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Fireflower

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Hi all,

I'm in the process of watching Buffy's Season 4 and I do intend to go on.
Now I've read a lot about the Angel series on Amazone and my biggest question really is if there is a special sequence in which to watch them for the first time.

I've read that both story lines of both series are somewhat interlinked and that there are cross-over episodes. Now I'm at the beginning of Buffy's season 4 and haven't seen any of the Angel episodes yet.

So if you were watching it for the first time - in which sequence would you watch them all to get the most out of it?

I'm very thankful for all tipps. :: red ::

What's more, well originally I'm a Charmed fan, hope that doesn't offend you folks ;-) I like mystery series on the whole. Charmed has a special appeal for me - as does Willow - since I'm Wiccan trained myself when I was younger. I've gone on to the sister religion to wicca though - Druidry, because I love nature.

I have two black cats and I'm running a Forum too, the rest of the time I like to ride horses and go snowboarding in winter and, oh yeah, I'm a kickboxer since over one year now. I train regularly go on tournaments (fights) too.

Looking forward to have a few nice chats here.:grouphug:
 
Hi Fireflower! I so want to say Fireflyer. 😛 And if you don't get that reference you have something to look forward too. But anyway, :welcome: It doesn't hurt to watch Buffy and Angel at the same time but it isn't that bad to watch them one at a time either. So if you can't get hold of Angel season one straight away it's not like you need to stop watching Buffy until you do. Here you'll find people that dislike Charmed but also people that are big fans so I hope you won't stay away because not everyone is sharing that passion. Hope you stick around and share your thoughts on the show.
 
Oooh, another face from Germany. We're growing, haha. Hello, there 🙂 Looking forward to your posts.

And it's not too bad to like Charmed, I enjoyed the first four or five seasons, too. 😉
 
Hey and welcome to the boards!
Me likes Charmed too <3 Although it will never compare to Buffy. Nevaa!
Aha, but i am grateful for Charmed, it has it's ups and its downs, mostly downs. 😛
I love it anyways. 😛 If i'd watched Charmed before i had watch Buffy/Angel i'd probably love it way more..
 
Hey there! Welcome to BB, it's great to have you.

If you haven't seen all of the seasons yet, keep your eyes peeled for spoilers! 🙂
 
Hi new friend! Welcome to BB!

Here I have posted a cross-over list for you to refer too as you watch the series:

*The Complete Buffyverse Canon in Chronological Order*

(Comic) Tales of the Slayers
TotS "The First Slayer"
TotS "Righteous"

(Comic) Tales of the Vampires
TotV “Taking Care of Business”

(Comic) Tales of the Slayers
TotS "The Innocent"

(Comic) Tales of the Vampires
TotV “Some Like it Hot”

(Comic) Tales of the Slayers
TotS "Presumption"

(Comic) Tales of the Vampires
TotV “Jack”

(Comic) Tales of the Slayers
TotS "The Glittering World"

(Comic) Tales of the Vampires
TotV “Tales of the Vampires”
TotV “Father”
TotV “Dames”
TotV “Dust Bowl”

(Comic) Tales of the Slayers
TotS "Broken Bottle of Djinn" (1937 part)

(Comic) Tales of the Slayers
TotS "Sonnenblume"
TotS "Nikki Goes Down!"

(Comic) Buffy: The Origin

BtVS Season 1
BtVS 1.01 - 1.02 "Welcome to the Hellmouth" =====>> "The Harvest"
(Comic) Tales of the Slayers "Broken Bottle of Djinn" (1997 part - Anytime between "The Harvest" and "Prophecy Girl")
BtVS 1.03 - 1.12 "The Witch" =====>> "Prophecy Girl"

Buffy Season 2
BtVS 2.01 - 2.02 "When She Was Bad" =====>> "Some Assembly Required"
(Comic) Tales of the Vampires "The Problem With Vampires"
BtVS 2.03 - 2.22 "School Hard" =====>> "Becoming: Part Two"

Buffy Season 3
BtVS 3.01 - 3.10 "Anne" =====>> "Amends"
(Comic) Tales of the Vampires "Numb"
BtVS 3.11 - 3.22 "Gingerbread" =====>> "Graduation Day: Part Two"

