Instead of Satsu...

charmingslayer

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Do you think in any way it would of been Faith
Instead?

IMO i don't really know but i think theres a chance.

What do you think?
 
I dont think Faith is the bicurious type

she sticks to the use men for sex and leave them behind thing
 
Well, I could've seen them together in s3, when there was this kind of love/hate between them and Buffy was a lot less experienced.
Now in s8? I don't know to be honest. Maybe after a really intense fight (against each other) but otherwise, although I don't like it, I don't think it's gonna happen.
 
Faith herself seemed pretty clear about her sexual preferences in No Future For You, so I think that even if Buffy was up for it, it still wouldn't happen.
 
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CharmedSlayer85
Yeah Faith said herself that she didn't swing that way in her story arc
white avenger
white avenger
Buffy would probably have said the same thing before "Wolves At The Gate."
I would be happier if the Chosen Two simply buried the hatchet, settled their past differences, and became real friends. I would love to see Buffy and Faith put in a situation where they had to depend on each other to survive, something along the Buffyverse equivalent of being stranded together on a desert island inhabited by a tribe of very hungry cannibals.
 
I'm sure this'll turn out to be a long post, but then again, Buffy's relationships are never as easy as a sentence or two for me. 😉

There is a lot of tension between Faith and Buffy that's very complex. But then, I can't recall any relationship that Buffy's had that's not been hopelessly tangled and confused at more than one point where love (whether of a friend or a lover) was involved.

Faith does want Buffy to love her, has always wanted that - which the Mayor painfully pointed out in Season 7 - but she's completely the opposite of Buffy. Where Buffy thinks, Faith acts. Faith's much more about anger and action, and Buffy is someone who wants to understand and communicate. So instantly, they click on some levels, and repel each other, on more fundamental levels. Faith is Buffy's opposite, but Faith is attracted to the light and warmth that Buffy and her friends and family have together. In many ways, she does want to be let in and she does want to be loved and accepted and to be close to Buffy, and leave behind the old, damaged Faith. When Buffy rejects her, and Faith starts to feel like she's not doing anything that makes her happy, she just continues to screw things up and that drives a wedge in between them that's still there today.

I've always thought that they were interested in each other. But being interested does not a relationship make. They were definitely feeling each other out, but I think a lot of that was because: here's this other Slayer, when I thought I was alone in the world. Being able to sense each other on some level, and experience the same feelings and dreams, must have been something they wanted to explore. Getting that close to someone, especially at a time when you might be working through some things or feeling alone, other feelings might pop in there completely unexpected.

The vibe I got from Faith is that she just didn't know how to express her feelings about anything, much less about wanting people to love her, especially of needing Buffy's approval and love (Faith is like a bull in a china shop about things sometimes). She saw that as a weak point in her armor, and so she rejected that need and overreacted to compensate and lost control, and just took Buffy to the edge as she was going over, herself.

I feel like Buffy picked up on that, all of it, because she's a smart girl. Her mama didn't raise no fool. She has a 6th sense about a lot of things, and she's extremely empathetic to people, even moreso to those who she's close to. She understands a lot about emotions, sacrifice, and love, even in Season 3. But obviously, at this point in time, there were more important things happening in her arc with Faith besides finding time to sit down and talk about feelings.

Season 7 and Season 8 would still see their relationship changing, but still bouncing back and forth between the old angst and anger. Almost the whole way they relate to each other now is colored by their history together. They go around and around on the same track. I'm not sure they're ever supposed to be able to get past that.

To sum up, I think there was a lot of attraction and curiosity there, and Eliza and Sarah played it like that on purpose. The subtext is there and it's intentional. The hint that there was something beneath the surface with them was not really going to go anywhere, though. Is it going anywhere now? No clue, whatsoever. All I do know for certain is that everybody important - Joss, Sarah, Eliza, & main Faith writers - knows that there's static and spark between Faith and Buffy, and I think they enjoy tinkering with that and giving it a little nudge now and then to see what happens.

Doug Petrie said in the commentary for Bad Girls:

"And here we’ve got the growing lesbian subtext between these two, which was always fun to play with. And Eliza was always kinda pushing the sexuality and no one remembered to stop her from doing that, which we’re all very happy about."​
 
I don't think Faith is in the other field at all... She is clearly straight.. Not even bi!

Faith is...well you could call her a man-eater 😀
 
If there ever were any sort of sexual relationship between Buffy and Faith, it would be sort of ironic that Buffy would be the experienced one instead of the other way around. The only way that I could see it happening, however, would be as a reaction to some outside catalyst, another "Something Blue" type spell gone awry, or the result of an evil plot to distract them while some sinister plot unfolded. Beyond that, ain't one chance in a million. Don't hold your breath. Find something else to look forward to. That ship will never sail. Just ain't gonna happen.

Faith and Spike, now...THAT has distinct possibilities.
 
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Perny
no no no... Can't change Faith! Shouldn't change Faith
Faith and Spike, now...THAT has distinct possibilities.


It was talked about... Although I don't really see them together... I mean, other than Spike's acting all bad all the time, they wouldn't fit.
Spike is the type of guy who expresses love, and wants a relationship.
Faith on the other hand is too much of a wild chick to commit like that. It would never work... (imo)
 
white avenger
white avenger
That's my point, though. Spike could be the one to introduce Faith to real romance instead of her, "Slam, bam, thank you ma'am" style of sex without emotion
haven't read the comics, but from what i've read around here, i sort of find it odd to write faith as so NON-bicurious especially when ED played that subtext up so much in s3. And as Unkle posted regarding Petrie's commentary... no one stopped her. i always thought it would've been very in character for her to apply her "use them and leave them approach" on both genders. idk, just seems to go against how they were playing the character in s3.
 
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UnKle
I agree. :)
I think Buffy had sex with Satsu because she was the one who kissed her to break Amy's spell. It could only have been Faith if Faith had broken the spell instead. That would have turned it from 'bicurious' to 'in love with', which isn't a place Faith's character seems ready to go (with either gender). So as much as I enjoy the B/F ship in fanfic, this one is going to remain subtext.
 
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Helga the Viking
good point!
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UnKle
Yeah, Faith's nowhere near ready to do that... I would be shocked if she did! Satsu was very much open to love. Buffy, also, seems like she's never going to settle down.
haven't read the comics, but from what i've read around here, i sort of find it odd to write faith as so NON-bicurious especially when ED played that subtext up so much in s3. And as Unkle posted regarding Petrie's commentary... no one stopped her. i always thought it would've been very in character for her to apply her "use them and leave them approach" on both genders. idk, just seems to go against how they were playing the character in s3.
True dat. Here's another Petrie quote, from This Year's Girl (about the famous window/heart scene):

"There was a girl in my high school who I remember, an actual bad girl, who I will protect by not naming her, but I remember her coming to the window of a class and breathing on the glass and drawing a little image on it and calling another girl out. So that's based on real life. [...] What's fun, too, about this is that Willow is being left out in the cold. Buffy is Willow's best friend - and here she [Faith] comes. I love this. And there's the heart, again lesbian subtext, but the heart with the stake through it: Let's go stake some vampires in the heart, but it's this kind of romantic image at the same time, because it's almost a seduction. Faith is very sexy and she's saying, "Come play with me," and she couldn't care less about Willow or school, and Willow is Buffy's best friend and Faith is testing that..."​
 
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