Is Everything Offensive Nowadays?

[Puffy]

random question: is Pulp Fiction still a cool movie? I am not longer sure 😉
What would Spike Lee say about it. 😛

 

[nightshade]

It's interesting, where I live it can be very racist, I've heard the N word often. It was very much a white town, it's slowly becoming more diverse, but a lot of people aren't particularly happy about it, especially older people. When I was in high school, throughout all the 5 years there I can only think of 3 non white students, and no teachers. I imagine that there are more students now, but still very much a minority.

 

[Mr Trick]

random question: is Pulp Fiction still a cool movie? I am not longer sure 😉
What would Spike Lee say about it. 😛

Among students it very much is still considered a cool movie yes. I think its a good film that still stands up well today, but its also overrated and is not the masterpiece many say it is.

I don't think Lee would be very impressed with it. I do think the racial stereotypes in QT's are problematic.

 

[November]

Not going to lie, I have a secret love for Twilight. I like the books but was always disappointed by the lack of the big bloody battle at the end of book four. It should of happened!
I love the parody movie of it too. It's usually Twilight or Vampires Suck as my go to pick me up if I'm feeling emo.


I lived in a small country town. When I moved to a regional city I told my friends at the gay support group what had happened and they were surprised (mainly with the voo doo doll and death threats stuff. Getting a bottle thrown at me was in Perth. I made the mistake of walking around with my missus after sunset before clubbing had started. Was a bad call)
But at one point in time there was a small group that knew when our meeting times where for our support group. They'd pick off a few of our members after group and beat the crap out of them. I started giving friends lifts home after the second week this happened (as did other members to people who didn't have licenses) Even my friend who was a black belt in karate was held down by some randoms and was beaten, she was sporting two black eyes for a while. Was horrid.

When I was at an inner city highschool in the 90's, bashings were frequent. I went to a multicultural school, huge number of ESL students, who were very against men wearing glitter. (Rock est was massive at our school, so glitter was usual dress). The whites at the school were mostly there on music scholarship, the immmigrants were there to gain enough english to go to a main stream suburbian school. I thought much of the begaviour was normal, but when I got to year 9, the gangs stuff started. Asian gangs would come to the school to bash the middle eastern gangs. The middle easterns would bash the gays, cos they didnt have a chance ahainst anyone else. Rape was threatened often by ESL (18 yr olds to 12 year old girls), we could never go to a toilet alone. Guess whos drunk today was a game we would play with the students. In one day, 3 people were taken to hosptial, one set on fire, the other had an artery sliced when thrown through a window, and the 3rd much less stressful, allergic reaction to a bee sting. Teenagers can be tough as nuts, its adulthood when it hits ya. Recently a friend from that school survived a suicide attempt. Affectionately known as "twinky". A great guy whos gay bahings really got him down 🙁

It's interesting, where I live it can be very racist, I've heard the N word often. It was very much a white town, it's slowly becoming more diverse, but a lot of people aren't particularly happy about it, especially older people. When I was in high school, throughout all the 5 years there I can only think of 3 non white students, and no teachers. I imagine that there are more students now, but still very much a minority.

When i moved cities, my new private school was completely white. There was one asian child. The whole town was white, with some abo's sprinkled through. Interesting in WA that even the aboriginals flee the city for peace and quiet. I have so many stories but have dribbled on enough. Its a white country here, with many stuck in 1950
 
I hope this double posts (sorry mods my spelling alone must give you a headache!)

This was a fun series aired in australia (available on ABC iview) called "You cant ask that" they got minority groups and asked them questions from the internet. The short stature one was hilarious.

 

[Guy]

The word "faggot" when used in the wrong context can be extremely hurtful
and lets be honest no one uses the word "faggot" to refer to a bundle of sticks
however at the end of the day its just another word that people used to insult each other
and even though it is sometimes used in a homophobic manner,most of the times its just another insult
when a word is used to specifically belittle a person for something like their sexual orientation its obviously highly offensive
but when a person just generally uses the word is it still offensive?
and if it is then isn't every other word that could also be used as an insult offensive?

Well, if a word is offensive, then why not try to avoid using it? Even if there are a lot of offensive words. There's a lot of non-offensive words you can use, too.

