Heres a thought about the finale....

She actually isnt a slayer anymore She just has the strength, wheather people like it or not Faith is the slayer at the moment and she has the gift that surpasses to another when she dies.
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I'd actually debate this. At no time, since Kendra, has Buffy actually been given the option, by Giles or the Council, to hang up her slayer hat. She's talked about it, first when Kendra appeared and then when she was considering going away for collage. But it was never really an option. The show has always given the message that Buffy is a slayer, even if she isn't the slayer.

Anyway, I like the Buffy jumping into Hell idea....it's a good cliff hanger and it's sort of like dying but not. She can always come back, but they could write it so it wasn't like being brought back from the dead.
 
She may still have the connection, but she passed it on allready, so she can't do that again, that's a one-time exclusive!
 
buffy can't beat down the grrrh arrgh monster(ups to mr thurmond)...she'll be crapped on in hell...

jail can breed bad ass street fighters...my uncle packed on allot of muscle when he came out...tyson coming under the wing of Don King is what did him in mentally, physically, and financially (he's in debt for like millions to various companies)

all i know is that...buffy better go out in a blaze of glory...i'm thinking leave most of the drama out for one melee episode....something like 45 minutes of bad ass carnage...that'll be ill
 
She may still have the connection, but she passed it on allready, so she can't do that again, that's a one-time exclusive!
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I disagree. I think if the power exists it can be passed on.

It doesn't have to be passed on by the conventional method of dying. New things pop on Buffy all the time. A new way to pass the power on is not unacceptable by the laws of reason, or impossible to imagine. I can think of 3 ways to do it off the top of my head. I'm sure the geniuses at ME could create many more if they decided to.
 
Originally posted by nerd4hire
I disagree. I think if the power exists it can be passed on.

It doesn't have to be passed on by the conventional method of dying. New things pop on Buffy all the time. A new way to pass the power on is not unacceptable by the laws of reason, or impossible to imagine. I can think of 3 ways to do it off the top of my head. I'm sure the geniuses at ME could create many more if they decided to.
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Then mention those three reasons 😛

When Buffy died her slayerness(?) passed on to Kendra, her gift passed on and only her strength remained. And when Kendra died it moved on to Faith.

Buffy has no gift anymore she just has the power, it cant be passed on cause it already disappeared when she drowned -- if it could be passed on again someone else would have gotten it when she died yet again in S5!

So I dont really think Buffy can pass on her power, not by magic not by anything cause there are some things that not even magic can break.
 
I don't know if Buffy can pass on her powers or not. I think it could be possible (No one can argue otherwise, because none of you are Joss Whedon 😛), it all depends on how it works inside Joss's head, not ours.

Hes played things out a little different than I'd see them several times. (For example, Spike being tortured with water, yet vampires aren't supposed to have breath?)

We'll just have to see in the end, how he wants to handle things. I think I've learned the way he thinks pretty well though, and I think the finale will turn out similar to what I've said.

And as to Faith, I don't see her fighting Buffy when she gets back, she was helped by Angel, and I think shes gonna help Buffy... right to the end.
 
So if I understand you correctly Razekial you're saying Buffy is not any kind of slayer, she's just a really strong girl. Is that correct?

The characters of Buffy tend to disagree with you. Do you remember this little blip from Buffy in Checkpoint (season 5)

BUFFY: You're Watchers. Without a Slayer, you're pretty much just watchin' Masterpiece Theater. You can't stop Glory. You can't do anything with the information you have except maybe publish it in the "Everyone Thinks We're Insane-O's Home Journal." (Pauses, addresses Travers again) So here's how it's gonna work. You're gonna tell me everything you know. Then you're gonna go away. (resumes pacing) You'll contact me if and when you have any further information about Glory. The magic shop will remain open. Mr. Giles will stay here as my official Watcher, reinstated at full salary...
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As a result of this we see Giles, Buffy, and the whole watcher's council recognizing Buffy as the slayer. What do you know that they don't?

I've heard Giles refer to Buffy as "a slayer", "his slayer", and "the slayer".

As recently as "Conversations with Dead People" Buffy refers to herself as "THE slayer".

If something has changed as far as the power she has access to, Buffy doesn't seem to know about it.

Yes, there is a lineage by which slayer power is activated upon the death of a previous slayer. This is clearly stated throughout the Buffy Myth. At no time however does anyone or anything in any Buffy episode I know of state that Buffy's power as the slayer has been lost, or even altered.

The power exists, therefore the opportunity exists to pass it on.

I told you I could click my imagination into gear and think of 3 ways how the power could be passed on. You asked me to share them with you. Very well, off the top of my head then here's 3;

It might be possible for Buffy to offer the power up through some kind of long forgotten, recently rediscovered spell.

Some kind of uber-witch or sorceror may know how to take the power from Buffy.

If the series were to end with Buffy taking a journey to Hell, the episode might end with Buffy finding it necessary to pass the power over to the forces of light and goodness in order to escape Hell. Perhaps only a souled non-powered ordinary human being has the right to petition for release from Hell.