Buffy Season 4 / Angel Season 1
BtVS 4.01 "The Freshman" =====>> AtS 1.01 "City of"
BtVS 4.02 "Living Conditions" =====>> AtS 1.02 "Lonely Hearts"
BtVS 4.03 "The Harsh Light of Day" =====>> AtS 1.03 "In the Dark"
BtVS 4.04 "Fear, Itself" =====>> AtS 1.04 "I Fall to Pieces"
BtVS 4.05 "Beer Bad" =====>> AtS 1.05 "Rm w/a Vu"
BtVS 4.06 "Wild at Heart" =====>> AtS 1.06 "Sense and Sensitivity"
BtVS 4.07 "The Initiative" =====>> AtS 1.07 "The Bachelor Party"
BtVS 4.08 "Pangs" =====>> AtS 1.08 "I Will Remember You"
BtVS 4.09 "Something Blue" =====>> AtS 1.09 "Hero"
BtVS 4.10 "Hush" =====>> AtS 1.10 "Parting Gifts"
BtVS 4.11 "Doomed" =====>> AtS 1.11 "The Somnambulist"
BtVS 4.12 "A New Man" =====>> AtS 1.12 "Expecting"
BtVS 4.13 "The I in Team" =====>> AtS 1.13 "She"
BtVS 4.14 "Goodbye Iowa" =====>> AtS 1.14 "I've Got You Under My Skin"
BtVS 4.15 "This Year's Girl" =====>> AtS 1.15 "The Prodigal"
BtVS 4.16 "Who Are You?" =====>> AtS 1.16 "The Ring"
BtVS 4.17 "Superstar" =====>> AtS 1.17 "Eternity"
BtVS 4.18 "Where the Wild Things Are" =====>> AtS 1.18 "Five by Five"
BtVS 4.19 "New Moon Rising" =====>> AtS 1.19 "Sanctuary"
BtVS 4.20 "The Yoko Factor" =====>> AtS 1.20 "War Zone"
BtVS 4.21 "Primeval" =====>> AtS 1.21 "Blind Date"
BtVS 4.22 "Restless" =====>> AtS 1.22 "To Shanshu in LA"

Buffy Season 5 / Angel Season 2
BtVS 5.01 "Buffy Vs. Dracula" =====>> AtS 2.01 "Judgment"
(Comic) Angel: Long Night's Journey (Anytime before "Reunion")
BtVS 5.02 "Real Me" =====>> AtS 2.02 "Are You Now or Have You Ever Been?"
BtVS 5.03 "The Replacement" =====>> AtS 2.03 "First Impressions"
BtVS 5.04 "Out of My Mind" =====>> AtS 2.04 "Untouched"
BtVS 5.05 "No Place Like Home" =====>> AtS 2.05 "Dear Boy"
BtVS 5.06 "Family" =====>> AtS 2.06 "Guise Will Be Guise"
BtVS 5.07 "Fool for Love" =====>> AtS 2.07 "Darla"
BtVS 5.08 "Shadow" =====>> AtS 2.08 "The Shroud of Rahmon"
BtVS 5.09 "Listening to Fear" =====>> AtS 2.09 "The Trial"
BtVS 5.10 "Into the Woods" =====>> AtS 2.10 "Reunion"
(Comic) Tales of the Vampires "Stacy" (Anytime after "Into the Woods" and before Season 8)
BtVS 5.11 "Triangle" =====>> AtS 2.11 "Redefinition"
BtVS 5.12 "Checkpoint" =====>> AtS 2.12 "Blood Money"
BtVS 5.13 "Blood Ties" =====>> AtS 2.13 "Happy Anniversary"
BtVS 5.14 "Crush" =====>> AtS 2.14 "The Thin Dead Line"
BtVS 5.15 "I Was Made to Love You" =====>> AtS 2.15 "Reprise"
BtVS 5.16 "The Body" =====>> AtS 2.16 "Epiphany"
BtVS 5.17 "Forever" =====>> AtS 2.17 "Disharmony"
BtVS 5.18 "Intervention" =====>> AtS 2.18 "Dead End"
BtVS 5.19 "Tough Love" =====>> AtS 2.19 "Belonging"
BtVS 5.20 "Spiral" =====>> AtS 2.20 "Over the Rainbow"
BtVS 5.21 "The Weight of the World" =====>> AtS 2.21 "Through the Looking Glass"
BtVS 5.22 "The Gift" =====>> AtS 2.22 "There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb"

