Most Underrated Episode?

BTVS: Showtime is fantastic imo, and I feel like nobody talks about it. There are some of the best Spuffy moments of the series but even if you don't like that you get probably the best Potential involved storyline besides Chosen, and one of the best fights in the series for the last few minutes.

Angel: The Ring is so good not only for introducing Lilah but in terms of Angel's character, Wesley and Corey's friendship, and raising the question of what is crossing the line when it comes to demons. Plus that would be pretty entertaining to watch in real life.
 
AnthonyCordova
AnthonyCordova
I love the Ring
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Showtime is great
Professor Walsh
Professor Walsh
I like "Showtime".
Buffy: Ted

Angel: Why We Fight

Two brilliant episodes that people seems to really dislike or not talk about.
 
Professor Walsh
Professor Walsh
I hate Ted so much. The robot, not the episode.
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Ted is a good ep
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
I despise Why We Fight. I've so much contempt for that episode. Just utter contempt. That would be the one episode I would say burn and never speak of again. Loathe it.
GwenRaiden
GwenRaiden
Mr. Pole. You are so dramatic! It just makes me want to set myself on fire!
BtVS: Beer Bad (I love this episode. It's hilarious. Idk why it gets so much episode.)

AtS: I don't remember it distinctly enough to give a good answer. Will start my rewatch as soon as I finish Jessica Jones
 
@Mr. Pole why do you have such contempt for it? Is it the submarine adventures? Nazi-Spike? Prince of Lies? Lawson?
 
@Mr. Pole why do you have such contempt for it? Is it the submarine adventures? Nazi-Spike? Prince of Lies? Lawson?
Yes, pretty much those reasons and more. It sorta retcons their (Spike & Angels') first meeting in School Hard, doesn't it? But yeah, it was a total throw away episode that really had no stakes. It just felt really like a retread of other shows; it didn't feel like Angel to me. There was no tension. Didn't care about Lawson. Nothing in the past, other than Lawson, had any kind of impact on the present. There was no real point to the episode (at least as far as I can recall). I think it was the worst episode of the season by far. And the Spike crap just bloated the episode. All he was was filler. The had the actor, were paying him, so they thought 'we gotta use him' and cooked up that storyline. I mean, where the hell was Dru? He just leave her at home when he joined the Nazis? Weren't they still hanging around together at that time?
 
He didn`t join the Nazi`s, he was captured by the Nazi`s. Dru was just smarter and got away.

I agree with you though, that Spike was a filler and also his hair was awful. Still, Why We Fight has depth, but it is buried under those stupid Nazi jokes.

I really like the Episode. I would have liked it even better, if Spike hadn`t worn that SS-jacket.

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Well, since I actually have AtS 5, perhaps I should re-watch that ep. (I've watched AtS season 1 and 5, ought to fill in the middle at some point). When watching the season, I do think I did like "Why We Fight". It may have to do with the WW2 setting, though, which easily sucks me in.
 
Skanky Vamp
Skanky Vamp
You got the suck part right
BtVS: Beer Bad (I love this episode. It's hilarious. Idk why it gets so much episode.)

AtS: I don't remember it distinctly enough to give a good answer. Will start my rewatch as soon as I finish Jessica Jones

And that was supposed to say "hate" not "episode." lol
I was very tired when posting this.
 
Ok apparently I love a lot of underrated episode of Btvs but I guess I just enjoy all the episodes in a way:

Btvs: Ted (Ted bundy anyone?), Lie to me, IOHEFY, Showtime, Lies my parents told me, The Zeppo and probably many more

On Angel I am not as aware of the popularity of the episodes but I do enjoy Guise will be guise and Carpe Noctem because they are hilarious!
 
"Earshot" from season 3. It was a brilliant premis deftly done with emotion, nuance and humor. One of the most perfect episodes. I particluarly like it when Joyce is shown waking up next to Buffy's bed when Buffy starts to be hurt from hearing everyone's thoughts. I never really liked Joyce when I first saw the series, thinking her to be the typical clueless parent. Though she really isn't. She is in a really tough position not only being the single-parent of a teenager but The Slayer to boot. She really does the best she can.
 
