Is life to short when you work?

True . You could be making a lot of money but you have no time to use it when . And when you do I found out you spend it all just because you can in most cases.
 
ChaseRules said:
True . You could be making a lot of money but you have no time to use it when . And when you do I found out you spend it all just because you can in most cases.
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It's different for every personal I suppose as everyone has different bills etc and different ways to spend money.

I mean for me so far this year I have a house deposit to save up for, a holiday next year, a wedding, the list is just endless, add that on top of my monthly bills that are fixed bills etc, there's often very little left at the end of the month that is "free" money to spend.
 
I have been reflecting on this question and have more to discuss, I hope someone can understand what I am trying to say 😛

How much does social pressure come into how much you work? When I was working in my previous job, I never felt like I was useless at it or a useless member of society while I was working it. But I did start to feel like that when I was surrounded by the 9-5 mentality. I often felt like what I did for work wasnt "good enough" and how much I made wasn't a respectable wage. I never felt that way when I was in the work and surrounded by other people who loved the work.

The other day, my co-worker in my current job said to me "we have the best job in the world! Is this not the dream?" and I agreed. My previous job was playing with children and ponies all day, hanging out with very elderly horses, to give them the best quality of life at the end and be there with them as they passed. It was absolutely what I wanted to be doing at that time. It was only the comments from others (and doctors) that made me feel badly about it, and start to regret not working for money. I was quite content with the wage - although not spending it wisely on healthy food, I was spending it on what I enjoyed most at the time - horses. I should not have worked that many hours though - that was far too much work for so little appreciation or pay off now that my body is done.

I just dont value the same things many of my age do. I still am made to feel like I haven't earned my place in this world, because I havent had a "real job" (by that they mean 9-5), that I got more help than I deserved from government "hand outs" when I was disabled by treatment. Being told that it could be worse and that its jealousy to observe the massive gap in standards of living, being called povo for not going the movies weekly or bothering with beauty products. These are all things people say to me casually to my face with no thought as to how it might make me feel.

I also notice this with discussion on Buffy s6. The idea that fast food is a demeaning and depressing job and a bad choice for those who are serious about success, is hurtful to those who enjoy that work. You should be thankful that some of us do.

PS as usual this is observation - not aimed at anyone personally but in general. I find BB is a good outlet with decent minds who are able to consume what I am trying to say without being personally offended by me saying it.
 
HoppyHippy said:
I have been reflecting on this question and have more to discuss, I hope someone can understand what I am trying to say 😛

How much does social pressure come into how much you work? When I was working in my previous job, I never felt like I was useless at it or a useless member of society while I was working it. But I did start to feel like that when I was surrounded by the 9-5 mentality. I often felt like what I did for work wasnt "good enough" and how much I made wasn't a respectable wage. I never felt that way when I was in the work and surrounded by other people who loved the work.

The other day, my co-worker in my current job said to me "we have the best job in the world! Is this not the dream?" and I agreed. My previous job was playing with children and ponies all day, hanging out with very elderly horses, to give them the best quality of life at the end and be there with them as they passed. It was absolutely what I wanted to be doing at that time. It was only the comments from others (and doctors) that made me feel badly about it, and start to regret not working for money. I was quite content with the wage - although not spending it wisely on healthy food, I was spending it on what I enjoyed most at the time - horses. I should not have worked that many hours though - that was far too much work for so little appreciation or pay off now that my body is done.

I just dont value the same things many of my age do. I still am made to feel like I haven't earned my place in this world, because I havent had a "real job" (by that they mean 9-5), that I got more help than I deserved from government "hand outs" when I was disabled by treatment. Being told that it could be worse and that its jealousy to observe the massive gap in standards of living, being called povo for not going the movies weekly or bothering with beauty products. These are all things people say to me casually to my face with no thought as to how it might make me feel.

I also notice this with discussion on Buffy s6. The idea that fast food is a demeaning and depressing job and a bad choice for those who are serious about success, is hurtful to those who enjoy that work. You should be thankful that some of us do.

PS as usual this is observation - not aimed at anyone personally but in general. I find BB is a good outlet with decent minds who are able to consume what I am trying to say without being personally offended by me saying it.
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I know what you mean. I think the social pressure put on us depends greatly on many things to be honest. I mean I go to jobs where the money is and I have no shame in saying that, I work over 60 hours a week most weeks in order to bring home a decent wage, and the money still isn't great for the work that I do, time away from home, and general hours worked, but it's better money and better prospects than my previous job. The social aspect of it today is that you HAVE to work, you feel you have to work in some capacity because of the stigma put on people who don't work. Sadly for most cases you often have to work more hours than the standard average in order to make money or because it comes with the job.