Buffy Season 6 / Angel Season 3
BtVS 6.01 "Bargaining, Pt. 1"
BtVS 6.02 "Bargaining, Pt. 2" =====>> AtS 3.01 "Hearthrob"
AtS 3.02 "That Vision Thing"
BtVS 6.03 "After Life" =====>> AtS 3.03 "That Old Gang of Mine"
AtS 3.04 "Carpe Noctem"
BtVS 6.04 "Flooded"
BtVS 6.05 "Life Serial" =====>> AtS 3.05 "Fredless"
BtVS 6.06 "All the Way" =====>> AtS 3.06 "Billy"
BtVS 6.07 "Once More, with Feeling" =====>> AtS 3.07 "Offspring"
BtVS 6.08 "Tabula Rasa" =====>> AtS 3.08 "Quickening"
BtVS 6.09 "Smashed" =====>> AtS 3.09 "Lullaby"
BtVS 6.10 "Wrecked" =====>> AtS 3.10 "Dad"
BtVS 6.11 "Gone" =====>> AtS 3.11 "Birthday"
BtVS 6.12 "Doublemeat Palace" =====>> AtS 3.12 "Provider"
BtVS 6.13 "Dead Things" =====>> AtS 3.13 "Waiting in the Wings"
BtVS 6.14 "Older and Far Away" =====>> AtS 3.14 "Couplet"
BtVS 6.15 "As You Were" =====>> AtS 3.15 "Loyalty"
BtVS 6.16 "Hell's Bells" =====>> AtS 3.16 "Sleep Tight"
BtVS 6.17 "Normal Again" =====>> AtS 3.17 "Forgiving"
BtVS 6.18 "Entropy" =====>> AtS 3.18 "Double or Nothing"
BtVS 6.19 "Seeing Red" =====>> AtS 3.19 "The Price"
BtVS 6.20 "Villains" =====>> AtS 3.20 "A New World"
BtVS 6.21 "Two to Go" =====>> AtS 3.21 "Benediction"
BtVS 6.22 "Grave" =====>> AtS 3.22 "Tomorrow"

Buffy Season 7 / Angel Season 4
BtVS 7.01 "Lessons" =====>> AtS 4.01 "Deep Down"
BtVS 7.02 "Beneath You" =====>> AtS 4.02 "Ground State"
BtVS 7.03 "Same Time, Same Place" =====>> AtS 4.03 "The House Always Wins"
BtVS 7.04 "Help" =====>> AtS 4.04 "Slouching Toward Bethlehem"
BtVS 7.05 "Selfless" =====>> AtS 4.05 "Supersymmetry"
BtVS 7.06 "Him" =====>> AtS 4.06 "Spin the Bottle"
BtVS 7.07 "Conversations with Dead People" =====>> AtS 4.07 "Apocalypse, Nowish"
BtVS 7.08 "Sleeper" =====>> AtS 4.08 "Habeas Corpses"
BtVS 7.09 "Never Leave Me" =====>> AtS 4.09 "Long Day's Journey"
BtVS 7.10 "Bring on the Night" =====>> AtS 4.10 "Awakening"
BtVS 7.11 "Showtime" =====>> AtS 4.11 "Soulless"
BtVS 7.12 "Potential" =====>> AtS 4.12 "Calvary"
BtVS 7.13 "The Killer in Me" =====>> AtS 4.13 "Salvage"
BtVS 7.14 "First Date" =====>> AtS 4.14 "Release"
BtVS 7.15 "Get It Done"
BtVS 7.16 "Storyteller"
BtVS 7.17 "Lies My Parents Told Me" =====>> AtS 4.15 "Orpheus"
AtS 4.16 "Players"
BtVS 7.18 "Dirty Girls" =====>> AtS 4.17 "Inside Out"
AtS 4.18 Shiny Happy People
BtVS 7.19 "Empty Places" =====>> AtS 4.19 "The Magic Bullet"
AtS 4.20 "Sacrifice"
AtS 4.21 "Peace Out"
BtVS 7.20 "Touched" =====>> AtS 4.22 "Home"
BtVS 7.21 "End of Days"
BtVS 7.22 "Chosen"

(Comic) Tales of the Vampires "Antique" (Anytime after Season 7 and before Season 8)

Angel Season 5
AtS 5.1 – 5.14 "Conviction" =====>> "Smile Time"
(Comic) "Spike: Asylum" (Anytime between "Smile Time" and "Spike: Shadow Puppets")
AtS 5.15 – 5.16 "A Hole in the World" =====>> "Shells"
(Comic) "Spike: Shadow Puppets" (Anytime before "Not Fade Away")
AtS 5.17 – 5.20 "Underneath" =====>> "The Girl in Question"
(Comic) Angel: On-Going series (Drusilla #24)
AtS 5.21 – 5.22 "Power Play" =====>> "Not Fade Away"

