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Lovers Walk​

Writer: Dan Vebber
Director: David Semel
Air Date: November 24, 1998

Trivia:

- As a child, Charisma Carpenter really was impaled on a rebar. She was playing in the backyard of her house, where they were building a pool. There was no fence around it, and she slipped in and punctured her stomach on a piece of rebar poking out of the concrete.

- After seeing James Marsters's performance in this episode, the writers decided he would become a regular cast member in the next season.

- According to the "Welcome to Sunnydale" sign which Spike ran over, the population of Sunnydale is 38,500.

- More Sunnydale area locations: Breakers Woods, which has a clearing in which druidic rituals were performed and which is about a 45-minute drive from Sunnydale High; a pier which Xander and Cordelia went to; and a magic shop in the downtown square, which is different from the magic shop Ms. Calendar patronized in "Passion."

- The Mayor was fully aware of Spike's presence and activities in Sunnydale during the second season.

- After leaving Sunnydale in "Becoming (Part 2)," Spike and Drusilla went to Brazil, which is where she left him.

- Oz's heightened werewolf senses are at least partially in effect when he's in human form.

References:

- "I'm Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel." Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel is an intensely stupid, backwoods hick stereotype guy who pops up as a recurring character on The Simpsons.

Body Count:

- 4 Vampires, Magic Shop Clerk.

Goofs:

- Spike is seen disinfecting his hand burn with alcohol, but this would be unnecessary, as vampires cannot be infected by any natural diseases.

- At 16:43, as Xander walks toward Willow in the chemistry lab, the tip of the boom microphone dips into the frame.

Best Quotes:

- Spike: You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both. You'll fight and you'll shag and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends. Love isn't brains, children, it's blood. Blood screaming inside you to work its will. I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.

- Angel: How can... There's gotta be some way we can still see each other.
Buffy: There is: Tell me that you don't love me.

- Buffy: She saw these scores and her head spun around and exploded.
Giles: I-I've been on the Hellmouth too long. That was metaphorical, yes?

- Oz: I can see why you'd be upset. Oh, that was my sarcastic voice.
Xander: You know, it sounds a lot like your regular voice.
Oz: I've been told that.

- Willow: He-he wants me to do a love spell.
Xander: What?
Willow: Drusilla broke up with him.
Xander: Gee, and we had all hoped those crazy kids would make it work.

- Spike: Ahhh, my head. I think I'm soberin' up. It's horrible. Ah, God, I wish I was dead.
Buffy: Well, if you close your eyes and wish realy hard...

- Spike: This should be a kick.
Buffy: I violently dislike you.

- Willow: There will be no "having" of any kind with me.

- Spike: We killed a homeless man on this bench. Me and Dru. Those were good times.
Spike: You know, he begged for mercy, and, you know, that only made her bite harder.
Buffy: I guess you had to be there.

Soundtrack:

- "My Way"
Gary Oldman, James Marsters

The Title:

- The title of the episode has been cited on listings, books and DVD covers and menus variously as "Lovers Walk", "Lover's Walk" and "Lovers' Walk". However, the introduction to Rhonda Wilcox's Why Buffy Matters says, "the script apparently does not carry an apostrophe, by the way--making for a short, sad, declarative sentence for a title."

Angel's book:

- The book Angel is seen reading is La Nausée by Jean-Paul Sartre; its main theme is the nature of existential angst, a quality often associated with Angel. The fact that the cover features the original French title suggests Angel is proficient enough with French to read the book in its original language. La Nausée has a great deal of personal significance for Joss Whedon. In his commentary for the Firefly episode "Objects in Space," Whedon says that when he first began to think about the meaning of life a friend gave him La Nausée, which defined his interpretation of existence.

Continuity

- Buffy's last words to Angel ("Tell me you don't love me") are identical to the script she and Angel were forced to re-enact when possessed by the ghosts of a murder-suicide couple in the episode "I Only Have Eyes for You".

- Cordelia asks "who would ever want to return to Sunnydale". After season three, Cordelia leaves and never returns to Sunnydale.

- Spike's arrival in Sunnydale in the opening is a near-perfect recreation of his arrival in "School Hard" right up until he rams his car into the "Welcome to Sunnydale" sign.

