Has Angeleus ever killed a Slayer?

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Before Angel got his soul and when he was Angeleus, has ever killed a Slayer? Just something I've always wanted to know
 
I think killing Slayers was more Spike's thing. Spike sought out trouble, whereas Angelus seemed to be a little more cautious. I don't think he would have been stupid enough to pick a fight with a slayer.

So I don't think he ever killed any. It was never mentioned, and I think if Angelus had ever killed a slayer, he would have held it over spike in someway 😛
 
Pretty sure he didn't. At least not in the show, not sure about the comics after the whole Twilight business and all of that. It really just takes watching...What was it? Fool for Love, where they show more specific flashbacks, to know that he didn't. He seemed to fear slayers, he warned Spike to stay away from them. He was more than happy to unlive his unlife by slaughtering helpless victims, but they made it pretty clear that he stayed away from the danger picking a fight with a slayer would have brought him.
 
It was pretty well established on the show that Angelus avoided any situation where he would have to fight, preferring the "He who sucks and runs away lives to suck another day" kind of thing. With that kind of philosophy, avoiding any Slayer, or even any competent vampire hunter, would have been #1 on Angelus' "to do today" list.
 
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Is that why Angel has this weird thing going with Spike [them bickering like an old married couple]? It would make sense [him being jealous pre-soul because Spike killed two Slayers]. 😛
 
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Is that why Angel has this weird thing going with Spike [them bickering like an old married couple]? It would make sense [him being jealous pre-soul because Spike killed two Slayers]. 😛
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If memory serves me correctly, it was later established, in Season 5 of "Angel," that Spike killed his first Slayer AFTER attaining his soul. At that time, he was only tolerated by Darla, who complained that he was no longer the "old" Angelus, since he, at that time, only fed on evil people, like murderers, rapists, and probably the occasional Democrat. Possibly he saw what Spike had accomplished, and the praise that he received from doing it, and was jealous. That would also explain why Angelus made such a point of taunting and belittling Spike in Season 2 of "Buffy," though, of course, we didn't get the entire story until "Fool For Love," in Season 4 of "Buffy," and "Damaged," in Season 5 of "Angel." Angelus was reestablishing his claim as the alpha male of the pack, figuratively. Watch those two episodes in reverse order, and then Angelus' animosity toward Spike in Season 2 is explained.
 
If I am not mistaken Angel re-joins the Fanged Four during the Boxer Rebellion for the first time in two years after Darla kicks him out in Romania. He spends maybe a week or so with them , during which time he tries to impress Darla by going back to feeding on people - but as she soon discovers he cannot bring himself to kill an innocent, but only kills murderers and rapists ( which are plenty of around during the rebellion as the streets are teeming with people pillaging and killing other people). After Darla discovers him trying to save the missionaries from her ( just to remind you of the actual content of the episode vs the re-imagined 'feud' supposedly going between Angel and Spike there) Angel runs away from her and the group again - carrying the baby. Supposedly he never rejoins the group or meets Spike until the submarine episode in mid 40 ties. Spike kills his second Slayer on his own , again, in NY 40 or 50 years later, but it is implied that he stalks and tries to tackle a few more - but they all either die before he gets to them or prove to be too strong. Now, for the life of me I cannot see any opportunity for Angel to 'get jealous' over Spike's 'achievements' during the brief stunt in China - he was too preoccupied with his inner conflict of not being able to see people as cattle anymore vs his need to belong with somebody - anybody - even Darla. So, yeah, the situation was not as simple as Spike-y getting drunk on the aphrodisiac of the 16 years girl's blood - calling for her mother - and Angel feeling 'jealous' while trying to save a baby from Darla. Consequently, Angelus upon his reappearance just stepped back into his own shoes and started slapping Spike back into submissive role because it was in his basic nature - not that he needed an extra drive for it. He could not have known about the second Slayer, and besides, I think he thought that attacking Slayers was blazing stupid, not any kind of vampiric badge of honor. When he was faced with Faith later on he preferred to deal with her in his signature subtler, backstabbing way - same way he took down the Beast. ( Mind that I don't find either Spike or Angelus in any way appealing as personalities - but I kind of prefer smarter villains.)
 
I doubt it, if he had I'm sure it would have been mentioned especially since Spike counted his slayer kills as bragging rights.
 
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