Inconvenient Questions

vellavu · May 10, 2016

Did Faith ask/rob money from guys she dates in order to pay for her living?

Did Harmony go back home eating her parents after she's turned?

Had Cordy visited her parents in jail, at all?

Did Buffy really feed dying bystanders to Spike as Spike said?

Giles used the Willow/Buffy/Xander as free labor in the Magic Box without paying them or even gratitude. What does it tell us about Giles?

Spike basically watched happily as Warren was destroying Buffy's life in S6. What does it tell us about Spike?

What did Kendra wear whenever her only shirt was under laundry?

Skanky Vamp · May 10, 2016

vellavu said:
Giles used the Willow/Buffy/Xander as free labor in the Magic Box without paying them or even gratitude.

Of course.

vellavu said:
What does it tell us about Giles?

He was smarter than they were.

Athena · May 10, 2016

If I was a watcher, I'd totally get my slayer and her teenage friends to work in my shop, just for all the lip they give me and the terrible music they insist on listening to full blast....

white avenger · May 10, 2016

vellavu said:
Did Faith ask/rob money from guys she dates in order to pay for her living?

I always figured that she scavenged jewelry and weapons from the various demons she put down on patrol, then sold them to someone like Willie. Then he would sell them to some of his demon clientele, who would later be taken down by Faith on patrol, then she would scavenge them again and resell them to Willie. You know, recycling in its purest form.

vellavu said:
Did Harmony go back home eating her parents after she's turned?

No, but she did sneak in and steal all their credit cards.

vellavu said:
Had Cordy visited her parents in jail, at all?

She probably went with Angel, and visited her mother while he was seeing Faith.

vellavu said:
Spike basically watched happily as Warren was destroying Buffy's life in S6. What does it tell us about Spike?

It tells us that Spike was a soulless vampire at the time, with an electronic chip in his head that prevented him from hurting humans . He couldn't have stopped them, and he couldn't bring himself to ask one of the Scoobies to do it for him.

vellavu said:
What did Kendra wear whenever her only shirt was under laundry?

The same thing that she wore when it got torn up. One of Buffy's shirts.

I think when she said that that was her only shirt, she just meant that she hadn't brought any extra clothes with her to Sunnydale. She stowed away on a plane to get there, and stowaways can't have carry ons.

thetopher · May 10, 2016

vellavu said:
Did Faith ask/rob money from guys she dates in order to pay for her living?

I don't think Faith would be up for a bit of pickpocketing if the guy she was with was drunk, well-off and being a douche (kinda like those frat-boys that Cordelia dated).
Other than that she must've got by petty theft to pay for little things like food, shelter and laundering her clothes.

vellavu said:
Did Harmony go back home eating her parents after she's turned?

Nah, she's too fluffy at that point- post-S3. She didn't really have a clue of how to be evil

She could've done it at the beginning of S5- maybe as a way to impress her new gang of 'minions'.

vellavu said:
Had Cordy visited her parents in jail, at all?

I think maybe she phoned them but no, her new-found self-reliance (and pride in that self-reliance) probably meant that she mostly cut off contact.

vellavu said:
Did Buffy really feed dying bystanders to Spike as Spike said?

I can't see morally upright S5 Buffy doing that, so Spike was lying- as per.

vellavu said:
Giles used the Willow/Buffy/Xander as free labor in the Magic Box without paying them or even gratitude. What does it tell us about Giles?

Hey, they got to hang out there all the time and access the books/atrifacts/magic ingredients (Willow/Tara) and the private back room for occasional sexcapades (Xander/Anya...and possibly Willow/Tara) so they did get something out of the deal.

vellavu said:
Spike basically watched happily as Warren was destroying Buffy's life in S6. What does it tell us about Spike?

That he's a demon that will take advantage of another person's misery for their own benefit. Demon-love is ultimately always selfish.

vellavu said:
What did Kendra wear whenever her only shirt was under laundry?

I imagine she had lots of non-fighting shirts. Her 'fighting shirt' was like a uniform, as the Watcher's Council no doubt dictates.

Taake · May 10, 2016

vellavu said:
Did Harmony go back home eating her parents after she's turned?

Probably.

Had Cordy visited her parents in jail, at all?

Probably not, did both parents go to jail? And if they didn't, why did she cut them both off? Sure her parents made mistakes, clearly, but who is she to turn her back on them like that? (she's a character in a show where parents are inconvenient, that's who she is, but y'know... really, what kind of person does that make her.) We're never really lead to believe that they mistreat her...

Spike basically watched happily as Warren was destroying Buffy's life in S6. What does it tell us about Spike?

Did he? Huh, I can't remember that.

What did Kendra wear whenever her only shirt was under laundry?

I think the first Slayer can answer this question.

bespangeled · May 11, 2016

vellavu said:
Spike basically watched happily as Warren was destroying Buffy's life in S6. What does it tell us about Spike?

I'm with Taake - in fact, early on Spike is with Buffy when she spots the van, and they both go after it. So when did he watch happily?

vellavu · May 11, 2016

bespangeled said:
I'm with Taake - in fact, early on Spike is with Buffy when she spots the van, and they both go after it. So when did he watch happily?

"Smashed", "Dead Things" and the starting of "Entropy". He either had leads or was witnessing them messing with Buffy. But he did nothing and just felt satisfied about it.

bespangeled · May 11, 2016

vellavu said:
"Smashed", "Dead Things" and the starting of "Entropy". He either had leads or was witnessing them messing with Buffy. But he did nothing and just felt satisfied about it.