I mean, I'm all for freedom of speech, but once you HAVE freedom of speech, you should strive to use it in a positive way. Even if it's less convenient.

Any racial slur is offensive. Any word that was originally created to insult a specific race and/or nationality is verboten...I've always assumed that was common knowledge.

You say you're "puzzled" by this. Very well. I don't know what else to tell you. *shrugs*

I'm not puzzled by the fact that these words are offensive. I'm puzzled by the fact that you agree about these words being offensive, and yet disagree about OTHER words being offensive. I mean, what's the difference between not using the n word, and not using "he/she" incorrectly, which you criticized a few pages earlier as just being "a new trend"? In both cases, we're talking about something that offends people. Where do you draw the line between something truly offensive, and "a new trend"?

 

[Anyanka Bunny Slayer]

what's the difference between not using the n word, and not using "he/she" incorrectly, which you criticized a few pages earlier as just being "a new trend"? In both cases Where do you draw the line between something truly offensive, and "a new trend"?

Why are you still obsessing over the N word? I find this very odd, actually. But I'll answer your question;

The "N word" is off-limits in polite conversation. Why? Because it's been used for centuries to insult and degrade people of African ancestry. There's no drawing the line here. You just don't use it. Ever.

As for using "he/she" correctly; "he" refers to a male, while "she" refers to a female. I hope this clarifies matters for you. 🙂

You're welcome.

 

[Guy]

Why are you still obsessing over the N word? I find this very odd, actually.

I'm not. I asked what's the difference between the n-word, and every other PC issue - which you criticized.

The "N word" is off-limits in polite conversation. Why? Because it's been used for centuries to insult and degrade people of African ancestry. There's no drawing the line here. You just don't use it. Ever.

Absolutely. No disagreement here.

As for using "he/she" correctly; "he" refers to a male, while "she" refers to a female. I hope this clarifies matters for you. 🙂

You're welcome.

That's not what I meant, of course. I was talking about what you said earlier:

That's another thing that pisses me off...being told that I cannot use "he" "she" "her" or "him." I will NOT change how I speak because of some idiotic new trend.

 

[Puffy]

Well, just wondering, is the song "show me your genitals" offensive? 😉

 

[nightshade]

I remember a few years ago a lot of people got offended at the song Blurred lines. Calling it a rape promoting song.

 

[Xanderectomy]

I remember a few years ago a lot of people got offended at the song Blurred lines. Calling it a rape promoting song.

it really was a misogynistic song tho.

 

[DeadlyDuo]

it really was a misogynistic song tho.

Quite catchy though. I put it in the same category as the Divinyls song and "The bad touch" as in the tunes are good, but the actual subject matter of the songs is not suitable for children.

 

[nightshade]

I think a lot of pop songs aren't really suitable for children if you actually listen to the lyrics, however they have a catchy tune and kids love them.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

I think a lot of pop songs aren't really suitable for children if you actually listen to the lyrics, however they have a catchy tune and kids love them.

I'm not taking the piss or anything, but I never knew pop songs in general were suited for children. Even 'radio friendly' songs don't really mean they are 'kid friendly'. Do people generally think of pop songs as kids songs?

 

[nightshade]

I think the record companies do, they have catchy tunes and seem to be aimed more at children in image and promotion, or they were in the 90s when I was a kid.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

Maybe I just noticed it more in the 90s and notice it less now.

 

[GwenRaiden]

Katy Perry's videos always seem very much aimed at kids. It's weird.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

Katy Perry's videos always seem very much aimed at kids. It's weird.

Oh. I didn't realize we were talking videos. I thought we were just talking songs. In that case damn near ALL of them seemed geared towards kids. That being said, I cannot look at Katy Perry as she reminds me of Zooey Deschanel and I do not care for her at a to the double l.

 

[nightshade]

The videos are part of the promotion package, and yeah they are used to draw kids into songs.

 

[November]

The whip nae nae song was huge with toddlers, what does that represent? Gangham style? Whats this dab thing (serious question)

I watch rage most saturday mornings and have done for over 20 years. Even I am shocked at the porn shown, but kids seem desensitised nowdays.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

Whats this dab thing (serious question).

Wait... do you mean dab or dub? They are totally two different things.