Moments of True Happiness?

Kean

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It is long established that Angel's moment of true happiness is being openly loved and accepted by the women he loves and who also just happens to be the one person in the world who was born to hate him. That acceptance and how it allows him to hope again is what truly gets Angel where he lives. Not the sex.

I've been wondering though, what if the other characters had been turned and then cursed. What would be their triggers?

So, what do you think would be Buffy's, Willow's etc etc moment of true happiness?
 
As for Buffy, I would feel quite safe in saying that her one moment of true happiness, though it obviously lasted more than a mere moment, was the time that she spent in heaven.

For Willow, when Tara said, "Can you just be kissing me now?"

For Giles, when he read the note, supposedly from Jenny, that said, simply "Upstairs."

For Joyce, when Buffy came home at the beginning of Season 3.

For Xander, I have no clue. I seriously doubt that he's experienced it yet.

And, undoubtedly, for Spike, his one true moment of happiness was when he realized that it wasn't the Buffy-bot at the head of the stairs.

As far as Dawn goes, she doesn't deserve one.
 
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I can see it.. esp. early Buffy.
 
Kean
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caitaintdead
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No no. I think you mean Cait's moment of happiness!
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Seeing Harmony dusted with one of those heels would give *me* a happy.
I think Buffy's moment of true happiness would have been a 'I will remember you' kind of deal, but instead of going from vampire to human she would go from Slayer to normal girl. At least in the earlier seasons, she was rather obsessed with being able to just be a regular girl 🙂

Like if at the end of Chosen she could just stop being a Slayer and go on living a normal life
 
I think Buffy's moment of true happiness was in IWRY when she told Angel that she finally felt like she always wanted to: a normal girl falling asleep in the arms of her normal boyfriend. In fact, she even calls it perfect.

For Giles, when he read the note, supposedly from Jenny, that said, simply "Upstairs."

I don't know if I can buy that. It just doesn't sit right in my mind.

For Joyce, when Buffy came home at the beginning of Season 3.

I feel this was more a moment of pure relief than anything else.

To me true happiness is when all other emotions fall away and you are just left with this utter contentment.

I don't think Joyce was capable of feeling that upon seeing Buffy. I'd imagine she was still worried out of her mind about her and what had happened. Not to mention angry.

It's interesting that we have all answered by defining a characters happiness by their relationship with another.

I wonder, is this how we operate in our own lives too?
 
It's interesting that we have all answered by defining a characters happiness by their relationship with another.

I wonder, is this how we operate in our own lives too?

I've never really thought that much about it, but, yes, I do believe that happiness, in order to be as nearly perfect as is possible, would have to be shared with another. I'm a firm believer in the old adage that happiness shared is multiplied while grief shared is divided. At least in my own life, the moments of greatest happiness have been those that I have shared with others. I think that that's the primary reason that we come together with our friends and family to celebrate joyful occasions.
 
I wonder, is this how we operate in our own lives too?
No. Others do not affect my happiness; they can have an effect on my well-being, though.
(despite the hotel convo we had! thats not for happiness but company..)
 
I've never really thought that much about it, but, yes, I do believe that happiness, in order to be as nearly perfect as is possible, would have to be shared with another. I'm a firm believer in the old adage that happiness shared is multiplied while grief shared is divided. At least in my own life, the moments of greatest happiness have been those that I have shared with others. I think that that's the primary reason that we come together with our friends and family to celebrate joyful occasions.

I agree, the more I think about it the more it makes sense. The happiest moments in my life are all moments that I have been surrounded by friends or family. While I do not need other people to be happy, my greatest happiness is when I am with others.
 
My happiest moments are when I save alot of money buying something, or when I get a really big commission check. Happiest moments are usually money related. How sad.
 
And, undoubtedly, for Spike, his one true moment of happiness was when he realized that it wasn't the Buffy-bot at the head of the stairs.

Hmmm...I would agree, but the night Spike just held Buffy and watched her sleep (the best night of his life as he said) keeps coming to my mind too.
 
As for Buffy, I would feel quite safe in saying that her one moment of true happiness, though it obviously lasted more than a mere moment, was the time that she spent in heaven.

I totally agree with this! She was so out of whack for entire first what? 6 episodes of s6 about being extracted from heaven.

For Willow, when Tara said, "Can you just be kissing me now?"

This a million times! Oh and when they sleep together right before Tara dies 🙁


Hmmm...I would agree, but the night Spike just held Buffy and watched her sleep (the best night of his life as he said) keeps coming to my mind too.

I thought about this too. I totally agree with ya here girl
 
And, undoubtedly, for Spike, his one true moment of happiness was when he realized that it wasn't the Buffy-bot at the head of the stairs.

But Spike has mentioned that the best night of his life was when he was holding Buffy and watch her sleep (s7), so I'd call it his happiest moment. That's all he wants, all that makes him happy. Buffy.
 
Regarding my comment about Spike's one moment of true happiness," I have to agree that their night together in "Touched" would qualify just as much as seeing Buffy back from the dead and still very much human, as would, arguably, the moment when Buffy placed the amulet in his hand and called him her Champion, or either of the next two nights that she spent sharing his bed to the certain knowledge of Spike, Xander, Wood, and everybody else in the house (and to hell with them if they didn't like it, that scene when Buffy, at the top of those stairs, and Spike, at the bottom, first see each other, Spike's realization that it really IS her, and not a machine, and that whispered."...what have you done...?" just grabs me every time that I see it. So I will qualify my choice by calling that scene Spike's "first" moment of complete happiness. Ever.
 
It's an interesting question because I don't think what defines one's happiness is a static thing.

For instance, Angel first moment of true happiness occured when he was with Buffy, however the second time it was with Cordy and when his team was working together and his son finally understood what it meant to be a champion.

This is also means that there necessarily one moment that defines our happiness in our lives.

In Buffy's case, the moment in IWRY may have been the happiest but then As WA said being in heaven would have also been a moment of true happiness and then some, although it depends on whether we are dealing with the curse here and how define the soul. If we define the soul as the spirit then Buffy's stint in heaven wouldn't count.

About Spike seeing Buffy alive? It would literally have to be the moment he realised because after that confusion and pain followed. He tries to care for but the others get in the way and realising what they did to bring her back also hurt him in two ways. One realising there are always consequences for such things and two that he is still an outsider as far as the Scoobies are concerned.
 
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