wickedtiger86
Scooby
You are allowed to be confused and to ask questions. That is absolutely fine. We have a whole sub-forum devoted to it.
However, you cannot make personal attacks against other members, including the admin.
Karma Reinstated
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You are allowed to be confused and to ask questions. That is absolutely fine. We have a whole sub-forum devoted to it.
However, you cannot make personal attacks against other members, including the admin.
First of all I have to say I am so glad to get our Karma back. Secondly ( and that will surely goining on sb. nerves ;D) I miss the green boxes. They looked great and had flair. It was nice to compare them and to collect the boxes. I really miss them. They had been a part of my personally BB. I hope that someday they will return and then I will celebrate the day! 😀
shadcat
Yo ucan see the green boxes if you click on your profile. LEss distracting /meaningful that way
strawberryeve
Townie
Thanks for the feedback - the discussion thread regarding this seems to be closed and I would hope the admins would return the favor and not attack members with smug and rude comments like - "we can't read your mind"
Maybe a clarification of what threads are for discussion on the discussion board and which thread are just for saying, "wow, you're right" or "okay, cool" would be nice? Just saying. Like in real life, being an admin doesn't give you the right to be rude to people.
Black Eye Guy
Taking over the World!
Nothing about that post indicates to me that your an adult.
That is a serious load of hot air to be spewing out for absolutely no reason at all.
I for one would like to address your offensive first post where you were advised not to ask questions - Please reread the threads again and point out where you were advised to not ask question, I was personally replying to allot of the posts in there, and all I did was explain (and re-explain) the issue, and then repeat why Karma had been removed, if anything after the fourth or fifth time explaining the issue I could have posted stop asking questions, but no one did. I'm not gonna presume to know how Darla felt when she was replying to you, but I can tell you I got pissed at you, just because you were confused about something doesn't mean you can make claim like you were told to not ask questions, if we didn't want you asking questions the thread would have been closed.
You second post seriously needs an attitude adjustment, your fairly new here, your lucky that you maybe didn't experience the nasty comments in Karma, good for you. But it was happening, Darla has allot better things to be doing then taking away Karma to power play over you.
We clearly explained why Karma was removed from the whole boards, IT WAS A BIG ENOUGH ISSUE that we didn't go to each person individually.
If you reread the thread you'll see members say they experienced people leaving nasty comments in Karma, but all these people got drowned out by people demanding to know why Karma was removed, when it would be back and saying how they never saw the comments.
Darla didn't tell you to get back on topic by the way, she told Mr.Giles who asked something about his usertitle in this thread - this is a perfect example of you jumping on something, making a big deal of nothing, if you'd taken 2 seconds to properly read the post rather then get in a pissed off mood and start spouting all your crap about writing on blackboards you may actually understand a little bit of this issue.
We removed Karma to try and make this a better place, it was being misused so it was removed, I think removing it did exactly what it needed to, since it made a big enough deal that it was well known, hopefully we will see a reduction in nasty Karma. If not we'll continue to take further action to make this a better place.
Fact of the matter is, this is Darlas board and she can do whatever she likes with it, we've been around for a very long time, and the reason for that is Darlas judgement on dealing with issues like this.
Your entitled to your opinion on anything on here, but I would maybe know a little bit more about what your talking about, before you childishly call people out.
BuffyElevated
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Jules
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All I'd like to add is that if someone makes inaccurate statements I will respond to set the record straight. Just because your comments were directed at staff does not give you the right to say whatever you'd like without response. You get what you give.
strawberryeve
Townie
I mean seriously? If you walked into a shared living room and all the furniture was re-arranged and you asked, "whats up? why is all the furniture changed around" and the response was, "well, I moved it around. It's MY living room. I can move the furniture if I want"
"okay"
"no, not okay - I don't want any commentary from you about moving the couch!"
No one would ever talk like that to another person in real life because its unacceptable.
You walk into the same room a few days later and the furniture is back to its original place with a sign saying, "the furniture is now back where it was - if you misbehave I will move the furniture again"
so you say to the other people in the room, "Hey wasn't it weird when they moved the furniture all angrily? whats all this drama about?"
Would you walk up to that me and hand me a numbered list of reasons why I shouldn't talk about the moved furniture? Who behaves like that?
"okay"
"no, not okay - I don't want any commentary from you about moving the couch!"
No one would ever talk like that to another person in real life because its unacceptable.
You walk into the same room a few days later and the furniture is back to its original place with a sign saying, "the furniture is now back where it was - if you misbehave I will move the furniture again"
so you say to the other people in the room, "Hey wasn't it weird when they moved the furniture all angrily? whats all this drama about?"
