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I don't play the lottery. Though I been thinking about this for ages.. part of me would just like to buy 1000 tickets or so. I mean, you'd think if you bought a thousand friggin tickets you'd have a pretty good chance at winning, right? Then I think what a waste of money. But that thought has stayed with me for a long time.

Do you play the lottery? What's the most you spent at one time?
Is it dumb to spend 2 grand on tickets for a chance to win 500 million?
 
I knew a homeless guy who'd buy like a hundred tickets at a time (I forget the exact number). Virtually every time he made more than he spent, but not enough to be worth doing it all the time (as in just recycling in California, back when that was a thing for the homeless to do, paid off more).

As for writing out numbers or whatever...assuming you can do that...I shudder at the thought of going through all of them one by one, day by day, in the hopes one paid off even enough to profit. Sounds too much like a real job, only without the benefits. I bet the big pay days (as opposed to $50) are so rare that not even that guy I just mentioned could pull it off.
 
I shudder at the thought of going through all of them one by one, day by day, in the hopes one paid off even enough to profit.
Yes, that was a deterrent as well. Not to mention the poor cashier that I would buy them from.
 
I play the UK lottery, two lines for both draws. It's £2 a ticket and the most I've won is £63 🤣 But you could say I don't play to win, I play for the thought of winning. It's something to dream about and plan for in a daydream kinda way. There is a Euro lottery which a lot of UK people have won. I don't do that one, but a few of my friends do and so I also dream of them winning and giving me a million.
 
In theory I play it. In practice, I conned the kids into buying my ticket when they bought their own so I probably owe them about £200. If I've ever won they haven't mentioned it (I might have told them to keep small prizes).

According to Quora the odds of winning Powerball after buying 1000 tickets "are about 1000 / 175,000,000 (that is roughly 1 / 175,000 or 0.0005714%)". It's priced in dollars so I presumed it was US.
 
Don't the odds remain the same though ?

2 grand is a dumb punt on lottery tickets . But I've heard dafter routes to riches 😀 Just buy a couple , 1000 chances of 1 in 3 hundred million is still no real chance . It's just a bit of fun . I win little bits quite a lot ...but I consider the lottery a luxury item ... a tiny bit of escapism .

I've also started to enter house raffles , which are becoming a thing over here . There's usually a hefty charitable donation , couple of quid is just a bit of a chuckle . There was one place that was such a money pit , I was actually frightened of winning it 😀 .

A guy I actually know was big into Scratchcards . One £5 card came out , '30 grand a year for life' . He became fixated with the damn thing ...and won it .
So , there's some really dumb plans out there that come to fruition .
 
I play occasionally, and like Priceless, I feel like it's buying a dream for a short time. I think it would be better if our (US) lotteries were more like Spain's "El Gordo," where a lot of people win something, instead of one person getting the big jackpot. In my state (and probably most), the money goes to schools, so you're doing that much, even if you don't win!
 
The UK lottery is a charity powerhouse . I'd like to see them change how/who they fund but you can't fault the numbers .

My favourite is the Euromillions , mostly because of the extra 'millionaire maker' code that comes on the ticket . I would rather they gave out the excess jackpot money in big lumps periodically . Noone really needs 20-400 million to be happy ...but most poor folk would be delirious with a million . Spread the jackpots around , I reckon .

I used to be a problem gambler . I could almost certainly make money out of cricket betting and other stuff too , but like gambling waaaay too much to keep it strictly business .

When I go to a real town I buy a scratchcard . Won a tenner last time out , so next time I'm in I'll get another card and use the remaining money for a little treat . When I win more than small change , that's how I like to do it . Use my good fortune for something real .

I have resisted all forms of online gambling (for obvious reasons 😉 ) but when lockdown kicked in , started a Lottery account . Keep my budget small and cherry pick the draws. May block myself from the Scratchcards now the world is opening again , but the online lottery tickets are way better . Want to hang onto those .
 
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Interesting little article from here . Ooh ,well I never


Buying more lottery tickets is a sure-fire way of losing more money, and philosophically speaking, it doesn’t even increase your chances of winning.

Think of it this way. If you have two tickets in your hand, which one is more likely to win? Neither, right? They both stand the same chance. And just because you have two tickets in your hand it doesn’t increase the likelihood that one of them will win, it just means you paid out (or lost) twice as much.

Yet conventional wisdom dictates that whenever a jackpot swells above a certain life-changing amount we should increase the number of tickets we buy in order to be in with a better chance of winning. Office whip-arounds are set up, syndications are born, and we all take turns to sneak out of the office and buy five times as many tickets as we would do on any other occasion.

And with jackpots becoming increasingly monstrous the instances of this happening appear to be going up. According to one news report high-earners in Canary Wharf have taken to bulk-buying lottery tickets whenever the jackpot gets above £70m to £80m in the EuroMillions, with local shops forced to take on extra staff to cover the surge in demand. Peter Wagg, owner of the News of the Wharf store, told the Financial Times that one City worker bought £15,000 worth of “lucky dips” tickets on one occasion and paid in bundles of £50 notes. No news of a jackpot winner was reported in the area after the draw.


