Is the world better or worse?

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Just thinking while cooking bacon, it doesn't spit out of the pan anymore. Its thinner and less tasty. But on the other hand, I got it delivered right to my doorstep. Which is a big plus and better than no bacon at all.
 
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I should change my s/n to Spitting Bacon
Similar to a conversation I had with my dad recently. Stores have strawberries for longer now, British strawberries that is, but they have no smell or flavour.

I met him in the coffee shop after I'd picked some, amd obviously he tried mine, and was impressed by the flavour of them.
 
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I have heard that fruit and veg have less nutrients in them than they used to. So, maybe when you get store bought, you need more than five portions to get your five a day?
 
NotASlayer said:
I have heard that fruit and veg have less nutrients in them than they used to. So, maybe when you get store bought, you need more than five portions to get your five a day?
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I don't do 5 a day!

But I'd guess that because the soil is worse that's contributing to less nutrients. Plus all the pesticides etc that are used.
 
NotASlayer said:
I have heard that fruit and veg have less nutrients in them than they used to. So, maybe when you get store bought, you need more than five portions to get your five a day?
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Its more likely that the store brought has more nutrients than home grown. Stuff grown on farms is so strictly regulated and fed with fertilisers at perfect intervals. Less risk of parasites too! Most of the soil in the city tests positive for lead now lol.

The age of the food matters too, which is why they say snap frozen is best now.

I wonder if they are testing the difference between the food grown outside and the food grown inside/in greenhouses. We know direct sunlight is very important for the chemical make up, but I dont know if its been studied a lot yet. Im sure someone has. Its just more profitable to grow indoors, less risk of crop loss with bad weather etc.
 
nightshade said:
I don't do 5 a day!
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I have no idea how many I have on a daily basis but I do know how much fruit I eat in a week.

November said:
Its more likely that the store brought has more nutrients than home grown. Stuff grown on farms is so strictly regulated and fed with fertilisers at perfect intervals. Less risk of parasites too! Most of the soil in the city tests positive for lead now lol.
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I think the issue is what @nightshade mentioned; poorer soil. Which requires more fertiliser.

November said:
I wonder if they are testing the difference between the food grown outside and the food grown inside/in greenhouses. We know direct sunlight is very important for the chemical make up, but I dont know if its been studied a lot yet. Im sure someone has. Its just more profitable to grow indoors, less risk of crop loss with bad weather etc.
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In a toss up between making more money and making healthier food, the former has a tendency to win.
 
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And some isnt grown in soil at all anymore.
Moptop said:

Is the world better or worse?​

You need to finish the question with ......Than what???
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No, probably aussie coming through again.

I was just making points of things that were better in the past and the direct comparison of what is better about it now. Like bacon was sliced thicker a few years ago, but now I get it delivered right on my doorstep, when I couldn't previously. Vegies might have tasted better when the soil was still alive but now I have a freezer to keep them fresh.

Clothes dont last as long, but now I have a legitimate reason to update them every few years.
 
I agree with Moptop, You need to finish the question November, it is kinda correct though, but not the rest of it . . . tee hee

Thinking about your original statement, you should make the pigs run all over the place, that'll make the bacon spit out of the frying pan!
 
Nix said:
Nothing lasts anymore. Cookers, fridges, washing machines,
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Sad but so true....Yep, most appliances...ie, washers, dryers, fridges, dishwashers..... only have a 3-5 year life expectancy. The days of the 20 year appliance are long gone. I feel sorry for those people who buy those Samsung fridges with the "infotainment" screen in the door. They spending 5-6 thousand dollars U.S. on those things any they are only designed to last about 4 years.
 
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Don't forget how much is a "subscription" now. Even coffee makers and cars can run on subscriptions (and if you don't pay it then you may lose the use of your own appliance, I don't know how it's legal!). That will spread.
November said:
No, probably aussie coming through again.

