Joss Whedon's top 10 tips for screen writers

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Just thought that this might be interesting to those budding screen writers amongst us (including me):

Joss Whedon is most famous for creating Buffy the Vampire Slayer, its spin-off Angel and the short-lived, but much-loved Firefly series. But the writer and director has also worked unseen as a script doctor on movies ranging from Speed to Toy Story. Here, he shares his tips on the art of screen writing.

1. FINISH IT
Actually finishing it is what I'm gonna put in as step one. You may laugh at this, but it's true. I have so many friends who have written two-thirds of a screenplay, and then re-written it for about three years. Finishing a screenplay is first of all truly difficult, and secondly really liberating. Even if it's not perfect, even if you know you're gonna have to go back into it, type to the end. You have to have a little closure.

2. STRUCTURE
Structure means knowing where you're going; making sure you don't meander about. Some great films have been made by meandering people, like Terrence Malick and Robert Altman, but it's not as well done today and I don't recommend it. I'm a structure nut. I actually make charts. Where are the jokes? The thrills? The romance? Who knows what, and when? You need these things to happen at the right times, and that's what you build your structure around: the way you want your audience to feel. Charts, graphs, coloured pens, anything that means you don't go in blind is useful.

3. HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY
This really should be number one. Even if you're writing a Die Hard rip-off, have something to say about Die Hard rip-offs. The number of movies that are not about what they purport to be about is staggering. It's rare, especially in genres, to find a movie with an idea and not just, "˜This'll lead to many fine set-pieces'. The Island evolves into a car-chase movie, and the moments of joy are when they have clone moments and you say, "˜What does it feel like to be those guys?'

4. EVERYBODY HAS A REASON TO LIVE
Everybody has a perspective. Everybody in your scene, including the thug flanking your bad guy, has a reason. They have their own voice, their own identity, their own history. If anyone speaks in such a way that they're just setting up the next person's lines, then you don't get dialogue: you get soundbites. Not everybody has to be funny; not everybody has to be cute; not everybody has to be delightful, and not everybody has to speak, but if you don't know who everybody is and why they're there, why they're feeling what they're feeling and why they're doing what they're doing, then you're in trouble.

5. CUT WHAT YOU LOVE
Here's one trick that I learned early on. If something isn't working, if you have a story that you've built and it's blocked and you can't figure it out, take your favourite scene, or your very best idea or set-piece, and cut it. It's brutal, but sometimes inevitable. That thing may find its way back in, but cutting it is usually an enormously freeing exercise.

6. LISTEN
When I've been hired as a script doctor, it's usually because someone else can't get it through to the next level. It's true that writers are replaced when executives don't know what else to do, and that's terrible, but the fact of the matter is that for most of the screenplays I've worked on, I've been needed, whether or not I've been allowed to do anything good. Often someone's just got locked, they've ossified, they're so stuck in their heads that they can't see the people around them. It's very important to know when to stick to your guns, but it's also very important to listen to absolutely everybody. The stupidest person in the room might have the best idea.

7. TRACK THE AUDIENCE MOOD
You have one goal: to connect with your audience. Therefore, you must track what your audience is feeling at all times. One of the biggest problems I face when watching other people's movies is I'll say, "˜This part confuses me', or whatever, and they'll say, "˜What I'm intending to say is this', and they'll go on about their intentions. None of this has anything to do with my experience as an audience member. Think in terms of what audiences think. They go to the theatre, and they either notice that their butts are numb, or they don't. If you're doing your job right, they don't. People think of studio test screenings as terrible, and that's because a lot of studios are pretty stupid about it. They panic and re-shoot, or they go, "˜Gee, Brazil can't have an unhappy ending,' and that's the horror story. But it can make a lot of sense.

8. WRITE LIKE A MOVIE
Write the movie as much as you can. If something is lush and extensive, you can describe it glowingly; if something isn't that important, just get past it tersely. Let the read feel like the movie; it does a lot of the work for you, for the director, and for the executives who go, "˜What will this be like when we put it on its feet?'

9. DON'T LISTEN
Having given the advice about listening, I have to give the opposite advice, because ultimately the best work comes when somebody's ****ed the system; done the unexpected and let their own personal voice into the machine that is moviemaking. Choose your battles. You wouldn't get Paul Thomas Anderson, or Wes Anderson, or any of these guys if all moviemaking was completely cookie-cutter. But the process drives you in that direction; it's a homogenising process, and you have to fight that a bit. There was a point while we were making Firefly when I asked the network not to pick it up: they'd started talking about a different show.

10. DON'T SELL OUT
The first penny I ever earned, I saved. Then I made sure that I never had to take a job just because I needed to. I still needed jobs of course, but I was able to take ones that I loved. When I say that includes Waterworld, people scratch their heads, but it's a wonderful idea for a movie. Anything can be good. Even Last Action Hero could've been good. There's an idea somewhere in almost any movie: if you can find something that you love, then you can do it. If you can't, it doesn't matter how skilful you are: that's called whoring.

