Justice League cuts

[Skanky Vamp]

According to Kevin Smith, here are the Snyder scenes which were cut or changed from the movie before the Whedon reshoots began:

• LONGER: Began with Bruce recruiting Aquaman. It was basically the same scene as I saw in the theatrical version this weekend. However, some lines were added by Whedon and some Zack bits were cut. Aquaman was originally more resilient and shut-off to Bruce here.

• DELETED: Barry Allen saving Iris West by breaking the glass.

• LONGER: History Lesson. But just by some bits. What I was most surprised by was that WB cut out dialogue by the Green Lantern, Zeus and even Ares (Yes, he was there too). They had a couple of lines each. As did Robin Wright and Hippolyta. They just kept the action in and clicked out all dialogue, I guess.

• DELETED: After taking the Mother Box from Themiscyra, Steppenwolf actually “talks” to the Box. His mother, Heggra’s essence is alive in the Mother Boxes and bringing them all together would unleash her powers – finally giving Steppenwolf an edge over his uncle – Darkseid. That is what his plan was originally. I thought for sure that they would keep this scene in because they used a dialogue from this scene in the trailers – “No protectors here. No Lanterns. This world will fall. You will be free, mother.”

• DELETED – Cyborg’s previous life. He plays a great football match that his MOTHER (Yes, she was cast as well) attends. Afterwards, they drive home. Victor is angry that his Dad never made it while his mother tries to console him. Victor just keeps getting angry and lashing out, loses control of the car – causing a fiery crash.

• LONGER – The Gordon scene had a little setup that I didn’t see in the theatrical version. Gordon dismisses a junkie and tells him to “get better at life” before another cop comes to him with drawings of Parademons. His conversation with the League also ran longer. First, he asks Wonder Woman “if she’s the same woman he keeps seeing reports of in London”. Then, he asks Cyborg “how does he eat? Does he even need to?”.

• DELETED: After the attack on Atlantis, Aquaman consults with Mera and Vulko over what he should do next. Mera wants him to stay as King because she “doesn’t trust Orm”. Vulko wants him to do what his heart says. Aquaman confesses that he feels a responsinility to help the people on Earth.

• DELETED: The League visits the Batcave. Alfred has humorous reactions to the League. Bruce Wayne talks about a “nightmare” he had. He believes that Steppenwolf will try and resurrect the power of Superman and “that they must do it first unless they want to fight an Evil Kryptonian too.”

• CHANGED: Superman’s resurrection was ONLY possible because Cyborg detects foreign genetic material in his DNA a.k.a the Codex. This is the final confirmation needed that Superman can be brought back to life after all. Then, the revival happens pretty much the same.

• DELETED: Deathstroke breaks Lex out of prison. They part ways because the cops are hot on their trail – deciding to meet up later at “the location they discussed”.

• DELETED: Kent Farm. Superman brings Lois here. however, he is still very confused and not knowing what’s happening. Bystanders are looking at him and clicking his photos. This confuses him further and he actually tries to attack the civilians with his laser-eyes before Lois manages to calm him down. Superman tells her that “the voices won’t shut up”. Later, Martha shows up here and Clark and Lois are already inside the house. Clark is calmer now but still very confused – his powers are going haywire and his senses are heightened. Martha gives the “Picture the world as an Island. Follow my voice and come back to me” speech from MoS. It seems to calm him down. Later, Clark is wearing his shirt when he sees Pa Kent (Yes, Costner was here too) out in the fields. He goes out to see him. Pa Kent talks about “embracing who you really are”. He tells Clark that “you have to make peace with who you are. You have the power to change the world and you can do that as anyone, good character or bad.” Clark finally embraces Superman as a part of him when Lois walks out. Clark confirms their engagement, Lois breaks down because she wasn’t strong enough. Then, Martha comes out too as Clark decides to help the League and flies off. That’s how it happened in my version. I may have paraphrased some dialogue but that was basically it.

• DELETED: Clark heads up to meet Alfred and gets his suit.

• DELETED: Steppenwolf’s second conversation with Heggra. Now that he has all three Mother Boxes – her return to this world can begin.

• CHANGED: Bruce’s conversation with Diana after Superman returns. Diana comes in to pop Bruce’s shoulder and tend to his injuries. Bruce reveals that he is willing to die to save the world. In fact, he says “he deserves to die because of what he’s done. He’s killed people and nothing, not even his hate for Superman can justify killing like that”. Diana tells him that “he’s changed now” but Bruce remains adamant that he can only atone himself by sacrificing his life.

• CHANGED: Bruce’s Batmobile is headed to certain death during the finale when Wonder Woman and Aquaman interfere and save his life. They tell him that dying in battle won’t do anything and he must live to keep the fight going.

