Men hitting women

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Thanks for the comments guys. It was just something that's been on my mind for a while. Like I said, I feel as though it's wrong for anyone to resort to violence as a way to solve problems. Abuse is abuse. Sorry if I've raised some people's blood pressure. 😱 I know how sensitive these issues are.
 
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It's good to talk about them, I think. I'm glad you brought this up for discussion!
BTW, have you ever notice how often Buffy is the instigator of violence? Especially towards Spike (and perhaps other men).

I haven't watched BtVS specifically looking for this, but I know Spike has said things like "I Love You" and Buffy's response was a punch. And it happened when he had his chip.
 
BTW, have you ever notice how often Buffy is the instigator of violence? Especially towards Spike (and perhaps other men).

I haven't watched BtVS specifically looking for this, but I know Spike has said things like "I Love You" and Buffy's response was a punch. And it happened when he had his chip.

that's just four play
 
BTW, have you ever notice how often Buffy is the instigator of violence? Especially towards Spike (and perhaps other men).

I haven't watched BtVS specifically looking for this, but I know Spike has said things like "I Love You" and Buffy's response was a punch. And it happened when he had his chip.

That bugs me a lot. I find myself thinking "What the heck did you hit him for?!" during a lot of Spuffy scenes. I mean, her whole premise of "He has a chip, we can't stake him" doesn't make much sense with her pummeling him constantly and he can't defend himself!
 
I think all violence is horrible and noone should hit anyone. It is a big problem that when men or people in gay relationships get abused by their partner it isn't taken as seriously as when a woman gets abused by a man. This really need to change.

With that said. I it is a difference if a woman gets hit by a man than if a man gets hit by a woman. Both is just as horrible and should result in actions being taken by the abuser (I think treatment is a better way of handling it than jail though). But partner violence isn't a gender less thing that can be talked about in a context of "crazy individuals". It is a sign of a problem that's basically in every part of our society - patriarchy. Men's violence against women is happening in a much, much lager scale than the opposite. That's a fact. Men and women aren't equal today and men's violence against women is a clear sign of that.
 
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good points
BTW, have you ever notice how often Buffy is the instigator of violence? Especially towards Spike (and perhaps other men).I haven't watched BtVS specifically looking for this, but I know Spike has said things like "I Love You" and Buffy's response was a punch. And it happened when he had his chip.

Yes, I've given this a lot of thought. I read a really great essay about role/gender reversal and the issue of domestic abuse in season 6 of Buffy, and was actually just discussing it in another thread. I have my issues with it for sure and it actually took me a while to come to terms with Buffy, (the character), after season 6 and it's certainly one of the things that opened my eyes to how much I liked Spike. But with regard to the dynamics of Spuffy in season 6, I think initially I shipped them because I wanted so much for her to change her mind and see how much he was trying to better himself. And as I've said on here before, if it wasn't for the transformations on behalf of both characters in season 7, I wouldn't not be able to ship Spuffy.
 
Right there with ya.

I do agree that women do abuse men sometimes and that it's not okay. I watched a clip of the Dr. Phil show the other day...about a woman who abused her husband who was in the army. The comments were so sick. Some people claimed to know her and they said, "He's not as innocent as they're making him out to be. He cheated on her." So...he deserves to get slapped around for cheating? If a man abused his wife for cheating, people would call him a monster. I find it horrible either way. I think most people find it worse when a man hits a girl because of the whole "women aren't in control of their emotions" crap. A woman can slap a man because she's on the rag or she's just too emotional, but if a man does, he's a bastard who deserves to be locked up. No one has any right to hit someone! I don't know. If a woman pushes a man away from her in disgust or while they're fighting (as in arguing), that isn't seen as abuse. She's just upset. If a man does it, it's horrible. I do agree that men are typically stronger than women, and that a man should be aware of his strength and just back off. I would expect a woman who is a body builder who is dating/married to a man who is not as strong as she is...to do the same.


Society is warped.

I just want to make it clear...that I was not, in any way defending Chris Brown's actions in my post. If you read the police report...well my mom read it out loud one day and it's awful. It's not like she slapped him and he slapped her back and that was the end of it. He beat the crap out of her and ugh. I didn't address it in what I wrote, the point of my post was just to address the fact that men are abused too and that it's not okay either way, and that people don't take it seriously when it happens. Hence the "body builder" analogy...if a woman who was significantly stronger than her boyfriend and/or spouse did what Chris Brown did to Rihanna, I would be just as disgusted. I can guarantee that most people would laugh at the poor guy. I just feel like this particular situation is an entirely different issue. I mean CB didn't have to throw her out of a car to defend himself (if she even attacked him), or he should have just thrown her out the car (at an incredibly slow speed), but he kept hitting her. Ugh.

I don't think that Miranda Lambert should draw more attention to him though. We should all just ignore him. He also needs to stop arguing with people on twitter. He deserves another chance because he clearly has issues, but if he actually wants to change, he needs to go to rehab or something for anger management and not go to the Grammys and just go away! To tell you the truth, I don't really care if he changes for his sake (because his music is terrible...) but I don't want him to beat up someone else.

edit: Just remembered that the Grammys already happened...haha my mom changed the channel in disgust when he was about to perform. The Grammys feel more like the Teen's Choice awards or something these days.
 
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I think, just let Breezy get on with his life, let his fans love him, who cares. Or just give him the death penalty. One or the other. Whats he supposed to do, Is he supposed to not make music and have fans?. If Rihanna really was 'beaten within inches of her life' then she's dumb for taking him back(which is apparently whats happening) And im sorry, but a woman suffering domestic abuse is way worse than a man suffering domestic abuse.
 
I think, just let Breezy get on with his life, let his fans love him, who cares. Or just give him the death penalty. One or the other. Whats he supposed to do, Is he supposed to not make music and have fans?

The American public is very forgiving and forgets easily; the fact that three years have past and he still hasn't earned the public's forgiveness is his own fault. When he continues to publicly do and say jack ass things that prove he hasn't (or simply doesn't care to) change, he has no one but himself to blame for the backlash. If he wasn't so prone to stupidity the media would have stopped "hating" on him a long time ago.
 
He's earned some of the publics forgiveness. He has a good couple million loyal fans(im not one of them) and thats all he needs. If he has 2 million that love him, and 10 million that hate him, then he still gonna be a famous millionaire thats loved, and theres nothing much he can do about it. And Rihanna seems to have forgiven him.
 
Andy Levy's Apology To Chris Brown - YouTube
Have any of you guys seen this before? I think it sums a lot of the Chris Brown stuff up perfectly.

I also think that it has a simple answer, of course no one should be hit, man, woman, child, animal.
This right here. He was so right.

Now regarding the Miranda thing I agree with her. I was raised that if a man hits you well Miranda's shot gun comment comes to mind. I don't think it is right for a man to hit a woman but in regards to the situation in the video should the woman on the game show have hit him? Probably not but I have seen some stuff where the men hit the women and I am like Oh my gosh. It is just something that you don't do.

Now about the Rhianna and Chris Brown thing I just don't get it. I don't get how the grammy's did just welcome him back like nothing happened. It is kind of like he was rewarded for his actions. I understand everyone deserves forgiveness but he beat her pretty bad. I just think his actions in the public haven't really shown him in good light and taking the steps to get help. Rhianna herself is the one doing these duets with him and forgiving. What can we do? Some people are outraged because they think it sends a bad message to young girls I agree but this is a tough subject and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
 
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