Some decent advice there.
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
write on!
Joan the Vampire Slayer
Joan the Vampire Slayer
this is great! thanks for posting!
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Relic
good find, thanks for posting it.
Yeah, this is great advice, no 5. Cut What you Love, that's tough, i don't think i could do that, haha, guess that's why i'm not a writer.
 
^ I've never really understood the "I love it, therefore it must go" mentality, either. Maybe the reason you love it is that it's some of your best writing and/or plotting, you know?
 
^ I've never really understood the "I love it, therefore it must go" mentality, either. Maybe the reason you love it is that it's some of your best writing and/or plotting, you know?

I think the problem comes when you love something and you make everything else try to fit around it. Thats ok for small things but the story is what matters and often times we get attached to one idea or concept and the whole thing suffers.
 
I figured what he meant by "if you love it, cut it" was that if you were trying to fix the script so that it led up to a certain moment that you loved, cut it and see where it takes you.

That's actually some very good advice. I can think of a few well-known screenwriters and novelists who could learn something from this.
 
^ I've never really understood the "I love it, therefore it must go" mentality, either. Maybe the reason you love it is that it's some of your best writing and/or plotting, you know?

It's tough love Mom. Sometimes you have to be prepared to hurt someone or something you've put a lot of work into to make that person or that thing into something a whole lot more pleasing.

I'm not saying it doesn't or won't hurt - but at times it just has to be done.
 
If someone could show me a good reason why a scene I really loved writing and poured everything I had into had to go, I'd cut it, don't get me wrong. But I've heard this exact advice before, and it always seems to come off as "you like it, therefore it sucks."
 
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perhaps its to lend strength to your writing? Like if the part you love is now on the back burner your going to strive to replace it with yet better whatever?
If someone could show me a good reason why a scene I really loved writing and poured everything I had into had to go, I'd cut it, don't get me wrong. But I've heard this exact advice before, and it always seems to come off as "you like it, therefore it sucks."

I've always had serious reservations about the "Kill Your Darlings" philosophy myself. It seems to me that if a good writer loves something he or she has written, that's probably because it's good.

Like any other advice, this should be viewed as a tool and not as a piece of dogma.
 
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I can see where you're coming from insofar as the "you like it, therefore it sucks" comment, but you have to remember that not everyone will see your piece of work in the same light as you do. Someone will always criticise it, no matter how brilliant it is; Someone will always praise it, no matter how rubbish it is; Someone will always pick fault where there is none and someone will always suggest an idea that they think will make your exceptional piece that little bit better.

As a writer it's up to you to either accept or decline the advice that other people give as ultimately it's up to you to decide what's staying and what's going, but listening to criticism as long as it's constructive and not destructive has always got to be a positive experience. Right?
 
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Same here. I've run into all of this so far with my little project....helpful criticism, praise, and nitpicking.
I can understand the, 'If you love it, cut it' theory. I tried it and the result was that I could take the story in a new direction. This works in film scripts and tv scripts.

Something I have started doing in the last few years is re-writing a book in script format
as it helps continuity, plot progression and doing an edit. It is also helpful when changing the setting of the story to be suitable and acceptable to other countries.
IE in the fanfic The New Angel Investigations the chapter The Beginning of the Day. As set in Australia the first part would involve a large house, where as changing the country to the UK it allowed me to use Kenilworth castle; a much better setting and more acceptible to readers in other countries. In script format it became easier to see what else needed changing.
 
Veyron
Veyron
Is this Angel fanfic complete? I'd love to give it a read.
Illyrian - don't you find it intensely difficult to write a novel in script format?

I tried and gave up after about three days - it was doing my head in. When I went back to writing in the normal sense of the word - chapter and verse so to speak - the writing went that much faster. Admittedly, I did cut several sections out of the completed product before re-writing other bits and adding in new bits that I thought would fit - a process that is still going on today - almost 3 years later.

When I was using the script format it was slow, cumbersome and a pain to read, nevermind write.
 
Are your novels done on the computer? If so make a copy of the file then change the format line by line, sure it takes time, but the errors in continuity are easier to see, parts that can be cut are more obvious, reading a line out loud will help you notice it may be said in an easier way and any edit can be done by yourself, as the professionals I've found so far, who charge $1000 plus, are crap. In one of my books the edit professional took ' steel toe capped work boots ' to ' steel capped work ' !! So the better you make your novels the better it'll be in the long run.
 
Having started up as a writer myself(for this little series called "Lone Wolves"...check it out at VBC Network, folks..), I can certainly take these tips to heart.

While writing the pilot, I sent it to someone who wrote for another virtual series, and the advice he gave was valuable...enough so that I reworked it a bit to make more sense. That did include chopping something out.
 
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