Grace
Grace
I'm a big fan of Earshot, too!
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BTVS :
Reptile Boy (Really!! , I just love that episode it has great scenes), The Replacement, Ted, Never Kill A Boy... , Beer Bad, Gone, Help, Him.
ATS :
Untouched, The Old Gang Of Mine, Benediction, Unleashed, The Thin Dead Line, Soul Purpose.
 
Killed by Death

side note: I can't function under a 3 pic per post restriction

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A lot of fans think the Normal Again reveal was a horrible retcon but I think it fits well what was shown in the early seasons. In this episode Buffy was fine being in a hospital, a little whimsical from medication, but when they tell her she has to spend the night as a patient, that she isn't allowed to leave, she freaks out and has to be held down & sedated. "The vampires! I have to kill the vampires! They're out there. Giles, tell them." She begs her mom, "I want to go home. Please don't make me stay here." Seeing her get injected while trying to get away is a lot like her first hallucination in NA. It would've been nice continuity if they had the same doctor. At least the doctor is black in both.

In the prequel Slayer Interrupted there was a demon preying on patients in the psych ward when Buffy was there and she had to kill it. She really does have good reason to hate hospitals.

There is something about Buffy wearing a cross necklace in a hospital. In s7 Holden told her one of the theories her peers had was that she was super religious.

I like the wheelchair & pink blanket. It showed how serious it was. This wasn't the fever from school. She even asked "Is it the same thing the kids have?" She tells Ryan "I've already got what you've got." And when she fights dar kindestod she puns "You make me sick." Even then her Slayer immune system healed her so fast she had to dose herself with the virus so she could see him.

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Look how these scenes between Buffy (8 in '89) & Buffy (17 in '98) are paralleled. In both her hair is down, her dress is the same length, her shoes/socks are white. It is a full body shot from behind, then the front is closer and closer and closer. Corridors are so creepy, a liminal space.

Someone mentioned that this was originally going to be a s1 episode. There is a s1 ep of Supernatural called Something Wicked that parallels Killed by Death. In it a creature targets children causing an epidemic, Dean remembers that when he was 10 it tried to kill his brother. He gets the chance to kill the creature and save more kids. In that one it was the doctor but here that was a red herring.

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When Buffy was 8 she cosplayed as a cape wearing superhero. In s7 she says "It's about power, who's got it, and who knows how to use it" & "I use the power that I have." She saw herself as Power Girl to save people and not to feel better than others. She has never been power hungry. It's always been about altruism and responsibility. She's a Gryffinpuff.

It's heartbreaking that the play acting had Celia calling out to Buffy "Help! Help me!" and her murder she's screaming for Buffy to help her.

Do you think when Buffy was 15 and tried to tell her parents about the paranormal they tied it to her trauma 7 years earlier in seeing her cousin die screaming in delirium?

I like the parallel between Celia in the past and Buffy in the present. Sleeping in a hospital bed, being attacked by dar kindestod. Some think Buffy shouldn't of killed him so easily but he was a child predator, attacked the defenseless. Just like with Dean, it was an easy kill, a snap of the neck v gunshots.
 
A continuation

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I love how the shot with Ryan in her doorway is copied with the shot of Dar kindestod. I wanted about 20 times more Buffy prophetic dreams.

The little girl should've had red hair so those two could've been like kid versions of Xander & Willow.

I have no issue with Xander on the bed next to Buffy, he'd been like that with Willow since elementary. He shouldn't have to stop because he was dating Cordelia. His friends were girls, had always been girls, and would always be girls. He joked in the comics "I've got all my sisters with me."

Buffy looks so good in hospital clothes, I can't even. This and in Graduation Day & Normal Again.

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I think the demon was interesting enough. Those white eyes. The all black outfit with the hat. Of course the eyes dislodging like a flesh eating plant. He fed on life essence. It reminds me of Amy saying about her mom, "She said I was wasting my youth, so she took it."

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"Not feeling well, lover?" As much as I love Xander standing up to Angelus to protect Buffy, I would've preferred to see that scene of Angelus walking into Buffy's hospital room with flowers. We needed more moments that were really personal. An evil soulless demon was wearing her boyfriend & lover's body.

I also wanted to see what Angelus had planned to do to Buffy on Valentine's Day but that was averted by Xander too. Xander got in the way of Bangelus.

Buffy upped her patrols after Jenny's murder. "I'm still the Slayer and as long as I am Angelus is not going to hurt anyone else." They talk about it in IOHEFY & Becoming as well.
 
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