Going by that standard - everyone in her life knew and didn't act.

vellavu · May 11, 2016

bespangeled said:
Going by that standard - everyone in her life knew and didn't act.

Everyone else knew little about the Trio, let alone what they were capable of.

Of course, Giles is more guilty than Spike in S6 to make Buffy miserable, but that's not exactly on the same issue.

bespangeled · May 11, 2016

vellavu said:
Everyone else knew little about the Trio, let alone what they were capable of.

Of course, Giles is more guilty than Spike in S6 to make Buffy miserable, but that's not exactly on the same issue.

Spike didn't know about the trio - no more than any other characters. In fact, he probably knew less since he never met Jonathan or Tucker, and only knew Warren enough to do business with him once. Exactly what does Spike do or say that shows he does know more about the Trio and what they were doing, or what they were capable of?

Ethan Reigns · May 11, 2016

bespangeled said:
Spike didn't know about the trio - no more than any other characters. In fact, he probably knew less since he never met Jonathan or Tucker, and only knew Warren enough to do business with him once. Exactly what does Spike do or say that shows he does know more about the Trio and what they were doing, or what they were capable of?

He dealt with the Trio once but he knew about the invisibility ray (and benefitted from it) when Buffy came over and he couldn't see her in "Gone". No doubt she told him how this happened. He was informed about what happened in "Dead Things" when the Trio made Buffy believe she had killed Katrina. He commissioned the Trio to build the Buffybot after April threw him through a window at the Bronze.

bespangeled · May 11, 2016

How could he know about the invisibility ray? Buffy didn't even know what was happening until after her visit to Spike. He didn't know anything about the trio in Dead Things until well after Buffy pounded him into the concrete, if at all. Warren was on his own when he built the Bot - back in season 5 - there was no Trio. In fact, Warren was leaving town. So he didn't know anything until after the other characters did. Also, scenes off screen are fanon - so saying Buffy must have told him really isn't a persuasive argument.

Saying Spike should have known before anyone is like saying Giles should have killed Ben when he came into town, or killed Dawn when she arrived, and there would have been no Glorificus issue.

Snyder · May 11, 2016

Did Faith ask/rob money from guys she dates in order to pay for her living?
Probably

Did Harmony go back home eating her parents after she's turned?
I don't think so. Not all vampires kill their parents, only those who hate them

Had Cordy visited her parents in jail, at all?
Her mom went in jail too?

Did Buffy really feed dying bystanders to Spike as Spike said?
When did he say that? I can't remember

Giles used the Willow/Buffy/Xander as free labor in the Magic Box without paying them or even gratitude. What does it tell us about Giles?
Nothing, because it never happened. Yeah they helped Giles occasionally and voluntarily like sometimes friends do but this doesn't mean he used them

Spike basically watched happily as Warren was destroying Buffy's life in S6. What does it tell us about Spike?
Nothing, because it never happened. Spike had no idea of what Warren was doing to Buffy and he definitely didn't watch, happily or not. If he had known something he would have said so when he was accused of spying on Buffy or when Buffy believed she had killed Katrina. Instead he took her brutal beating trying to prevent her from going to the police

What did Kendra wear whenever her only shirt was under laundry?
something else we didn't have the time to see because she was killed too fast 😀

thrasherpix · May 11, 2016

Vampires don't have a conscience and technically aren't the same people, and they come to VERY hungry. It seems going to parents (especially if they didn't know you were dead) is just way too convenient, so I think Harmony ate her living relatives in town, and probably some friends as well (as she tried to do to Willow). I might think she left Sunnydale out of fear of Buffy, but she doesn't seem scared of her later on...but maybe having Spike with her or her own minions make her braver.

Though that said...it seems odd to me that Harmony resisted the temptation to eat Cordy (or even turn her).

sosa lola · May 11, 2016

Was it mentioned that Cordelia's parents were in jail?

Cordelia: I have nothing, okay? No dresses. No cell phone. No car. Everything's been taken away because Daddy made a little mistake on his taxes. For the last twelve years. Satisfied? Are you a happy Xander now? I'm broke. I can't go to any of the colleges that accepted me. And I can't stay home because we no longer have one.

She mentions that everything they owned was taken away, but nothing about her parents being in jail.

vellavu · May 11, 2016

sosa lola said:
She mentions that everything they owned was taken away, but nothing about her parents being in jail.

Thanks. I don't know where my impression of her parent being in jail came from.😳

bespangeled · May 11, 2016

sosa lola said:
Was it mentioned that Cordelia's parents were in jail?

Cordelia: I have nothing, okay? No dresses. No cell phone. No car. Everything's been taken away because Daddy made a little mistake on his taxes. For the last twelve years. Satisfied? Are you a happy Xander now? I'm broke. I can't go to any of the colleges that accepted me. And I can't stay home because we no longer have one.

She mentions that everything they owned was taken away, but nothing about her parents being in jail.

She talks about it in Angel

RomanticSoul · May 11, 2016

Taake said:
Did he? Huh, I can't remember that.

Spike knew where Warren lived if I remember correctly. All he had to do was tell someone.

Snyder · May 11, 2016

bespangeled said:
She talks about it in Angel

does she mention her mother being in jail as well?

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