Arc Significance

- Spike makes his sole appearance this season before returning as a permanent regular in Season 4. He is still trying to recapture Drusilla's heart and resists the temptation to kill Willow in order to achieve it; he later reveals to Willow the extent of the bloodlust that he felt for her at this point.

- Joyce amiably hosts Spike in her house for the first time. This pattern will repeat several times later in the series.

- Buffy recognizes for the first time that her relationship with Angel is doomed.

- Xander and Willow's indiscretion has a major impact on their respective relationships.

- This episode marks an early example of Willow automatically turning to magic to solve human problems and make her own life easier; as her powers grow stronger, so does her impulse to use magic as a catch-all problem solver and to manipulate human emotions. Eventually (Season Six), it becomes an addiction and has drastic implications for her life.

- This episode marks the first time that Willow uncomfortably tries to comfort a highly distraught Spike. This dynamic will return in the Season Four episode "The Initiative," when Spike tries to attack Willow in her dorm room but is painfully hindered by his newly-implanted chip.

- Oz recognizes Willow's scent. This is also significant in "New Moon Rising" when he smells her scent on Tara.

- Spike's famous "Love's bitch" speech to Buffy and Angel, also can be seen to accurately describe Buffy and Spike's relationship in season six.

- This is the final episode with Xander & Cordelia in a relationship. Their relationship remains strained until the prom.



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Oh princess, it doesn't let me give you reputation points again! Congrats for the info! I never knew that about Charisma! oh my God poor Charisma!!!

And this episode is one of the greatest episodes of s3.

"Tell me you don't love me" and Angel says nothing. They love each other and even Spike can sense and feel that. I disagree with his opinion though. Angel and Buffy CAN be friends. Buffy always runs to Angel when she faces trouble. But they will always want MORE. It is clearly impossible to stay away from each other when they are together!:giggle:
 
I think it was really selfish of Buffy asking Angel to tell her that he doesn't love her, because she loved him too. I mean, what's the point.. like she could live in his presence loving him, but knowing he doesn't love her. It would be only harder for her.
 
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well she was trying to be brave...I can't find any other logic explanation...sometimes love is not logic
Love Spike's speech in this episode and how well he and Buffy fight together. Even when enemies they're in tune with each other!

Interesting facts, too. Didn't know that Charisma was actually impaled on a rebar - ouch!
 
Love this episode. Spike's return and dialogue with Angel and Buffy is hilarious and why people just love him as a character. His bluntness is hilarious, his sobbing over Dru is also hilarious and its just great entertainment that only Spike can bring. The facial reaction when Buffy says "He's probably hiding them in some building" is priceless. :biggrin3:

James Marsters, fantastic performer.
 
This episode is one of my faves of the season... It's heartbreaking to watch Cordelia and Oz at the moment they walk in to find Willow and Xander kissing, no matter how much I had wanted Xillow to happen up until that point.
I loved this bit of trivia:
- As a child, Charisma Carpenter really was impaled on a rebar. She was playing in the backyard of her house, where they were building a pool. There was no fence around it, and she slipped in and punctured her stomach on a piece of rebar poking out of the concrete.
That is pretty interesting; never knew that before!
 
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Love this episode! My fav of season 3 so far (I'm on my 2nd complete rewatch). Buffy/Angel/Spike interaction is so awesome: I love their banter, and fighting on the same side (well, relatively speaking). You don't get to see a lot of that, and it makes me wonder what it would've been like if SMG had appeared in AtS season 5 after all.
 
This was a good episode but it never floored me the way it did with most fans. There is not much plot here ... Spike comes to town on very flimsy reasons, kidnaps Willow on very flimsy reasons, trades a few barbs with Bangel, then leaves on very flimsy reasons. The only thing that redeems it is that Spike's lines are superb and JM delivers them excellently.
 
LOVE this episode. I'm not a big fan of S3 (though I admit it's a good season, but maybe the lack of Spike affects me), but this episode worth the watching of the whole season.

And I know in this episode Spike kidnaps Willow and almost shoves a bottle into her face, but in later seasons, is it me or do Spike and Willow like each other? Not romantically of course, and he's evil and she's good. But overall, I think they kinda understand each other, on some level. They also have great chemistery. Maybe that has something to do with that.
 
