Mental Illness

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There's a programme running in the UK just now about Mental Illness. It's pretty interesting.

Guardian Article
BBC Horizon: How Mad Are You?

It involves 10 volunteers, 5 are 'normal', and the other 5 are officially diagnosed mentally ill. The psychologists have to try to figure out who is who, as the volunteers complete different challenges. Only, it's more subtle than Big Brother.

I wanted to know what you think about Mental Illness? The stigma attached to mental illness, and how it is handled today..
 
Well, I'm not sure that I like the premise of the show. I know the participants signed up of their own free will, but it seems out of line. I mean, can you imagine a similar show about cancer or AIDS or, heck, Diabetes? I'm pulling disease names out of thin air, here, but you get the point. I think that having a game show in which the point is to guess the identities of the mentally ill does more to stigmatize mental illness, not less -- especially by showing that the pros even get it wrong now and then, which could easily lead to the conclusion that mental illness is a bunch of bunk and make it even harder to the mentally ill to get the help that they need. I think it is in poor taste to make a game of other people's diseases.


My thoughts on mental illness are pretty jumbled up and confused right now. In days gone by, I thought only obvious mental disorders resulting in paranoia, delusions, and other absolutely nutso behavior were real. I thought subtler forms of mental illness, like Depression, were character flaws. I thought people could pull themselves out of Depression if they only tried harder and that they didn't deserve special accommodations. In fact, I was outraged when a friend of mine got into the same prestigious honor society even though she took Incompletes on a lot of her classes and then had extra time to make up the work at will. *I* did my work on time and made my deadlines. It didn't seem fair that she got extra time and yet still got the same reward. Only 1% of college graduates make it into this honor society, so it was a pretty big deal. I didn't understand why people got a pass for being sad and lazy.

I also didn't understand why or how I was supposed to have compassion for people like my Grandfather, who blew a hole into everyone's lives when he killed himself. I was angry and I felt entitled to that anger. Basically, I had a very narrow, very skeptical view of mental illness. It existed in a grey, shadowing world that I didn't understand and didn't want to understand. In my world, personal responsibility reigned supreme, and I thought people who blamed their failures on mental illnesses were taking the lazy/easy way out.

If this story is sounding predictable, that's because it is. After years of poo-pooing mental illness and privately accusing those on "Happy Pills" of Brave-New-Worlding it, mental illness hit *me* like a ton of bricks. And it wasn't the laziness, self-pity, or even sadness that I thought it was. Instead, it was like being under the influence of a sedative that gradually sapped away my intelligence, my concentration, my energy, my ability to move my limbs, etc. It got to the point at which I was shuffling across the street so slowly that on more than one occasion, others yelled at me to walk faster. I wasn't aware of my surroundings. I became sick and injured more frequently than in the past. I was in constant physical pain.I barely had enough energy to make it through the workday. It was so hard to complete any one task that I began to feel as though I had died and everyone had forgotten to tell me. My body felt like a corpse that I was dragging around only with extreme effort. My brain felt muddled and disconnected from the world. For me, Depression felt like being old and then, later, it felt like being dead.

My Depression was complicated by other factors, like my Cerebral Palsy and my PCOS, which led me down a strange and scary path of medical tests. Eventually, after ruling out a lot of other things, the doctors settled on Depression. Certain that I would lose my own self respect as well as that of my friends and family, I resisted that diagnosis. Recently, my mental and physical state reached extreme lows. I don't want to get into the details, but things had to get very bad before I finally caved and accepted my doctors' diagnosis and went on the medicine that she recommended. It's been about a month now, and the medicine is helping. I'm nowhere near 100%, but I feel more mentally present, am not in constant physical pain, and no longer get shouted at on the street. Those who know me best say I seem more like myself. My shrink, whom I have seen only once so far, says I'm lucky that the first medicine they tried is helping me so much without any side effects.

Basically, this whole experience has been an eye opener for me. I feel guilty for having judged others so harshly in the past and I feel anxious about what this means for my future. I wish mental illness was easier to diagnose and understand. I wish we could test chemical levels or something and make the diagnosis less subjective and more difficult to refute or dismiss. I wish the stigma of mental illness was not there. Beyond that, I'm not sure how I feel about mental illness in general. I'm not even sure exactly how I feel about my own mental illness. There's definitely still a large part of me that views this as my own fault. In the end, I really just wish mental illness didn't exist -- either to blow apart my own life or to provide entertainment for these Brits.

As someone who has been newly diagnoses with a mental illness and still feels rather ashamed and scared as a result, I've gotta say that the premise of that show holds absolutely no appeal for me. if any of those people are suffering to the extent that I was suffering, then I think it's rather wrong to exploit their diminished capacity for decision making and rational thought in order to put them on TV to derive entertainment from their pain.
 
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Again with the 'I agree with Palabra' - see a pattern?
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I adore all of your posts and admire your honesty*hugs*:)
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I've done some work with Scope.

OK, thats all kinds of disabilities mainly Cerebral Palsy, however the facts that I found out are absolutely appalling.

Did you know that a person with a mild form of mental illness (which can be dealt with through various medications) is not only obliged to tell prospective employers about this, they are also more likely to be declined a job.

In fact a person with a criminal record is 6 times more likely to get a job than anyone with a mental illness of any degree.

That disgusts me to be frank.

Its not that rehabilitated criminals shouldn't get a fair go, its that people who, through no fault of their own, have a harder time finding work.

Depression is also classed as a mental illness in the UK, FYI.

