territory. And don't even get me started on how childishly bad the writing style was - it was like after the writing had slowly matured and became more complex over the last 7 books, it suddenly reverted to the PS style, and that was very jarring.
I didn't really like the Albus Severus bit either. Now, let me get this straight - Snape is my favourite HP character, I think he is an incredibly brave man. But I don't buy that Harry, who had to endure 6 years of verbal (and very occasionally physical) abuse at the hands of Snape would all of a sudden name his child after him just because.... because why again? Because he turned out to be a good guy? Well, Harry already knew/thought that pre-HBP, and he still didn't like the guy. He new that his father had bullied him too, and still didn't like him. The only new thing he found out was that Snape was in love with his mother - which I hardly think would turn someone from vehemently hating someone to liking someone to the point of naming a child after them. I do think that Snape was one of the bravest men Harry ever knew, but I don't believe that Harry would ever think that.
I didn't really like the Albus Severus bit either. Now, let me get this straight - Snape is my favourite HP character, I think he is an incredibly brave man. But I don't buy that Harry, who had to endure 6 years of verbal (and very occasionally physical) abuse at the hands of Snape would all of a sudden name his child after him just because.... because why again? Because he turned out to be a good guy? Well, Harry already knew/thought that pre-HBP, and he still didn't like the guy. He new that his father had bullied him too, and still didn't like him. The only new thing he found out was that Snape was in love with his mother - which I hardly think would turn someone from vehemently hating someone to liking someone to the point of naming a child after them. I do think that Snape was one of the bravest men Harry ever knew, but I don't believe that Harry would ever think that.
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Spikefan31
about the ending in Dumbledore's office and about the Snape thing. So pretty much, I agree with everything. :)
Summerlilly
Covert Superhero
I'm a HUGE HP fan and I'm kicking myself right now because I haven't read the books in a while and can't remember very well. GrrrArgh!! I thought that the main purpose of the hocruxes was to preserve Voldemort's spirit.....several ways for him to possibly be reborn or return later????
MandaMeena
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I agree. I remember reading the last chapter before the epilogue and feeling a nice sense of completion. I was excited to read the epilogue, because, well, more Potter, but I think that I would have liked them either way.
I'd like to share a little snippet from my life here regarding HP. A little while after the 7th book had been released, a local library was celebrating the OotP dvd release by throwing a Harry Potter party after closing hours. I went there, the dvd was playing throughout the celebration and I was sorted into Hufflepuff (meh). After we were all sorted, they gave us trivia sheets to fill out. The person with the highest score from their house would represent that house in the trivia contest. I won for Hufflepuff (naturally), and they asked us questions that were pretty easy, and nobody was missing them. So, they had a sudden death round. One of the librarians left, then came back with the 7th book in hand and asked,
"On what page in the Deathly Hallows do Ron and Hermione first kiss?" The other people stood there, thinking, since the person who guessed the closest would win. I was impatient, so I leaned over to one of the librarians and said "can I give you my answer now?" She said yes, so I whispered "625."
Basically, I won this sweet lightning bolt necklace! Woot! 😀 ahem, aaaaand *scene*
I'd like to share a little snippet from my life here regarding HP. A little while after the 7th book had been released, a local library was celebrating the OotP dvd release by throwing a Harry Potter party after closing hours. I went there, the dvd was playing throughout the celebration and I was sorted into Hufflepuff (meh). After we were all sorted, they gave us trivia sheets to fill out. The person with the highest score from their house would represent that house in the trivia contest. I won for Hufflepuff (naturally), and they asked us questions that were pretty easy, and nobody was missing them. So, they had a sudden death round. One of the librarians left, then came back with the 7th book in hand and asked,
"On what page in the Deathly Hallows do Ron and Hermione first kiss?" The other people stood there, thinking, since the person who guessed the closest would win. I was impatient, so I leaned over to one of the librarians and said "can I give you my answer now?" She said yes, so I whispered "625."
Basically, I won this sweet lightning bolt necklace! Woot! 😀 ahem, aaaaand *scene*
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Spikefan31
Awesome! Congrats! :D
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InsaneMystic
you brainy geek. (sw)
Ok I just went back and reread bits to try and work it out. The conclusions I came to were;
1) The stone, Dumbledore wants Harry to know what it is to make things easier for him at the end. Still though the Hallows quest is a pretty daft way to go about it.
And a question for experts (I'm looking at you MandaMeena 😛). Am I right in thinking that the reason Voldemort failed to kill Harry was because the Elder wand was technically Harrys? If so would Voldemort succeeded if Dumbledores intention of Snape being the master of the wand was true?
You know when I first read it it all made sense, it was only when my little sister asked me what happened I got all confused.
1) The stone, Dumbledore wants Harry to know what it is to make things easier for him at the end. Still though the Hallows quest is a pretty daft way to go about it.
And a question for experts (I'm looking at you MandaMeena 😛). Am I right in thinking that the reason Voldemort failed to kill Harry was because the Elder wand was technically Harrys? If so would Voldemort succeeded if Dumbledores intention of Snape being the master of the wand was true?
You know when I first read it it all made sense, it was only when my little sister asked me what happened I got all confused.
Wishing Oceans
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I do it too, lol. I'm not even entirely sure why. It's just... Those last pages are so tempting, and they're right there... It helps curb my curiosity. I wouldn't ever do it with a movie though. That would take too much work and time. 😛
I didn't hate the epilogue... Although the names kind of made me want to shoot myself. "Albus Severus"? What the hey? She wrote, like, the most unoriginal set of names humanly possible.
Of course, I haven't re-read DH... Ever. I had it pre-ordered, read it in a day, never read it again (except to re-read my favorite chapter... Over and over. 😛 ).
Big Damn Hero
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I just re-read this today 🙂
The reason Voldemort couldn't kill Harry is that he used Harry's blood to resurect himself, which tied Harry to Voldemort whilst that final piece of Voldemorts soul resided inside him. When Voldemort hit Harry with the killing curse in DH he severed the link that bound them together (Voldemorts soul residing in Harry; and Harry's blood magic connection from his mum residing in Voldemort) and so when Harry killed him later on he could properly kill him.
That makes no sense but it's late and I can't be arsed to re-write!
The reason Voldemort couldn't kill Harry is that he used Harry's blood to resurect himself, which tied Harry to Voldemort whilst that final piece of Voldemorts soul resided inside him. When Voldemort hit Harry with the killing curse in DH he severed the link that bound them together (Voldemorts soul residing in Harry; and Harry's blood magic connection from his mum residing in Voldemort) and so when Harry killed him later on he could properly kill him.
That makes no sense but it's late and I can't be arsed to re-write!
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Spikefan31
It took me forever to understand that
Wishing Oceans
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Yep, that's what happened... Man DH hurt my brain. Too many plot twists for one children's novel! (I loved it though. 😉 )
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Big Damn Hero
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The wand was important because Voldemort wanted the wand, but didn't realise the significance of it (as in, he wanted the wand because it was "THE Deathstick/the elder wand"). The whole search for the Hallows for Harry was him realising that he didn't need the power for himself; that he just had to deal with defeating the Horcrux's (is that the plural of Horcrux?) and in doing so he became the true uniter (is that the word? it's 1:40am here, I'm tired) of them.
Yes I get the significance of Harry given them up and going after horcruxes. I don't get why Dumbledore left the book to Hermione effectively setting them on the path for the Hallows. It makes zero sense to me, seriously why bother?