I would love to have a job working with animals etc, but it's a hard line of work to get into as far as opportunities go, and the money isn't great, I'm not currently in a situation where I could afford to drop down in money. I learned a long time ago though that the more you do the less you get, especially from the employer/company. As soon as you say yes once to working more hours etc, that's it, it becomes expected of you all the time, and you get no extra thanks for it.

As far as the fast food jobs go, I think that there is a lot more understanding to it these days than there used to be. My girlfriends sisters boyfriend started working at Mcdonalds as a server etc, he is now the manager, gets to pick what days he works as long as he does the contracted hours, gets decent money etc, and now has the title of Manager to go on his C.V which can go anywhere with him. There are very good opportunities in the fast food business, you just have to get through the initial part of the job which will be making the food or serving, and at the end of the day, even if you hate it, it's a job.
 
I agree on the fast food jobs not being such a bad choice. The acceptance and perceptions of it has definitely changed in aust in current times. It pays decently here, I recently saw a job for a maccas manager paying $72,000 for a 40 hour week.

Horse work is hard yakka. Animals dont know about easter or christmas holidays and some need care 24/7. Animal care is not a glamous lifestyle but extremely forfilling. I would love to get a few more animals at this place, I currently have an injured crow and injured magpie seeking refuge in my garden. Its not particularly suited to rabbit rescue but I do have room for a joey (or a quokka!)
 
HoppyHippy said:
I agree on the fast food jobs not being such a bad choice. The acceptance and perceptions of it has definitely changed in aust in current times. It pays decently here, I recently saw a job for a maccas manager paying $72,000 for a 40 hour week.

Horse work is hard yakka. Animals dont know about easter or christmas holidays and some need care 24/7. Animal care is not a glamous lifestyle but extremely forfilling. I would love to get a few more animals at this place, I currently have an injured crow and injured magpie seeking refuge in my garden. Its not particularly suited to rabbit rescue but I do have room for a joey (or a quokka!)
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Its nice to know there are so many people out there who do what they can for animals etc but it's such a high running cost business if you are trying to start your own welfare place etc.
 
Oh hell no. Im not about to be called by every frakknuckle who decides an animal is in need of care just cos its wandered into view. No, the animals in need will find their way to me. Im not looking for that to be my job, that will be part of my life though.
 
Before my brain was operated on in 2000 I built rock walls for a living, I was also on daytime call-outs for the local bushfire brigade. I was never out of work and I was often called to go to a fire in and near the burning/ fire season. I never considered life to short as I was always on the go. I never started work before 9 in the morning regardless of it taking 10 minutes to get to work or 1 and a half hours. I would often keep working until the sunset.
It is amazing how many animals you come across at big bushfires.
 
ILLYRIAN said:
Before my brain was operated on in 2000 I built rock walls for a living, I was also on daytime call-outs for the local bushfire brigade. I was never out of work and I was often called to go to a fire in and near the burning/ fire season. I never considered life to short as I was always on the go. I never started work before 9 in the morning regardless of it taking 10 minutes to get to work or 1 and a half hours. I would often keep working until the sunset.
It is amazing how many animals you come across at big bushfires.
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I think it comes more into perspective when you look at things that you could be doing or could have been doing and then before you know it the chances have gone etc. I look at where I could have been now had I have made a few different choices in the past etc, and when I look ahead I know that the chances of being able to do them are fading every day, and then before I know it I'll either be to old or just not in a position to do it lol.

I can imagine the bush fires were a scene as well, have only seen them from a television point of view.
 
HoppyHippy said:
I agree on the fast food jobs not being such a bad choice. The acceptance and perceptions of it has definitely changed in aust in current times. It pays decently here, I recently saw a job for a maccas manager paying $72,000 for a 40 hour week.

Horse work is hard yakka. Animals dont know about easter or christmas holidays and some need care 24/7. Animal care is not a glamous lifestyle but extremely forfilling. I would love to get a few more animals at this place, I currently have an injured crow and injured magpie seeking refuge in my garden. Its not particularly suited to rabbit rescue but I do have room for a joey (or a quokka!)
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True it can not be bad but you have to work your way up . And if you not a people person then it so going to be bad for you . One reason I don't like that job is I went in for job testing once & thy told me after that was all I could do . So I went & got a better job without them . If you don't like it you wont want to do it no matter the money.
 
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