I get it now

There was a time when I absolutely hated Spuffy and everything it stood for.

It was "The sun is blue, the sky is yellow and cats chase dogs" day and I'm glad it's over.

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kittenpoker said:
yes, I can see that... I think the lowest point for me is when buffy is hitting spike over and over in the face and telling him that he's nothing... can't remember the exact words but it's right after warren makes her think she killed his ex girlfriend and spike wanted her to try and cover it up. I really hate that part.
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Yeah, that scene is still difficult for me to watch, even though Dead Things is in my top 3 favorite episodes.

I believe the quote you are referring to is this;

Spike: You are not throwing your life away over this.
Buffy: It's not your choice.
Spike: Why are you doing this to yourself?
Buffy: A girl is dead because of me.
Spike: And how many people are alive because of you? How many have you saved? One dead girl doesn't tip the scale.
Buffy: That's all it is to you, isn't it? Just another body!
Spike: Buffy-
Buffy: You can't understand why this is killing me, can you?
Spike: Why don't you explain it? Come on, that's it, put it on me. Put it all on me. That's my girl.
Buffy: I am not your girl! You don't... have a soul! There is nothing good or clean in you. You are dead inside! You can't feel anything real! I could never... be your girl!
Spike: You always hurt... the one you love, pet.

This is absolutely the most hurtful thing Buffy has ever said to Spike, and these scene in a sense, is them hitting rock-bottom. But, good news is, they emerge from his dark place stronger and more connected.

So much can be read into this interaction; Spike, not having a conscience, is confused as to why Buffy would turn herself into the police, considering Katrina's 'death' was a mistake. Buffy doesn't understand why Spike doesn't understand that's not the point. It's that she killed someone - regardless of if it was a mistake or not. Spike sees things differently than her, and for that she punishes him. All he's trying to do is protect her from ruining her life (and protect Dawn). When Spike asks her to explain it, he's honestly seeking answer. He truly doesn't understand why this is "killing her." To understand, he needs a soul. So he gets one. So he can understand her and be worthy of her.

This scene is tough, but's it is SO important to understanding their conflict.
 
Joan the Vampire Slayer said:
So much can be read into this interaction; Spike, not having a conscience, is confused as to why Buffy would turn herself into the police, considering Katrina's 'death' was a mistake. Buffy doesn't understand why Spike doesn't understand that's not the point. It's that she killed someone - regardless of if it was a mistake or not. Spike sees things differently than her, and for that she punishes him. All he's trying to do is protect her from ruining her life (and protect Dawn). When Spike asks her to explain it, he's honestly seeking answer. He truly doesn't understand why this is "killing her." To understand, he needs a soul. So he gets one. So he can understand her and be worthy of her.

This scene is tough, but's it is SO important to understanding their conflict.
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Thank you for that. It does help me understand it better.
 
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