Joss and Neil Gaiman

That was great. I love on the last page when the two of them go off on how Hollywood producers mess with scripts.

And this from Joss on Wonder Woman makes me hopeful -

JW: In my head, it's the finest film ever not typed yet. It's incredible fun, partially because I was never actually a huge fan. I never really felt there was . . . there's been some great work, but never one definitive run on the book for her, and I'm not a fan of the show. I feel like I'm taking an icon I already know and creating it for the first time.
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Those guys...they say things off the top of their heads you've thought vague thoughts about, but could never put into words, and they nail them right down. They're amazing. It's like watching those little 12 year girl gymnasts, and you say "How do they do that? How is that possible?"
 
I thought this was interesting:

TIME: Tim Burton's Corpse Bride is out this month as well, making it effectively national Goth month.

NG: We are Goth icons. Joss and I. We don't have to be Goths, because we are Goth icons.

JW: I'm low on mascara. It's weird. I've made my bones with vampires, but I've never really associated anything I did with Goth that much, except that I've kind of made fun of them. I don't really see that as much at the conventions and stuff in the fan base. It might be somebody in Goth make-up coming up and saying, oh, this is for my mom.
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I never thought that Joss was really interested, never "into" the gothic trappings, the aesthetic of vamps and the undead and all that stuff. Not like a Tim Burton or even NG. You can tell he loves fantasy in general, comics, etc. And he found the vampire very useful as a metaphor.

I sorta sensed that Joss could hop over to doing a sitcom or Kellyesque legal show at any time. Fundamentally interested in human relationships, language itself, I think.
 
Kellyesque legal show
I may be being a bit dense here GB but I don't get that reference...have to agree with you though. I think that Joss could pretty much turn his hand to anything TV/movie related and do well (hate him for being so talented 😉)
 
Oh, well David E. Kelly is the master of the quirky legal dramedy in the States"”Ally McBeal, Boston Legal, some others...Kelly's weird genre mix of heavy drama, comedy, romance"”right up Joss's ally.

See, I'm thinking Matt Groening, then David Lynch, Chris Carter, Joss, Larry David, David E. Kelly, pretty much created 90's "postmodern" American TV.

And Joss will probably forever be associated with Buffy, genre TV. But, maybe it's too soon to tell. Maybe he'll turn into a Clint Eastwood, Ron Howard TV-to-movies big-time mogul.
 
Ah! Ally McBeal...I didn't really watch it (except for a couple of eps) but I see what you mean now...I preferred the Futurama version 😉

Anyhoo, I think you're right but I reckon Joss has already made the leap from genre work or, more accurately made the leap to genre work - from Roseanne, Toy Story and Parenthood (which I don't ever remember seeing but sounded OK from what I've read about it) to Buffy, Angel and Firefly.

I'd also add J. Michael Straczynski to your list but I suspect (like Joss) he has been tarred with the genre brush since his Babylon 5 days.
 
Yeah, point taken about Joss's early days.

It seems like I've read about Joss commenting on what a strange career he's had"”kind of falling back into the passions of his youth, with all the comic book stuff, fantasy projects. Parenthood was good, as I vaguely recall...

Another point from the article that I found ringing true was the fact that "geek culture" has sort of taken over everything now. There's less of a stigma attached to "genre""”now more than ever before. And, that's partly a product of the postmod state we're in. Genres bleeding together, mixing and matching...
 
LazyDolphin said:
Hey, Mr. P! Nice to see I'm not forgotten, even when I disappear for months at a time. 🙂
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Since the demise of BBC cult I've been relying on your blog for interesting titbits 😉
 
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