Would you walk up to that me and hand me a numbered list of reasons why I shouldn't talk about the moved furniture? Who behaves like that?
Okay, now, that is NOT what occurred, neither from our side NOR yours.
Reputation was removed for a week and a half, for a very good reason, which was plainly stated multiple times. Perhaps just be happy that it's back and direct your time and efforts towards something important rather than this?
Reputation was removed for a week and a half, for a very good reason, which was plainly stated multiple times. Perhaps just be happy that it's back and direct your time and efforts towards something important rather than this?
strawberryeve
Townie
Well, I apologize if my first post offended you - I AM new here and I really thought everybody was very nice. I do have better things to do and since like many other members I can't spend hours of everyday on here I can't read every post and follow all the drama.
If I read a post like the ones I quoted above, no I'm not going to read the next 5 pages. And I can understand that it must be frustrating to deal with in-fighting among members but the tone of your response was a little too ... bureaucratic ... for my tastes. All I did was make a comment about how weird and confusing the whole thing was considering this is supposed to be a fun experience. You might feel like you're babysitting but your not and most adults are going to take offense to some stranger trying to discipline them for no reason. If anything, its just boring.
I'm sorry, but your post was not just making a "comment". Again, if you are going to post things that just aren't true, I will correct you. We post when and why things are done in the Board News forum. If you choose not to read them, then it is not our fault if you are confused by it. It is the responsibility of every member here to read what is posted in Board News.
We do what we think is best for the forum. I'm sorry if you didn't like losing karma for a week and a half. But we didn't sit around saying, "How can we mess with the members today? Let's remove karma!" like you seem to suggest. It was a problem that needed to be fixed. Removing it for a short time in my eyes was a better solution than the alternative, which was removing it permanently. Just because (perhaps) you yourself haven't made or received a nasty comment via karma does not mean it isn't happening to others. And to me it is more important that everyone have a good experience here than keeping a few people from feeling put out for a short time.
By your own admission, you seem to have skimmed the thread and gotten riled up by comments that you weren't reading carefully or in context. So I would suggest next time before you send off a post complaining about how something has put you out without explanation, you read the information in its entirety so that you can inform yourself of the reasoning behind it.
The fact of the matter is, you never asked a question about karma/reputation, so you could not have been told not to ask about it (and no one else was either). You were upset/confused because karma disappeared but didn't take the time to look for the news post explaining why.
It's easy to put this on me, but in the end, you were complaining about getting what you wanted which seems a little counter-productive, as does going round and round now.
I think we can consider this matter closed and move on now.
We do what we think is best for the forum. I'm sorry if you didn't like losing karma for a week and a half. But we didn't sit around saying, "How can we mess with the members today? Let's remove karma!" like you seem to suggest. It was a problem that needed to be fixed. Removing it for a short time in my eyes was a better solution than the alternative, which was removing it permanently. Just because (perhaps) you yourself haven't made or received a nasty comment via karma does not mean it isn't happening to others. And to me it is more important that everyone have a good experience here than keeping a few people from feeling put out for a short time.
By your own admission, you seem to have skimmed the thread and gotten riled up by comments that you weren't reading carefully or in context. So I would suggest next time before you send off a post complaining about how something has put you out without explanation, you read the information in its entirety so that you can inform yourself of the reasoning behind it.
The fact of the matter is, you never asked a question about karma/reputation, so you could not have been told not to ask about it (and no one else was either). You were upset/confused because karma disappeared but didn't take the time to look for the news post explaining why.
It's easy to put this on me, but in the end, you were complaining about getting what you wanted which seems a little counter-productive, as does going round and round now.
I think we can consider this matter closed and move on now.
Ok guys this gets ridiculous. Seriously you behave like childs. Get a break and then read through your posts again. Maybe you will see that they are a little bit overdone. This turns me and I guess a lot of other BB-members angry. Because it's not necessary!
[MENTION=11775]strawberryeve[/MENTION] made a post where she explained us what she thought. She as a Newbie was cionfused. I am a Forum-Newbie too and I was pretty confused too. I needed some time to get knonw to the "Karma" thing too. Yes there was sort of criticism in her post. Personally I think it was justified because I didn't get any warnings for the reasons of banning Karma. Something like: " Guys stopp doing this or that with Karma or we will enable it..." would have been nice.
But I see I'm getting out of aim. I don't want to question if the bannig was right or wrong, I just wantet to say that all members here are usual very kind. But it seems as if the "Be nice on the Internet Week" has been lifed and passed. Calm down. Neither [MENTION=2739]Darla[/MENTION], [MENTION=11775]strawberryeve[/MENTION] nor [MENTION=5973]Black Eye Guy[/MENTION] posted post which are, let's say "nice".