• ALTERNATE ENDING WE WERE SHOWN: Cyborg tries to separate the Mother Boxes while Heggra keeps trying to talk him away. Furious, Steppenwolf grabs him and rips him apart – essentially killing him.

• CHANGED: Superman joins the fight and teams up with the League to defeat Steppenwolf. However, at one point, Steppy tries to tempt Superman into joining his army and we see Darkseid (for the first time) in Superman’s vision and we see flashes of the Knight-mare footage. However, Superman SNAPS back from it and delivers the final blow to Steppy, defeating him.

• DELETED: Steppenwolf is killed by Darkseid on Apokolips. Darkseid intends to come to Earth to “meet the Kryptonian”.

• DELETED: Aquaman meets Mera off the village coast and agrees to come back. Barry steps into the library, Iris smiles at him cutely.

• DELETED: Bruce and Barry place Victor’s “body” in the Batcave. Bruce comments that “his organic tissue is dead but it may be possible to reignite his mechanical parts”. Barry promises to help however he can.

• DELETED: Lois introduces Perry White to “Clark Kent a.k.a Superman“.

• The original after credit scene that was shot in principal photography was Bruce being woken in the night in his lake house by a green light and being visited by Tomar Re and Kilowog. It was cut fairly early on during post.

 

[Mrs Gordo]

Idk understand why no green lantern? Do they not own rights? Why talk about the lanterns if not going to be a part of her story??

So these were cut before Whedon came in to shoot? In other words this wasn’t Whedon’s decision?

Also man Bruce really is Angel (or vise versa) huh?

 

[Skanky Vamp]

So these were cut before Whedon came in to shoot? In other words this wasn’t Whedon’s decision?

No, those were cut FOR the reshoots. The only part that was cut prior to Whedon and was not cut as a result of the reshoots was the post-credit Green Lantern bit.

I don't know why they are afraid of using the Lanterns. Two possible reasons: The movie was bad but more likely Justice League was supposed to be two movies, the first and the second. I think they were going to use the post-credit scene to introduce them for the second movie. Since the scrapped the second movie, they scrapped the scene. That makes the most sense.

So many of those scenes that got cut would have made the movie much better. Much better.

 

[white avenger]

The movie was bad but more likely Justice League was supposed to be two movies, the first and the second. I think they were going to use the post-credit scene to introduce them for the second movie. Since the scrapped the second movie, they scrapped the scene

Has the second Justice League movie been officially scrapped? I know that the opening weekend ticket sales weren't very good, but as of the end of November, the world wide sales had passed $500,000,000, and that doesn't even consider the DVD sales. I'm not sure what the production cost was, but there should have been some profit there, surely.

I know the critics didn't like it, but the fans seem to be coming out, and from what I've been reading, the anticipated extended version on DVD, and possibly a separate all Snyder version are going to sell quite well.

 

[Skanky Vamp]

Has the second Justice League movie been officially scrapped?

The original plan was scrapped before Whedon took over. Not saying there won't be a second one sometime, but it won't be the one it was supposed to be.

I know that the opening weekend ticket sales weren't very good, but as of the end of November, the world wide sales had passed $500,000,000, and that doesn't even consider the DVD sales. I'm not sure what the production cost was, but there should have been some profit there, surely.

First, the overseas numbers (generally) are not accurate as the studio takes less than the ticket sales; the numbers that most people report are ticket sales. The film reportedly cost over 600 million to make, with some estimating between 650-700. So no, it's still a long way from making a profit, if it does.

 

[white avenger]

The film reportedly cost over 600 million to make, with some estimating between 650-700

Damn! I was figuring 2 to 3 hundred million, at most. Glad I own stock in MCU, and not DCEU.

 

[RomanticSoul]

First, the overseas numbers (generally) are not accurate as the studio takes less than the ticket sales; the numbers that most people report are ticket sales. The film reportedly cost over 600 million to make, with some estimating between 650-700. So no, it's still a long way from making a profit, if it does.

Box office doesn't equal profit for the studio, that's sure. I never understand why someone like Grace Randolph (I think that's her name) always makes such a big deal about the China box office for movies. It's a nice number if a movie does well there (as these CBMs tend to do), however China is the only country where the cinemas can keep almost all the money from ticket sales. Usual foreign ticket sales average around 50-60% depending on country. However for China I think it's around 80-90% that they can keep of the ticket sales. So if Justice League for example makes 100 million in terms of box office numbers (aka ticket sales), the studio only gets 8-9 million of the actual profit.

China is a huge market for these CBMs (and account for a lot of the overseas box office numbers) and most of them tend to make a lot of money in ticket sales. But box office is not studio profit.