(Comic) Angel: After the Fall
AtF #6-8 First Night (excluding Betta George bookend segments)

(Comic) Spike: After the Fall

(Comic) Angel: After the Fall
AtF #1-5
AtF #6-8 Betta George bookend segments (excluding character stories)
AtF #9-17

(Comic) Angel: On-Going series
AtF Epilogue "Become What You Are" #23

(Comic) Angel: Aftermath (#18-22) / (Comic) Angel: Only Human

(Comic) Angel: On-Going series
Angel #26-27
Angel: Last Angel in Hell Annual
Angel: The Crown Prince Syndrome #28

(Comic) Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 8
S8 Willow one-shot
S8 #1-15
S8 #16-19 New York scenes (excluding scenes in the future)
S8 #20
S8 My Space Dark Horse Presents "Harmony Bites"
S8 #21
S8 My Space Dark Horse Presents "Vampy Cat Play Friend"
S8 #22-25
S8 Tales of the Vampires
S8 My Space Dark Horse Presents "Always Darkest"
S8 #26-27
S8 My Space Dark Horse Presents "Harmony Comes to the Nation"
S8#28-40

(Comic) Fray

(Comic) Tales of the Slayers
TotS "Tales"

(Comic) Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 8
S8 #16-19 Future scenes (excluding New York scenes)

Quick Reference: Confirmed Canon List

Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 1-7
(Comic) Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 8
Angel: Season 1-5
(Comic) Angel: After the Fall (#1-17)
(Comic) Tales of the Slayers
(Comic) Tales of the Vampires
(Comic) Fray

As you can see, it's pretty easy to follow. Angel Season 1 starts up parallel to Buffy Season 4. This list also includes the canonical comics.

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The Kinslayer agrees: Did you see the link posted in post 2? 😉 But better one time too many...
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Well, I think this list is better 😉
 
Washburne
Washburne
Did you see the link posted in post 2? ;) But better one time too many...
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TheGrandmaster
Damn this list is better than the one in my link.
BuffyElevated
BuffyElevated
HOLY CRAP, Becky!!! LOL You go girl!
Thanks for the warm welcome.

I'm from Bavaria, the southern, best part of Germany.

Joan, the list is cool, but I don't get all the abbreviations. Sorry.
 
Joan the Vampire Slayer
Joan the Vampire Slayer
Basically, all you need to do is follow the part with the episodes :)
Well, BtVS is Buffy the Vampire Slayer, AtS is Angel the Series, AtF is Angel: After The Fall, TotS is Tales of the Slayers, ToTV is Tales of the Vampires and S8 is Buffy Season 8.

And Southern Germany is so not the best part of Germany 😛
 
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ubi4soft
i've never been to Germany, but I'd like to visit the Beck's part
Kristine said:
Sorry to burst you bubble, but Northrhine-Westfalia is way cooler...mainly because I spent sodme years there 😛
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...and because I lived there my entire life there and still do. 😀

Anyway, welcome to the boards, Fireflower! I hope you're able to watch the shows in the undubbed original, as the German dub is notoriously sucky, lol.
 
Hey FireFlower, welcome to the boards! 😀

Don't worry, I'm a Charmed fan, too. Or rather I used to be. Now I think it has a bit too much romance in it... 😀 But anyway, a lot of here are Charmed Fans. 🙂

I have two black cats and I'm running a Forum too, the rest of the time I like to ride horses and go snowboarding in winter and, oh yeah, I'm a kickboxer since over one year now. I train regularly go on tournaments (fights) too.
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Well, that sounds cool! Although I'm not so into horse riding or snowboarding. It's always kinda scared me. 🙂 Like, if you've ever tried horse back riding on a mountain where the path is only two feet wide, and if you horse moves 3 inches to the left they'll, and you'll, fall straight down the mountain, dropping thousands of feet and landing in a forest, then you'll see what I mean. 😀

Looking forward to have a few nice chats here.:grouphug:
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Same here, I can't wait to hear your input! By the way, we can sometimes sound a bit rough, but don't worry. We're all just highly passionate and opinionated. 😀

So FireFlower, do you prefer Bangel or Spuffy? 😀
 
Welcome! I visited Germany in high school, though I can't remember the name of the town I stayed in. It was semi-close to Dachau, I know. I'm jealous that you're in the middle of your first viewing of Buffy and Angel. There's nothing quite like the first time through.

Have fun posting and discussing!
 
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