I haven't seen this show but I am sceptical of it.

It may have the best intentions BUT I bet dollars for doughnuts alot of people watch it to see if someone goes crazy - or at least they would if it was big.
 
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Note: The Cerebral Palsy is very mild. I'm lucky. You almost can't tell. That one could have been a whole lot worse.
I don't think the program is a gameshow, so much as a documentary type social experiment. That was the impression I got, although I didn't watch it. It's not so much "Guess the most crazies and win a prize", which I agree, would be disgusting, as "What is mental ilness, and how do psychologists diagnose it".

I may be wrong, however.
 
well i have just watched it and it is quite interesting... i think so far it probably breaks the mould that society has made for anyone that has had/having mental health issues. But, there will always be people that are scared of those words and people that open up that they have had/having mental health issues will always unfortunately have to tollerate those people.

Me, I have been on both sides of the coin. I have spent 2 years studying as a Mental Health Nurse back in the 90's. Since i was 13 I knew i had problems and suffered from severe depression off and on from 13 upwards. being young with depression was tuff as people presumed i was just being a difficult teenager and dismissed my cries for help. This forced me to hide from others and myself. I used to lock up my emotions and only vent in private.

This pattern continued into adulthood. From 18 I found what they call today as "self medication" basically drugs and alcohol. Funny enough self medicating did not improve my situation but made my mind worse, more paranoia, self doubt, depression, confusion followed by hyper elation and a big feel good factor when i felt the depression had lifted.

Although the feel good factor came with its own bundle of issues such as; lack of awareness of dangerous situations, extreme irritability of situations and people, lack of sleep to the extreme and huge shopping sprees with no real finance to back it up. Eventually earlier this year i went back into the system that i had been in and out of since i was 20 (diagnosed with PTSD after a bad experience) and for a change i was honest with the doctors about everything that goes through my head and the speeds inwhich those thoughts travel. I was diagnosed with Rapid Cycling BiPolar Disorder with Mixed States. Nice!

I am now in therapy and on official medication and feel much better than i did. I have the ability to slow my thoughts a bit now and recognise the early signs of the depressions and the highs.

There is hope if you can relate to anything anyone has confessed in this thread. You just need the correct diagnosis and help. Support is essential. I supose i have spilled my private life here in the hope that i might be able to help someone else feel less alone. I think that everyone suffers with a mental health problem at some point in their lives, its how they cope that is important.

Please remember if you are reading my post or anyone else that opens up in here, we are people on the other end of your net connection and we do have emotions and some people may be opening up their vunerable side by being honest in this thread.
 
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Being someone who has been diagnosed with 3 different mental disorders so far in my life (and im just turning 22!) I can say ive lived the stigma. But the interesting thing was, i got less opposition and misunderstanding from friends and more from my parents, who i think were just in denial about most of it.

For anyone curious, i was diagnosed with general anxiety disorder and clinical depression at age 16 (when i was finally dragged to a psychologist but i know i was suffering from age 13) and then anorexia at age 18. And i self-injured for 7+ years.

As of right now, things are under control but never gone, and i think right now thats the hardest thing to speak with people about, that especially for the eating disorder, iam not CURED, i have just learned ways to control it.
 
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Sounds a bit like like BPD ...
Did anyone catch the last part of this programe? I did and i thought it was very interesting they could not 100% say who had BiPolar Disorder. 😀 So perhaps we don't stand out of the crowd too much all the time 🙂
 
I'm not sure what I thought about mental illness before I had one.
I had a breakdown almost exactly a year after my daughter was born. I'd had some Post partum depression with my son, but with all the stuff that went on during the year after my daughter was born (finding out my son couldn't hear right and going from doctor to doctor to get him diagnosed and into a special school to help him) it snuck up on me.
About two weeks after my son's ears were fixed I spiraled into insaneville.
I was convinced that hubby would come home today and the kids would either be in a pile at the bottom of the steps where I forgot to shut the door, or I'd just be rocking back and forth in the corner while the kids went mad. I could even picture how the house would look, fridge open, cabinets open and stuff spilling out where the kids just went insane.

I was also on some weird sort of birth control shot that has a side effect of psychosis.
I feel LUCKY that somehow with the post partum AND the weird side effects from the shot that I hadn't killed anyone.
But, I can see CLEARLY how it could happen to others. Because I don't think I was in control of much of anything at all.
By the time I started to sober up through therapy and LOTS of pills and getting off the shot, I suddenly felt HORRIBLY bad for judging people who had mental illness.

It's easy to say you "understand" but also feel like they should be able to "pull themselves out of it" or "make better choices". I had some friends with Bi-Polar before that I just wanted to SLAP because they were totally sane one minute and the next making the worst choices EVER possible.
But, I slowly realized that they weren't in anymore control over what they did than I had been.
It's like constantly being VERY drunk, almost to the point of a black out, but not drinking. It was VERY scary!

In fact, someone MORE sane than me would have drank just to get away from the feeling. I'm sure of it. I just don't drink liquor and I never felt good enough to drink enough beer to do it. Although, I do think, that had I not gotten the appointment for when I did, I WOULD have started self medicating and probably gotten MUCH worse.

Now that I understand part of it, it's MUCH easier to be understanding. Especially, since I was lucky enough to just have a mild, very curable case of depression or hormone induced insanity.
I can't even IMAGINE something that was less fixable. It's terrifying to me to think of anyone having to live through that hell.
 
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So great that you can admit that. More people should read things like this. So many people are misinformed.
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