I was just making points of things that were better in the past and the direct comparison of what is better about it now. Like bacon was sliced thicker a few years ago, but now I get it delivered right on my doorstep, when I couldn't previously. Vegies might have tasted better when the soil was still alive but now I have a freezer to keep them fresh.

Clothes dont last as long, but now I have a legitimate reason to update them every few years.
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Phones, your old Nokia didn't need screen protectors and cases, that thing would go and go. However I couldn't be typing on here with it, like I am with my current phone.
 
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Good one!
It depends, and I suspect nostalgia is getting to me as well. I'm inclined to think the world is worse in many ways, but not completely.

On a side note, I spoke to my cousin by phone today. The phone I used is 15 years old. HIS phone is older than him (used to belong to our grandmother), so I'd guess about 50 (even has a rotary dial!). And it still works. Compare to so-called "smart phones" that have to be replaced every few years (sometimes a single year) and are easily lost or broken (and I believe sabotaged by their makers when they're ready to sell a new phone).
 
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November
Yes! Apple is evil!
thrasherpix said:
On a side note, I spoke to my cousin by phone today. The phone I used is 15 years old. HIS phone is older than him (used to belong to our grandmother), so I'd guess about 50 (even has a rotary dial!). And it still works. Compare to so-called "smart phones" that have to be replaced every few years (sometimes a single year) and are easily lost or broken (and I believe sabotaged by their makers when they're ready to sell a new phone).
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I don't think they even need to actively sabotage them. Just keep doing software updates until the phone runs out of the space and computing power to cope with the updates. I keep mentioning that mine needs replacing, because the core software has now taken up so much space I can't install needed apps.
 
I have one hobby that I have had since 1964: I collect and restore antique radios. Some people don't understand the attraction, but when you look at my inventory, there are some radios that were built to a price and others that represented the best that the manufacturer and its designers could do. This is still the case in some ways, but you really have to search for the best ones and they are not cheap.

Some cars are designed well (build quality was not that much of a consideration - most cars are built according to the design drawings, it's the design that is often flawed) and the Subaru Legacy wagon I recently sold is a good example - it went 324,000 km / 200,000 miles and never had major problems other than a wiring harness where the rubber hood over the contacts had been cut off and the connector corroded - not a factory issue. But with the CVT transmission and direct injection, the new Impreza may not last that long. But if I had to maintain a car to last the rest of my life, I would get a 1960's GM car. They had long, trouble-free lives and could be repaired easily.

German car manufacturers have led the world in impossibility to repair things easily. There was an engine computer that had no PROM - everything was loaded into RAM and the computer operated from that. If your battery went dead or got disconnected, you had to tow the car to the dealer to get it reprogrammed. The only German car I ever owned was VW Rabbit and it didn't need a mechanic, it needed an exorcist. It went from new in 1977 to scrap in 1984.

The latest BMW cars have a subscription system for certain options - you have to pay a monthly fee to get the seat heaters to work.

Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware - is still the best advice for people looking for items they buy to be reliable.
 
[B]thrasherpix[/B] Don't forget how much is a "subscription" now. Even coffee makers and cars can run on subscriptions (and if you don't pay it then you may lose the use of your own appliance, I don't know how it's legal!). That will spread.

Now that's a new one on me. I've never heard of any home appliances having a subscription you needed to have for them to work. ......at least not in the U.S. anyway. Of course we do not have to buy a license to watch any broadcast TV programing either. If you can receive it via an antenna then it's free to watch. The same with any commercial radio broadcasts.
 
I have found that the air conditioner isn't necessarily cheaper these days.
Mainly though that I am old enough not to understand how them darned technology thingies tend to work effectively, not understanding them things properly tends to stop me turning them on, that is what causes them to run cheaper.
I do find it is easier to put on a sweater or a warm jacket, or both for when it gets really cold.
Hopefully one day they'll invent a television that runs on Low Pressure Gas, so that the room will keep warm whilst I watch it.
 
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