None of this really matters though, does it? You tell me Buffy has no power to pass on. Again... by your interpretation, she's just a really strong girl. I disagree. It doesn't look like either of us are going to change the other's minds. I can live with that, but I'm still going to continue to say the power exists and it can be passed on.

Double Post (next time use the edit button!):

I had to shake my head, when I read your last post Perigon.

I must be reading it wrong.

Are you saying no one is allowed to try to guess what might be possible in the Buffyverse, except Joss Whedon, and you.
 
Hasn't it been stated that she already used the one-time-exclusive of passing the powers on? ... It has never been clearly stated wether the powers passes on with every death or only with the first! ... and since there's no new slayer, I guess it's only with the first death!
 
The reason slayers are attracted to Sunnydale is because they were instructed to do so by their watchers. Kendra mentioned that her watcher Zam Zambuto (sp?) sent her to Sunnydale to slay "vam-pyres" 😀. Although the whole "chosen one" status that each slayer has gets passed to another slayer, they only know where to go from their watcher. I don't think that the watcher's council doesn't necessarily keep tabs on each and every slayer because that would take too long in terms of response time. My guess is that the watcher's council receives assistance from a witch's coven, probably the same that infused Giles with good magic, who sense that danger is array in the world and sense that a slayer has died in battle. They are probably the ones who inform the WC about the situation, which prompts them to send a slayer to that location, or rather Sunnydale in this situation.
 
Sorry if it sounded like I was coming off like that nerd4hire. What I meant was, that Joss Whedon is the only one who can say whether or not somthing CAN or CANNOT happen in BTVS. Some people seem to be saying theories are absolutely out of the question, and I was just trying to set them straight.

I believe theorizing, and guessing is all part of the show, and I'd never say I had exclusive rights to it.
 
Don't you think the WC has it's own sorcerers and witches and stuff looking out danger, I don't think they're depending on some Coven, this should be something they have theirselves!
 
about this 'slayers are drawn to sunnydale' thing , I disagree Kendra was sent to SD by her Watcher because"a very dark power" was about to rise , and Faith fled to Sunnydale in an attempt to get away from that demon guy (can't remember his name) and stayed only because her watcher had been killed and the Council thought it best for her to stay close to Buffy so she can show her the ropes, that and they wre both placed in Wesley's watch.
 
Originally posted by sundae
about this 'slayers are drawn to sunnydale' thing , I disagree Kendra was sent to SD by her Watcher because"a very dark power" was about to rise , and Faith fled to Sunnydale in an attempt to get away from that demon guy (can't remember his name) and stayed only because her watcher had been killed and the Council thought it best for her to stay close to Buffy so she can show her the ropes, that and they wre both placed in Wesley's watch.
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If youve been watching Buffy/Angel for awhile you know that nothing is what it seems 😛 Exactly why would it be a coincidence they are all lead there in some way? Maybe its a supernatural force guiding them there, who the heck knows? 😀
 
it maybe a supernatural force but i think your looking into it too deeply, i do agree that the slayers are all conected to something but i don't think it's the Hellmouth i think it's just anything evil, they can sense it but not drawn to it , I think if by chioce Kendra and Faith would have eventually stumbled on to Sunnydale only by curiosity to see what Buffy was like to see how she fights etc.
If all the demons were only drawn to Sunnydale by the Hellmouth then why are there just as many demons in LA where Angel resides.
 
I think Slayers are drawn to places of great evil without any great good fighting it! ... So if let's say AI would have taken on SD and the Hellmouth, the Slayer would have been drawn to LA to fight W&H!

Faith fled to Sunnydale in an attempt to get away from that demon guy (can't remember his name)
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I believe it was Kakistos!
 
Re: hellmouth

Originally posted by Gaunt
does anyone remember if it is ever said that earth has only one hellmouth?
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No but the word hellmouth isnt defined as one, its simply defined as an opening to hell. But Giles did say something in the lines of "Buffy, the hellmouth is and has always been in Sunnydale."?
 
evil

I'd agree with an earlier post that slayers are drawn to anything evil. Has anyone seen the original buffy film where her body has a reaction to the undead i.e. cramps. she could feel the presence of evil. i think its like that something guides them to concentrations of evil
 
Well Giles said something along the lines early in season 1 that it wasn't coincidence Buffy moved to Sunnydale when she did. I mean I think it's obvious in this dimension she was meant to go to Sunnydale. But in Season 3 in the alternate demension Buffy never came to Sunnydale, and the Master's great scheme had become reality. So it's rather hard to say that the hell mouth attracts slayers.
 
Originally posted by Stake'em & Smile
Well Giles said something along the lines early in season 1 that it wasn't coincidence Buffy moved to Sunnydale when she did. I mean I think it's obvious in this dimension she was meant to go to Sunnydale. But in Season 3 in the alternate demension Buffy never came to Sunnydale, and the Master's great scheme had become reality. So it's rather hard to say that the hell mouth attracts slayers.
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And then 'The Master' killed Buffy as well, cause she didnt have the strength she had gained from Sunnydale and her friends (which is the only thing keeping her there and alive)
 
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