I don't want to get involved in this dispute, but I hate how you three treat each other. To Darla, personally I think very often that you write very "cold", sometimes I get the impression as if you give me orders. You're the admin, sometimes you have to give orders but sometimes a smiley or a please or some kind of joke would be nice. To Black Eye Guy, your post was wrong. If you can't post without getting offensive, don't post anything at all. 'Cause this "pisses me off"! And to strawberryeve in my eyes your first post was ok but your secon post was to upsetting too. I could understand Darla when she got angry because of it.
All in all I expect more "coolness" from moderates and admins especially when it goes about critisism. In my eyes they have to be able to handle with it. And may forum-members could keep calm and may we all can now check this all here of. See it as critism, may we can try to post "nice". I hope that you won't hate me now, I always have this fear when I write posts like this but your dispute seemed to get more and more offensive. Because of nothing. strawberryeve said what she disliked and we should accept it and don't try to convince her or critisise her because of her opinion. Phoo... that's definitive the longest post I ever wrote. ;D
[MENTION=11775]strawberryeve[/MENTION] made a post where she explained us what she thought. She as a Newbie was cionfused. I am a Forum-Newbie too and I was pretty confused too. I needed some time to get knonw to the "Karma" thing too. Yes there was sort of criticism in her post. Personally I think it was justified because I didn't get any warnings for the reasons of banning Karma. Something like: " Guys stopp doing this or that with Karma or we will enable it..." would have been nice.
But I see I'm getting out of aim. I don't want to question if the bannig was right or wrong, I just wantet to say that all members here are usual very kind. But it seems as if the "Be nice on the Internet Week" has been lifed and passed. Calm down. Neither [MENTION=2739]Darla[/MENTION], [MENTION=11775]strawberryeve[/MENTION] nor [MENTION=5973]Black Eye Guy[/MENTION] posted post which are, let's say "nice".
I don't want to get involved in this dispute, but I hate how you three treat each other. To Darla, personally I think very often that you write very "cold", sometimes I get the impression as if you give me orders. You're the admin, sometimes you have to give orders but sometimes a smiley or a please or some kind of joke would be nice. To Black Eye Guy, your post was wrong. If you can't post without getting offensive, don't post anything at all. 'Cause this "pisses me off"! And to strawberryeve in my eyes your first post was ok but your secon post was to upsetting too. I could understand Darla when she got angry because of it.
All in all I expect more "coolness" from moderates and admins especially when it goes about critisism. In my eyes they have to be able to handle with it. And may forum-members could keep calm and may we all can now check this all here of. See it as critism, may we can try to post "nice". I hope that you won't hate me now, I always have this fear when I write posts like this but your dispute seemed to get more and more offensive. Because of nothing. strawberryeve said what she disliked and we should accept it and don't try to convince her or critisise her because of her opinion. Phoo... that's definitive the longest post I ever wrote. ;D
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Buffy Summers
Pleae don't mention me in posts, I hate it. Thanks :)
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caitaintdead
Well written buddy :)
EvilWillow
Scooby
Thank you Ripper666 for your input, but I do agree with Darla's previous post that we should consider this matter closed and move on. 🙂
Also we should all be careful about saying what posts are 'wrong' or what tone a post should be made in, writing is in the end up to the reader's interpretation and regardless of smiley's used or not you may be misunderstanding a tone that wasn't intended to be cold/warm at all.
So lets put this past us and move on please...
karma is back, use it responsibly!
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Also we should all be careful about saying what posts are 'wrong' or what tone a post should be made in, writing is in the end up to the reader's interpretation and regardless of smiley's used or not you may be misunderstanding a tone that wasn't intended to be cold/warm at all.
So lets put this past us and move on please...
karma is back, use it responsibly!
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caitaintdead
This is the greatest pro-cait/australian post ever.
Oh something I forgot to do before that I meant to - it is now not possible to leave karma on posts in closed threads. Hopefully that will help keep fights from erupting in karma after threads are closed.
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EvilWillow
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ashleigh
Ha, I read this as if you WANTED fights in Karma.
Goby
Brb, shipping Snoyce
I gave my first neg karma, and it felt great!!! I know some people "collect" karma, and one of my favorite people [MENTION=10498]Willow My Love[/MENTION], listed her top 10 Angel episode, and didn't include NFA. Since that may be my favorite episode in the Whedonverse, I nagged her.
And I didn't have to worry about points, or hurting her feelings, etc. 😀
And I didn't have to worry about points, or hurting her feelings, etc. 😀
Buffy Summers
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Willow My Love
And you know what? It was for a valid reason. I'm not upset about it anyhow. :)