Surprising, you may think, yet had the same man stood outside the shop and flipped a coin 15,000 times would you expect the fact that he is tossing it so many times to alter the result? Of course not, but that is the very reason people crowd around roulette tables at a weekend convincing themselves that after landing on black five times the ball must surely now land on red. It might, it might not. It has a 50/50 chance. And that doesn’t alter whether it is the first spin or the 5,000th.

As anyone who has ever set foot into a philosophy class will know, the probability of something occurring does not increase as you use it. The mathematicians will no doubt scoff, but there is reason to believe that. My brother put it to me recently that he doesn’t know anyone who has won the lottery, nor does he know anyone who knows anyone, but he still chips in for his work’s syndicate, which flies in the face of his realisation that more does not necessarily equal more likely. So why do we do it?

Well, there are some grounds to believe that your odds of winning go up the more tickets you buy, but you should be careful which theory to believe. For example, the notion that if you buy one ticket you have a 1 in 45,057,474 chance of winning and if you buy two tickets you have a 2 in 45,057,474 chance of winning is just crude mathematics, because if two variables are independent you can’t sum the probability. Math that can be used to determine your odds of winning a raffle (where all prizes must go) can not be used to determine your odds of winning the lottery (where there does not have to be a winner).

You might, however, want to look into theories around binomial distribution, but you will find that not only is the theory seriously complex, its findings also show that while you are more likely to win at least once by playing more, you’re also expected to have lost more money, which is a factor people often neglect to account for.

So in summary, think twice before buying more than one lottery ticket. Or perhaps just think once. But know the more you buy the more likely you are to lose
 
Think my family played the National Lottery about 20 years ago. Also remember people at my work at the time playing it, but I never opted in. I guess its worth a go if your not paying too much. Its not something I'm that interested in. At least if part of the money goes to charity that's something good.
 
I am surprised most companies allow their people to go in on a lottery. If they win, who is going to show up for work the next day?

I see lotteries as a tax on stupidity. We tax income which comes from intelligence, work and effort and this tends to discourage intelligence, work and effort. Why not have an idiot tax?
 
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Very true... they'll be no workers left
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Surprising, you may think, yet had the same man stood outside the shop and flipped a coin 15,000 times would you expect the fact that he is tossing it so many times to alter the result?
This is not quite accurate, because each coin flip is a separate bet, but the 15,000 tickets are all on one bet. It's just that 15,000 chances out of 302 million (for one US lottery) aren't that much better than one chance.

I am surprised most companies allow their people to go in on a lottery. If they win, who is going to show up for work the next day?
This actually happened to my mom's friend's son. A bunch of co-workers went in on tickets, and one paid off big, and they all quit. But they worked at a meat-processing plant, and it always cheers me up to hear a story like that, someone with a crappy job/life winning big. Of course, I don't stop to think about the people playing who can't afford to, and are mostly not going to win.
 
Occasionally I do play...but never Mega Millions or Powerball because that's just crazy.

Usually it's Super Lotto... I figure if you're meant to win, you will. The most money I've spent was about $50. The most I've won is $300. I NEVER get my hopes up, because I'd go completely insane if I focused on winning.
 
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What was that? Oh right, you said you GO completely insane .. .. .. tee hee.
I played the UK Lottery for about 20 weeks when it first started, but was incredibly bad/unlucky at it. I would get two lines each week & often wouldn't get a single number across the two. Although I was quite good at picking the numbers next to the drawn ones.

It got so bad my friends used to ask what numbers I had chosen & then do lines of the numbers either side of my choices.
They got quite a few small wins out of that tactic......me, I never won a cent! 😀
 
I don't consider the probability of ever gaining a win, I just like that some of my money is going to aid those worse off than me.
 
I remember back in the day lots of people said the lottery was a tax on the poor, as they're the only ones who would play. Perhaps they're right, but I think even the poorest need something to look forward to and dream about.
 
Yeah , rich folk have been saying something like that since the 17th century . 😛 Of course , the reality is we all play for a variety of reasons . For me it's a cheap way to sublimate my erstwhile problem gambling . I actually take a bit of social pleasure out of it too .

Same as scratchcards . I make a trip , buy a cigar or something , a nice shot of whiskey , a scratchie, a newspaper , maybe a cooked breakfast with a beverage . That's retail pampering for me . I think nearly every aspect of my lunchtime treat has been called the scourge of the poor/stupid at some stage . 😀

The corrosive aspect of gambling is definitely there in the Scratchies/Lotto . You should see some of the Polish round here go wild on scratchcards after a long shift at the abbatoir . That's a problem . Once you start staking what you can't afford to lose ...or a whole days wages before you've even got home from work 🙄. That's hardcore .

The only downside of the Lotto is the number of draws every week . I could see that being a problem for low income households . It must be about 15 quid for a line on everything ?
 
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