I just now realized the metaphor behind Joyce in Restless

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After watching "Restless" yesterday I finally understood the metaphor behind Joyce in Restless in the dreams.

It was explaining how Joyce is always sort of in the background and never really being close with Buffy after she went to college.

Did I explain it right?
 
After watching "Restless" yesterday I finally understood the metaphor behind Joyce in Restless in the dreams.

It was explaining how Joyce is always sort of in the background and never really being close with Buffy after she went to college.

Did I explain it right?

You mean only in Buffy's dream, though, right?

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Yeah. I should have said "In Buffy's dreams" sorry I worded it wrong lol
Pretty much... Joyce was always kinda on the back burner for Buffy. I think Buffy always kinda took her for granted on the show, up until she got sick in Season 5. Her dream in "Restless" is a good symbol for how Joyce felt Buffy saw her.
 
Also that scene was hard and the reason she had a special CAT scan machine is due to the fact Ms Southernland is clostrophobic
 
Not just Joyce being trapped behind the wall, but moreso, Buffy walking away to do something else instead of helping (when Joyce says that Buffy could probably break down the wall if she wanted to).
 
The Dark Avenger agrees: Yeah. I should have said "In Buffy's dreams" sorry I worded it wrong lol

That's okay - I just couldn't remember Joyce being used in that fashion in the other characters' dreams, so I was confused. 🙂

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I always saw it as Joyce being just as much a part of Buffy's foundations (get it?) as her Slayer lineage. Her maternal human line is as important as that of the mystickal.

Dreaming of a dirty wall (Buffy, "It looks dirty.") usually means that your body needs cleansing because there is a toxin. Since it is Joyce surrounded in the dirty wall "body" it can mean that it was a foreshadowing of her illness.

Joyce told her to leave her and find her friends because in the end she will not like that she is the Slayer but she will accept it. When she gets sick she is concerned that Buffy is putting her life (friends, school, boyfriend) on hold to take care of her. In Restless, Buffy was not choosing hanging out over helping her mother. She had to find her friends who were in trouble and needed her. She was choosing the perils of the paranormal over the hardships of everyday humanity.

A wall does represent a seperation. Buffy has always felt that she was letting her mother down and had to shut her out of so much of her life because she knew she couldn't handle it and didn't condone it. I think it says something that Joyce is trapped in the walls of the university. Buffy will have to give up college and all of the dreams her mother had for her. She moves past the belief that if she tries hard enough she can have that life while being the Slayer.

Some say that dreaming of a mouse symbolizes a serious health threat, such as cancer. So once again we come back to Buffy being warned of her mother's impending illness and death. Joyce said that the mouse "cancer" was tickling her foot. In Bargaining #1 the Buffybot gets injured in the head and says "I think my foot is broken."

I don't think Buffy took her mother for granted. She tried very hard to live up to the "normal girl" expectations of her mother. She had to hear that she was disappointed in her, that she made bad choices and showed poor judgement, that she was sick in the head and probably capable of murder. Joyce held a lot of resentment towards Buffy for being the Slayer and not following the path she dreamed for her (marriage, kids, a place in normal society).

She didn't see her that much in S4 but let's not forget that she wrote her every week, came home her first week of college to find her bedroom filled with shipping crates, came over and had a good talk during Halloween, would've celebrated Thanksgiving with her had Joyce not decided to visit her sister out of state, etc. They were often two stressed out busy ships in the night when they lived together so living apart, of course they won't see as much of each other. I didn't exactly see Joyce coming down to the university to spend time with Buffy, it goes both ways.
 
I didn't exactly see Joyce coming down to the university to spend time with Buffy, it goes both ways.

It's entirely possible that Joyce wouldn't want to just turn up (embarrassing mom turning up at the wrong moment), and was waiting, sadly in vain, for Buffy to invite her.

Furthermore, Joyce says in the dream that a mouse is playing with her knees, not her foot 🙂

I really like your analysis of the Joyce/Buffy wall scene but I think maybe you are reading too much into it. There is a wall between Buffy and her mom, which Buffy is mildly concerned about and could easily break down (Joyce eventually asks her to do so after much insisting that she's fine), but she walks away instead. It's a pretty clean-cut straight forward metaphor. But I did find your thoughts very interesting. 😀
 
In S1-3, Joyce did not seem at all concerned about embarassing Buffy or interfering in her life.

I forgot that it was the knees and not the foot. Hmm. Okay. How about taking that "weak in the knees" expression and applying it. It usually means you'll fall or crumble (like a dirty hollowed out wall) to the floor and since the mouse represents illness it is her illness that will make her fall. Fall being another way of saying die.

I have no idea what the game of Majong is about.

Buffy was the one showing a lot of concern about the wall between them. Joyce only showed feigned interest in it breaking down. And like their relationship, it had somehow become Buffy's responsibility to do so instead of the other way around or it being up to both of them.

Faith put all the blame for Joyce & Buffy's sometimes distant or strained relationship on Buffy. But that is because Faith still mouths off about things she doesn't understand. She did not have an accurate idea of what either of them was really like or what kind of mother/daughter relationship they had.

I don't think there is such a thing as reading too much into Restless. It's one of my top 3 favorite episodes of BtVS.
 
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