This was a good episode but it never floored me the way it did with most fans. There is not much plot here ... Spike comes to town on very flimsy reasons, kidnaps Willow on very flimsy reasons, trades a few barbs with Bangel, then leaves on very flimsy reasons. The only thing that redeems it is that Spike's lines are superb and JM delivers them excellently.

Spike's performance for me makes this episode a great one, it doesn't need a great plot. :biggrin3:
 
And I know in this episode Spike kidnaps Willow and almost shoves a bottle into her face, but in later seasons, is it me or do Spike and Willow like each other? Not romantically of course, and he's evil and she's good. But overall, I think they kinda understand each other, on some level. They also have great chemistery. Maybe that has something to do with that.

Interesting thought. When I read this I thought of the scene where Willow consoles Spike after he gets a chip in his head. Maybe this episode does set up Willow's more ambivalent (she doesn't hate Spike nearly as much as the other Scoobs do) relationship toward Spike.

And, they do have great chemistry. Spike and Willow are the two characters on Buffy who get along/have chemistry with almost everyone, so it doesn't surprise me they would have it with each other.
 
Spike's performance for me makes this episode a great one, it doesn't need a great plot. :biggrin3:

ITA! Who cares about plot in this instance- it's quintessential Spike: the wit, and the observations. I went back and watched the scene with Spike & Joyce and just had to add it as an avatar. I LMAO!!
 
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Interesting thought. When I read this I thought of the scene where Willow consoles Spike after he gets a chip in his head. Maybe this episode does set up Willow's more ambivalent (she doesn't hate Spike nearly as much as the other Scoobs do) relationship toward Spike.

And, they do have great chemistry. Spike and Willow are the two characters on Buffy who get along/have chemistry with almost everyone, so it doesn't surprise me they would have it with each other.

I totally agree when you talk about Willow understanding Spike better than the other Scoobies. I can't actually remember a moment where those two had any friction even when Spike kidnapped Willow she tried to talk to him not just have a verbal spat.
 
The facial reaction when Buffy says "He's probably hiding them in some building" is priceless. :biggrin3:
Hahahahahahaha, yeah.

"How thick do you think I am?"

That reaction was classic.

LOVE this episode. I'm not a big fan of S3 (though I admit it's a good season, but maybe the lack of Spike affects me), but this episode worth the watching of the whole season.
I wholeheartedly agree with this quote in its entirety, but I think S3 is actually my favorite season IMO in spite of the fact that Spike is only in one episode. Looking back on it, I think that Season three is possibly my favorite BtVS season, yet I wouldn't necessarily say it was the best (well, in a way one might say that...). I hope that makes sense, but I feel that it was just such a good season, and this episode in particular would be in my top five. Top 3 even - of the entire show. Its odd because the ep can stand on its own and has much more replay value than a lot of the others in S3, and yet, it segues nicely into the next episode in the season and is just so gosh darn fun to look forward to when starting the season off!

edit: actually, let me recant a bit. It might be more accurate for me to say that S3 *was* the best season IMO in many ways, but not necessarily my favorite. Its hard to explain.

Lovers Walk​


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My response to that:

[in the same voice and tone Spike used when he said "Love the coat" to Nikki]Loved the OP.[/in the same voice and tone Spike used when he said "Love the coat" to Nikki]

Seriously, thanks for sharing that.
 
Hahahahahahaha, yeah.
Its odd because the ep can stand on its own and has much more replay value than a lot of the others in S3, and yet, it segues nicely into the next episode in the season and is just so gosh darn fun to look forward to when starting the season off!

I agree its just an easy episode to watch, full of comedy.
 
This actually is my favourite episode so far!
Thanks for those facts 🙂

Love that scene where Spike talks to Buffy's mum x]
 
The Title:

- The title of the episode has been cited on listings, books and DVD covers and menus variously as "Lovers Walk", "Lover's Walk" and "Lovers' Walk". However, the introduction to Rhonda Wilcox's Why Buffy Matters says, "the script apparently does not carry an apostrophe, by the way--making for a short, sad, declarative sentence for a title."


I hadn't even thought about that before.

That kinda changes the way I look at this episode now. =/
 
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